Guest Post: The Bill of Goods We Were Sold

Today’s contribution from our longtime regular Jamie:

2010_pipers_540.jpgThis is Tartan Week and there will be all sorts of delightful parades featuring men in skirts. It honors the Declaration of Arbroath sent by the Scottish barons to the Pope in 1320. The Scottish nation was still defeated by England, but someone was listening as many of their descendants landed in a place that became the United States.

skirt.jpgThose descendants produced a Constitution which contained many of the ideas written at Arbroath and finally ratified in 1788. It didn’t do many of their fellow citizens any good until the Emancipation Proclamation was signed by Abraham Lincoln in 1863. Of course all the mothers, wives, and sisters had to wait until 1920 for a full voice.

You would think that the powers that be would have read and understood some of those words by now, but at least a few others were listening. Langston Hughes published “Let America Be America Again” in 1938. Then Frank Sinatra came along with “The House I Live In” in 1945. It didn’t do anyone any good except for some who were listening. Martin Luther King had a dream in 1963 and millions were listening. They also listened when he died.

skirt2.jpgThe ideals of commitment to the common good with shared responsibility and sacrifice have been echoed down the ages and yet we now have a Congress that ignores those great ideas as they bicker about religion, dole out favors to the “more for me” crowd and cripple the programs that benefit the least amongst us. They only have a few days to put together a budget that will tackle the great entitlement programs and cuts will have to be made, but they might want to listen for a while to what the best ideals of this nation are supposed to be — or will they just plug up their ears, not listen one more time, and take a day or two off to watch the parade of the men in skirts.

The house I live in,
luke_kilt.jpgMy neighbors white and black,
The people who just came here,
Or from generations back;
The town hall and the soapbox,
The torch of liberty,
A home for all God’s children;
That’s America to me.
(“The House I Live In,” Albert Maltz, 1945)

Jamie (her blog: Durward Discussion)

 

151 thoughts on “Guest Post: The Bill of Goods We Were Sold”

  1. Woo Hoo,,,
    Very interesting guest post.
    A very simple reply..
    Why oh Why does the Federal Government need to be the clearing house for all that this country needs?
    Why not care for your neighbor without the hand of Big Government taking a piece?
    Why not adopt a local need and just do it?
    That is the foundation and history of the great elements of our and other countries.
    Ask Not what…. and just do it.
    Make a difference today in your home town

  2. another woo hoo for the lassie!
    hearing craig’s plea
    loyally she
    faces the enemy
    we
    and now to battle
    to joust with prattle
    not moo like cattle
    word warriors, take saddle!

  3. mad mustard posted last thread this terrifc observation:
    How interesting is it that the Congressional Black Caucus’ 40th anniversary is the topic of the thread followed by comments lamenting the tenure of the first African-American President of the United States?
    Who woulda’ thunk it that we could go so far so fast and yet not see our own progress?
    perhaps the same observation might be made with the coming and going of 1st sole network anchor katie couric. another ho-hum reaction indicating our progress.

  4. A bonnie, bonnie piece o’ writin’ Jamie! Tho, I fear that under those kilts, a wee bit of somethin’ is missin’ from most o’ the lads on the hill.
    And ping, why does the gov’t feel the need to write tax laws that protect the top at the expense of those that are regulary trod upon?
    How much community outreach do most of the old-school CEOs and Wall Street types do? Do they create many jobs when they are given a break, or, do they just line their own pockets a bit more?
    Read an article about Biz Stone from Twitter. Not living the high life or selling out to Google, etc., so that he can, but using his money for outreach.
    I would argue that the gov’t actually rewards the greedy & selfish. How small of thosein gov’t who want to cut programs for those in who are hurting the most while protecting the wealthy.

  5. Was saddened yesterday to hear Obama’s commitment to Obama. Wish he had chosen the common good and stepped aside.

  6. Why oh Why does the Federal Government need to be the clearing house for all that this country needs?
    Why not care for your neighbor without the hand of Big Government taking a piece?
    Why not adopt a local need and just do it?
    —Mr. Ping
    Mr Ping…..you mean like cut loose all restraints