Now that the epochal train trip is behind us, wasn’t Barack Obama’s second coming to Washington just a little bit odd? Meant to encourage even more strained comparisons to Abraham Lincoln, there is a big difference.
Lincoln took the train from Illinois to Washington for his first inaugural because that’s what people did when they needed to make such a long trip. He had to take the train. It wasn’t for show.
If Lincoln had done what Obama did — embrace the memory of past presidents by emulating their mode of transportation — Old Abe would have already been in Washington, but then boarded a train to Philadelphia, returning on a horse.
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You’ve got that right, Craig. And, in the Wilson Quarterly that just arrived, there’s a piece on how a letter from Lincoln to Obama would read.
So many things to read, so little time and such bad eyes.
I just can’t imagine Mr Obama crossing the Delaware on a frightfully cold winter’s day.
i spose it’s kind of glam to entrain for the big party, but I’ll really be worried when he dons his flight suit to be flown onto an aircraft carrier which he’s caused to go round in circles off the coast, crew and nation anxiously awaiting his glorious arrival……..
ROFL sturge and Flatus.
General Washington to his coxswain, “Go with the floe!”
Craig. I entirely agree with this post.
I’m worn-out, trained-out, Bibled-out, Second-Inauguraled-out and altogether-Lincoln-comparisoned-out. Even Lincoln didn’t know he was Lincoln yet when he became president. For all we knew he was trying to imitate Washington.
Let’s just get on with the Inauguration, which is historic in its own right, and take the rest one step at a time.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/16/opinion/polls/main4728399.shtml
“Bush’s Final Approval Rating: 22 Percent
CBS News/N.Y. Times Poll Finds President Will Leave Office With Lowest Final Approval Rating Ever
Mr. Bush’s final approval rating is the lowest final rating for an outgoing president since Gallup began asking about presidential approval more than 70 years ago”
Yesterday I opined that I would enjoy a conversation with Sen Feinstein held over a Scrabble board. I spent the rest of the day looking at the parade of politicians on c-span. I didn’t see another that I thought I could have an interesting, collaborative discussion on how to solve the world’s problems.
So, it will just be Feinstein, Stinky, and me.
Oh, the situation with North Korea is once again becoming ominous.
“Even Lincoln didn’t know he was Lincoln yet when he became president. For all we knew he was trying to imitate Washington.”
Well said, Lard, very well said.
It’s a lovely day in Harpers Ferry. Okay it is cloudy and a little chilly but at least we made this far. There was extra security at the DSM airport. I wonder if other airports were doing the same thing.
Off to the concert this afternoon and a reception with fellow Iowans tonight. Later.
Yes, indeed, Lard. Lordy, Lordy.
Hope you have a fantastic time, Zoey!
all aboard just one more time for train trivia:
“The last president-elect who took an inaugural train trip to Washington is Dwight D. Eisenhower. On Jan. 18, 1953, Eisenhower, accompanied by his family and staffers, boarded a five-car special train for the journey from New York’s Pennsylvania Station to Washington….
The first president-elect to ride a passenger train to an inauguration was William Henry Harrison in 1841. He was also the first presidential candidate to campaign by train.
In 1845, president-elect James K. Polk also traveled to Washington for inauguration by train. On March 3, 1913, Woodrow Wilson boarded a 14-car special train in Princeton, N.J., that would carry him to his swearing-in. As the train pulled out of the station, Wilson stood on the observation platform of the last car, waving to the crowd.
After Eisenhower, all president-elect chose air travel for inauguration.”
http://english.sina.com/world/2009/0117/212383.html
LL, Thanks for sharing your insightful perspective.
Air travel is out. if auto executives can’t fly to Washington, no one else should either.
a first, no doubt.
Whoa — have you seen Rush Limbaugh’s picture on the front of Pllitico? He looks so puffed up he might explode. (Hope springs eternal…)
http://www.politico.com/
Congratulations to Chloe for joining the ranks of grandmothers with the newest arrival of “the world’s most beautiful baby”.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/big-money-for-a-big-inaugural.html#comment-190544
Patsi -- morning quibble it was Teddy Roosevelt
Craig -- I agree about over run on all the “great man” and Lincoln comparisons. One thought in his favor, the modern Presidency is so walled off and untouchable from the public that at least this train trip allowed for more people to see and touch. His only real guarantee of success is finding a way to step outside the bubble of the powerful and attempt to stay in touch with the street. Maybe this was a down payment on that idea.
Patsi,
Did you read that Delay quote, “DeLay: Why not “a nice little chicken dinner”? ” What would he suggest for dessert: Watermelon?
cary grant also blows the bugle and yells “charge” in frustration and runs up the stairs……it brings teddy brewster, who thinks he is teddy roosevelt, out of his room……..
lol
Let’s prosecute Pelosi for gross ineffectiveness.
I’m looking forward to Alexander’s poem. Still love Maya Angelou’s, “On the Pulse of Morning” from the Clinton inaugural
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDtw62Ah2zY
“He looks so puffed up…”
patsi, like that old expression puffed up like a poisoned pup?
Mortimer Brewster: Look, Aunt Martha, men don’t just get into window seats and die!
Abby Brewster: We know, dear. He died first.
Mortimer Brewster: Wait a minute! Stop all this. Now, look, darling, how did he die?
Abby Brewster: Oh, Mortimer, don’t be so inquisitive. The gentleman died because he drank some wine with poison in it.
Mortimer Brewster: How did the poison get in the wine?
Martha Brewster: Well, we put it in wine, because it’s less noticeable. When it’s in tea, it has a distinct odor.
Mortimer Brewster: You mean, you… You put it in the wine!
Abby Brewster: Yes. And I put Mr. Hoskins in the window seat, because Reverend Harper was coming.
Mortimer Brewster: Now, look at me, darling. You mean, you mean you knew what you’d done and you didn’t want the Reverend Harper to see the body?
Abby Brewster: Well, not at tea. That wouldn’t have been very nice.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/straining-to-train-with-lincol.html#comment-190575
still bitter, huh Flatus?
Chloe…. Congrats!…. enjoy that baby!
Lardass….. ROFL!…. I watched the train for a little bit…. thank god it’s Sunday and playoff football is still on….
I am looking forward to Tuesday…. then the real work begins…..
here’s to hoping that Obama proves to be up to the task…..
OMG…. Patsi…. Rush does look like he’s about to explode…. KABOOM!
Renee
It would take more than KABOOM to clean up all that oily ooze.
Have you folks seen the Corrigon Brothers
O’Bama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xkw8ip43Vk
Here’s the cartoon version -- Truly cute
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HplZ_taHXLM
Solar,
It isn’t that we aren’t sympathetic to those innocents killed. For me it is a deep anger that it is so unnecessary. Hamas and terrorists like them use their own people for political ends leading to their injuries and death. Yes the instrument Hamas uses is provoking Israel to defend itself so that they can blame Israel in propaganda, but it is the terrorists who are the cause.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/straining-to-train-with-lincol.html#comment-190583
“It would take more than KABOOM to clean up all that oily ooze.”
Ha Ha-So true Jamie,I use KABOOM daily on the job and I love it but cleanup after a Rush explosion, nothing short of a nuclear explosion could do that…………..
“Patsi -- morning quibble it was Teddy Roosevelt ”
Don’t know who this one is for….maybe patd?
I feel that Hamas are no good M-- Fer’s,,,and that all the Palestinian peoplewant is to have their land and homes back—-they have been there for almost 2 thousand years,,,as apposed to 100 years or so,,,,,,that the Israel’s have,,,,we are killing kids (this is y biggest bitch) with white phosphorus,,,a chemical that eats the flesh to the bone,,,,,,not once have I seen an empathy for them,,,,,they don’t have the US (the Palestinians)giving them 5 bill, so they kinda have to use some propaganda in order t o catch the worlds attention,,,,,what would you do,,if those were your kids?,,,,the same thing!!!! —it is the tone,,,,fuck em!!!
Last word—-I use bulldozers to clean up work sites before I start to build a house,,,,,,I wonder how many more bodies will be found by them—-700--to 1000 more ?? figure out a way how to get Hamas with that 5 bill,,,and stop killing babies.
Patsi,
You’re right. It was Patd. They were discussing Arsenic and Old Lace and she had said the charging character was Grant rather than Roosevelt., but I was so asleep when I wrote it that I didn’t realize she was talking about Carey Grant not Ulysses.
“Stop using babies as human shields and I suspect far less of them would be killed. ”
Jamie—-read this over,,,and over,,,, and tell me,,,,what in here shows any sadness for babies, that are being killed,,,,read it again before you defend it,,,,,maybe he could have said,,,,,,while I also feel a sadness for those innocents killed,,,,I wish that they wouldn’t use them as shields,,,and a lot less of them would be killed,,,,,this would have been a statement from some one with a little sympathy no????
Solar,
They shouldn’t have left those homes in the first place. If you don’t someone to move into your house don’t abandon it. They were asked to stay and many did, but the surrounding countries were using them as propaganda tools and weapons even then. When they were locked out of the homes they left, the countries that wanted to attack Israel refused to give them new ones and made sure they stayed in those camps so pictures could be displayed to the world.
Finally Egypt has reached an agreement with Israel. It now looks as if Syria is about to try to do the same. Jordan is pretty stable. Now if Iran will just stop stirring the pot, maybe peace has a chance one more time. But take note: It will NOT be Israel that fires first if peace is broken.
Solar,
It wasn’t cold. It was a statement of fact. Hamas placed their weapons where that child lived. It was a cold hearted, manipulative act designed to use a deceased child as an image.
On top of that, there is no proof that it was a picture of a current event or even that it was the result of Israeli’s using the phosphorus. Placing blame before facts are known is using emotion rather than sense. It simply wouldn’t be the first time by a long shot that Hamas or Hezbollah had killed their own people in an attempt to blame Israel.
I will reserve judgement until the facts are known.
” …………….. wasn’t Barack Obama’s second coming to Washington just a little bit odd? ”
Only if one considers flying into Washington on the Eron jet “normal”.
Solar,
Here is the Red Cross report on the White Phosphorus. As you can read, who is using it and where is still open to question.
http://features.csmonitor.com/globalnews/2009/01/14/red-cross-no-evidence-israel-is-using-white-phosphorus-illegally/
Jamie
That completely surprises me, not one word for those children,,now I know that there are Compassionate Liberals,,,,just as there are Compassionate Republlicans,in the sense that they call themselves compassionate, just words,,not one word for the past, or present, or future babies killed,,,,,,,so if it is proven that white phosphorous did what it intended to do,,,,,,you would show some sympathy, I hope that it is proven that no one--especially babies died that kind of death,,,,a bullet or being crushed by concrete is a much better way to die,,,I guess,,,
Solar,
You are missing the whole point. Because I do feel for those innocents on both sides, I want the grown ups to stop killing them. The only way for that to happen is for the terrorists to stop trying to destroy Israel.
Could it be that you have so little sympathy for teenagers out dancing in a club that end up with pieces of their bodies strewn across a city street that you don’t mind it happening because the Palestinians want their houses back?
Thought for the day :
” No really great man every thought himself so. “
Chole
))))
I arrived here at (your daughters-- and your house) a little late but I finished just in time,,,after you turned on the lights,and you saw all the balloons, streamers, and a big pinata,,,for Emma to break,that says WELCOME HOME,,,open me in 6-8 years,,,what is inside will last,,,,,they are all the good wishes for her,,,,,I didn’t say too much about her yesterday so --hope this makes up for it,
Another person in the news business I find very credible is Amy Goodman
Palestinian Astrophysicist in US Recounts How His 11-Year-Old Son Died When Israeli Warplanes Bombed His Familys House
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/1/16/palestinian_father_in_us_recounts_how
“I do feel for those innocents on both sides, I want the grown ups to stop killing them.”
You could have stopped there, and not accuse me of not caring about dancing teenagers,,,,they are just as precious as the other babies. thanks for the talk though I feel a little better now that I have said what I had to say,,,,
Solar,
You accused us of not caring. It doesn’t feel good when the shoe is on the other foot does it?
Hamas agrees to cease fire. Israel immediately starts withdrawing troops
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20090117/ML.Israel.Palestinians/
Did too, did not, you did it first, no you did, did not…
Grow -Up
Here’s yer Atta what ever.
KGC
Thanks for that link —Amy Goodwin is a real reporter,,,,,I feel for that father in that story,,,,just like I feel for the father that lost a loved one from the Hamas bombs,,,,,,,,,,,,,I wish that the 5 bill could be paid to Palestinians (assassins) to wipe out Hamas,,,the ones willing to stand up to them,,,,,create some kind of plan to liberate from within,,,a start up of an other party??I don’t know,,,,but thanks for that Humanizing Goodwin article.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/straining-to-train-with-lincol.html#comment-190613
More gas on the fire -
Israel gas companies’ stocks soar on offshore finds
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/251223,israel-gas-companies-stocks-soar-on-offshore-finds.html
Show— me one word of caring,,,just say I feel for them,,,,don’t add anything to it,,,I did not feel bad when you said that I don’t care for those teenagers,was a little silly to me,,just a little surprised —-thats all.
Just one word and I’ll give you an atta girl,,,,,,,,so many passed out now so freely, that it means ????
Colorado Bob,
Back ach ya-have a good one
More running on empty -
Tokyo -- Toyota Motor Corp plans to halve its domestic production between February and April amid global sales declines, Japanese media reports said Saturday.
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/251044,toyoa-to-halve-domestic-production.html
Oh Solar, won’t you ever realize they hate us because we are free?
Congratulations to Grandma Chloe….am looking forward to hearing more about this fabulous little girl!
Chloe -
Me too.
Craig.. A+ for today…
How prophetic can one try to be? or one tries to place their feet in prophetic foot steps… so is that pathetic?
Glad to see all is getting back on track
Barack Obama’s second coming to Washington if this is a second coming to which first are you referring?
“Oh Solar, won’t you ever realize they hate us because we are free?”
Champ—I don’t think that at all,,,,I think that it might just be the Winning,side,,and Im right ,,,,that counts here,,,,I don’t know,,,,but hate is not what I want to say it is,,
Champ,,,,I hope that some of that goes after the inauguration,,,,he won,,,,and the feeling i get is that some are still fighting,,,,going to be a big rush for them,,,,for the next few day’s and then lets see what happens
as far as being free,,,,its great isn’t it,,,,,,
Yeah, I haven’t seen a lick of inauguration coverage on the boob-tube, so I’m not really wrapped-up in inauguration fever. Some of my friends are, however, and it’s pretty nauseating. Like I said, I’ll believe it (change?) when I see it
“[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system.”
George W.Bush
Champ
The change I believe is going to surprise some of people that expect miricales,,,the ones that expect his to fulfill just a cple of his promises are more in line with the way things are,,,,no $ to do it all,,,,,I will settle for an economy fix,,,,,the rest can come later,,,,,nothing can be done until that happens,,,,,,but he is not going to look like the miracle maker,,,,just like another President,,,a good one,, a bad one ,,, a mediocre one???? don’t know,,,,but Im wishing for a great one,,,,,for all our sakes?? I do think that the Independent number of voters will grow,,, either way
“….one tries to place their feet in prophetic foot steps… so is that pathetic?”
ping, no, but how about peripatetic?
Hey Chloe
this is for you…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMAXuZOw_DY
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/straining-to-train-with-lincol.html#comment-190632
cbob, when did we leave? oh yeah, somewhere around november of 2000.
Here’s change I can believe in, for starters:
Criminal Justice Reform
Tax Code Reform
Election Reform
Restoration of all Civil Liberties lost under GWB
I’ll start holding my breath… NOW!
Good list—--and don’t forget lobbyist reform—tax reform absolutely ,,,,there should be no corp. tax shelters for them out side of the U S,,,,and a flat and sales tax,,,should make things a little more transparent ,,,,too much tax $ not accounted for?? thanks Champ—later
watching the lincoln memorial concert — oh well, the national anthem is a tough song, poor guy screwed it up
things not to do when bordering on boredom:
1. google gordo’s favorite name for bho.
there must be hundreds of little gordo’s out there in google land… gordettes? gordolitos? solar, dooty, help me out with the correct spanish term.
if we had only listened to Ben Franklin our national anthem coulda been “Turkey in the Straw”…………
gorditas—or gorditos
i know springsteen is old, but was Lincoln a fan?
i see a lot of burberry scarves
michele does look fabulous, cool outfit
not crazy about the lighting on Abe, but it does shade the moles on HD
nothing like Mary Blige flanked by submachine guns
ok, Steve Carell quoting Thomas Jefferson is way more than i can take, im outta here
Nothing like having the coverage on HBO with the networks and news channels embargoed until prime time. I understand HBO is a free broadcast, but they didn’t advertise that very well.
In case anyone cares to join in tomorrows day of service :
Find An Event
http://www.usaservice.org/page/content/eventsearch
hope that podium is heated. hanks is going to be colder than abe’s statue if not by the time this is over.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/straining-to-train-with-lincol.html#comment-190580
Never was bitter, Doots. Angry as the dickens at how the Democratic Party’s formally adopted process was subverted. But, not bitter.
All of which has nothing to do with Ms Pelosi.
wow, a new biden! brief, succinct and to the point. now that’s change.
My son just phoned from the concert. He said it’s freezing cold, but very cool.
Scrabble-tile keyboard
http://boingboing.hexten.net/2009/01/17/scrabbletile-keyboar.html
We have already printed the cover and book jacket for the Obama Inaugural picture book. It is funny to read the blurb on the book jacket describing an event that hasn’t happened yet.
“Scrabble-tile keyboard”
That is simply too cool!
My son said the jumbotrons are great — he said even in that mega-crowd, it was almost like having a front row seat — said Obama was singing along with Garth on American Pie. (not on stage, of course….from his seat)
I was taken aback a bit by this quote from the CQ article on the event:
“The Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. spoke”
More royalties for Don McClain, the song that just keeps on giving: American Pie.
I was taken aback a bit by this quote from the CQ article on the event:
“The Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. spoke”
It’s a new era, anything is possible.
Party, Party,
Some of our men and women are dying in Iraq and other parts of the world.
maybe they could re-show that video of bush in the white house looking under cushions for the WMD’s…….that might make all the sojers feel better……….
and maybe the sojers are looking forward to maybe coming home as a result of the party……
it COULD happen…………
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/straining-to-train-with-lincol.html#comment-190640
Patd,
Solar being from Mexico originally is more of an expert about Spanish than I am but Gordito (m.) or Gordita (f.) would be correct.
hey, no fair………..sarah palin got 20 minutes of fame……
It seems to me that the train ride and all that jazz is for the effect, for the people. It certainly seems to be working as people are eating it up. More power to the train ride, as more than anything we need something upbeat.
I haven’t been watching it and am ignoring the news shows and discussions because I tend to get a reverse reaction to it all. I’m not effected by the show -- maybe I’m just cold -- but I think the average person gets caught up in it. and I don’t mind it, if they just wouldn’t vote on their emotions.
There wasa a comment on the tv screen that said the people were having their spirits lifted by the plane landing on the Hudson.
Of course they were. They were seeing someone who was in charge ACTUALLy doing what he was supposed to do -- knowing what he was supposed to do, being capable of doing it, and doing it. Add to that there was the resst of the crew that excelled.
We haven’t seen capability or execution or responsibility or success in 8 damn years. Of course, we are thrilled with the safe crash, and Obama is
creating an image of more success. It’s an illusion that might come true. I can’t fault him on this.
Bethy
No —only the people that think that white phosphorous is ok to use—-but I don’t think it is an easy issue for any one including the Palestinians.
H D
I don’t know if I can speak or write Spanish any better than you do,,,I was brought here when I was 4-5 years old,,,,ran away from home at 12,,,,back at 16years old and the Marines at 17,,,,I learned to read and write on my own,,,and speak it also,,anyway I think that you probably can do a better job of it..but I will try to when Im asked,,,,thanks
“—only the people that think that white phosphorous is ok to use—-but I don’t think it is an easy issue for any one including the Palestinians. ”
Solar, Where did anyone say that it was ok to use phosphorous on children. It is these leaps into emotional accusations that make discussing the issue with you almost impossible.
The Israelis started a unilateral cease fire. After two days Hamas has agreed they will observe the cease fire. The Israelis have started to withdraw from Gaza. Syria is talking about being willing to talk. Now if Hamas doesn’t start shooting again, maybe there is a chance for change.
I asked several times if it was ok for it to be used,,,,,and also said that —-that was my main objection,,,asked to just say that it was not ok to be used,,and that was and is my biggest problem with all of this,,
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_50C5_NYwrlE/SXOfJmUpijI/AAAAAAAAAB4/07cIPbw3KW8/s400/Present.jpg
“I feel that Hamas are no good M-- Fer’s,,,and that all the Palestinian peoplewant is to have their land and homes back—-they have been there for almost 2 thousand years,,,as apposed to 100 years or so,,,,,,that the Israel’s have,,,,we are killing kids (this is y biggest bitch) with white phosphorus,,,a chemical that eats the flesh to the bone,,,,,,not once have I seen an empathy for them,,,,,they don’t have the US (the Palestinians)giving them 5 bill, so they kinda have to use some propaganda in order t o catch the worlds attention,,,,,what would you do,,if those were your kids?,,,,the same thing!!!! —it is the tone,,,,fuck em!!!
Last word—-I use bulldozers to clean up work sites before I start to build a house,,,,,,I wonder how many more bodies will be found by them—-700--to 1000 more ?? figure out a way how to get Hamas with that 5 bill,,,and stop killing babies.”
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/straining-to-train-with-lincol.html#comment-190592
This was your reply
“Stop using babies as human shields and I suspect far less of them would be killed. ”
Not going to rehash any more of it,,,
Yes the I AM OUTRAGED THAT HAMAS USES THESE TACTICS,,, now let me hear you say that you are OUTRAGED about the white phosphorous ,,,going for a walk,,,,
While Aid was suspended in 2006 due to the election of Hamas a designated terrorist group, since the signing of the Oslo Accord in 1993, the U.S. government has committed more than $1.8 billion in economic assistance to the Palestinians.
Here is the full article on support given
http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/68794.pdf
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/straining-to-train-with-lincol.html#comment-190686
It is all part of the language here,,,,,,like --you know that Mexican contractor,,,,you know that Irish plumber,,,and yes I know a Jewish Atty—-fella
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3HaRFBSq9k
monty
I have called my wife—the little Italiano,,,,has no baring at all--just a way of talking
this is getting more than silly now,,,Im defending what????
Sturg,,,I saw that one before,,,,sorry to for all the yelling,,,but I have said my piece and won’t argue this any longer,,,,
CHLOE -- I have been so involved with serious talk that I haven’t welcomed Emma Nicole, and congratulated her grandma! I know you are holding her while she sleeps, looking down into those eyes and humming and singing to her with the biggest smile the world has ever seen! As Richard Cohen once said.
At last -- something else to love. I’m so happy for you all.
Solar -- I emphatically don’t think it’s all right to use white phosphorous on children -- actually on any living thing. I hope that makes you feel better, but you seemed to be saying that no one else here was anguished re children being killed. That is what I was speaking to.
I don’t know that white phosphorous is being used by Israel or Hamas or anyone else. Most of what is being done there is illegal here, including inciting to riot and conspiracy to commit murder and genocide. The whole area is a war zone and law isn’t in control -- that’s why I hate using dead children as a rallying cry. It is far beyond that.
Gonna go play with my darlings and marvel at their healthy minds and bodies as they run around and scream and pretend to be scared of monster gammy and monster auntie!
Solar, that would be Italiana unless she is not a she?
In case anyone missed it, Tom Hanks doing the narration for Aaron Copeland’s “Lincoln Portrait” was wonderful. The You Tube is a different Narrator, but it is a good video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vJLJdrS_Go
Just a question. How many have spent any time in the Golan Heights?
AC—-thanks,,,
Defiantly a little Italiana,,,,Im 1/3 greek ,,1/3 Mexican, 1/3 Indian,,,My wife is also part Croatian,my son,,,have irish,,polish nephews,nieces,,,and now one of them is going to marry a black girl,,,,there is simply no one around to dislike,anymore,,,not that I ever did —individuals, yes but that is all,,,thanks for lightening up the mood—mine anyway.
An all american family
sorry, el sol……that sketch always comes to mind when i read these circular arguments………………..
No that sketch is great—and I will plead guilty -about the circular argument.
Good piece on Madoff on CNBC — the SEC was warned as early as 2002, and did NOTHING.
patriotism of the left
A video by norman Lear
Born again American
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBZSBGHm0RY
The Audacity of Change: Defacing the Flag
“Defacing the flag in honor of the inauguration of Barack Obama?
Well, dont you dare question their patriotism.
That would be unpatriotic. ”
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=2899
dont dare question their patriotism? lol
the right have been professional liberal patriotism impugners for the last 8 years……..and now they’re feeling constrained all of a sudden?
lol
“dont dare question their patriotism? lol
the right have been professional liberal patriotism impugners for the last 8 years……..and now they’re feeling constrained all of a sudden?”
Ha — yes, and this disease appears to have spread….widely.
I suspect you will start feeling about me as you do about Gordo but I just cant let Obamas decision to appoint Geithner as the SOT go.
I spent last night and a good bit of time today trying to find info on the Internet to help me understand why Geithner is such a good choice in these tough financial times. I found nothing really reassuring except that many Dems and Repubs like the idea and are willing to overlook his blatant IRS error.
It was mentioned that the stock market went up when his nomination was announced. I guess we can start using the stock market as our crystal ball. Up means definitely yes, down, a definite no and no change is a, maybe, check again later.
It reminds me of what happened after 911. We had a serious security crisis in this country so many were willing to let our government make many bad decisions in the name of security. We are and will continue to pay for those decisions. Now we have a serious financial crisis and I fear the same will happen again.
I watched several programs today where someone on Obamas team was questioned about Geithners nomination, after what I would consider a flimsy response, the question was dropped. Again it reminds me of what happened at the start of the Iraq war. No one wants to question the person in power.
The economy affects all of us Is there only one man in this country with the right knowledge/experience to handle the SOT job? I would prefer one we can have faith in.
Change has come to America. I hope that doesnt just mean the color of the president or the political party in power but the ethics and the honesty in how the government operates.
Ct -- you have a very valid point and made it beautifully. I have a hunch, tho, that we’re gonna have to wait and see.
Colorado Bob,
alert alert…I read in the paper today that the Trans Texas Corridor MAY not be dead yet. As of today, no contracts have been canceled or any boards dissolved. This may mean that the project is still on and has now been moved underground.
Bethy, If desire has power it could happen.
Craig, are ya gonna brave the COLD?? If ya do, please post pix.
tt
Palm oil frenzy threatens to wipe out orangutans
TANJUNG PUTING NATIONAL PARK, Indonesia — Hoping to unravel the mysteries of human origin, anthropologist Louis Leakey sent three young women to Africa and Asia to study our closest relatives: It was chimpanzees for Jane Goodall, mountain gorillas for Dian Fossey and the elusive, solitary orangutans for Birute Mary Galdikas.
Nearly four decades later, 62-year-old Galdikas, the least famous of his “angels,” is the only one still at it.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1104ap_as_orangutans_last_stand.html
Timothy F. Geithner vs Obama
“Geithners father, Peter F. Geithner, is the director of the Asia program at the Ford Foundation in New York. During the early 1980s, Peter Geithner oversaw the Ford Foundations microfinance programs in Indonesia being developed by Ann Dunham-Soetoro, mother of President-elect Barack Obama, and they met in person at least once.”
http://angelpolitics.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/timothy-f-geithner-vs-obama/
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Hint: Look at the foundation$ for answers to the SoetorObama “puzzle”.
Singer Donovan gets French medal
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7836659.stm
If you have a blog and love music, you might want to check out The Bloggers Album Project
http://www.rousefamily.com/AlbumProject.htm
Each blog is limited to seven submissions which has to be some form of torture forbidden by the Geneva Convention, but just checking out what everyone has put up so far is fascinating.
Ct -- the conondrum rests on the possibility that a man we have questions about might just be the best one to help us.
I think we need to make it clear that we are watching closely, and then let the pres make the decision.
The problem is who is going to watch closely! It has to be someone who understands the situation, and I’m not sure who that is. but I’m totally in tune with you apprehension.
Thanks Jamie from your link -
Birdland-Weather Report
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI_ZzNf049U
” Danger , Danger Will Robinson ”
‘Lost in Space’ actor Bob May dies at 69 in Calif.
“He was a smoker,” Lockhart remembered. “From time to time (when he was on a break), we’d see smoke coming out of the robot. That always amused us.”
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iyL-6Yym4W__Filb61G4GeeWuUvAD95PTFL01
Hi Bethy,
Anyway no biggy.
Just wanted to follow up on last nights comments.
It’s apparent to me that we were both misunderstanding each other. I was bringing up the Supremes in the context of Gordo’s riff about Obama’s ineligibility and nothing to do with investigating GWB. I thought I was following up on Ping’s comments, but not sure now.
DBC- no prob. I’m in that same ‘not sure boat’ now. I just remember noticing a scotus reference andhad to comment. thanks for your response.
Actually, I wanted to say “not sure now” boat, rather than ‘not sure boat’ now.
The trouble is always in the adverbs.
Okay, I’ll shut up.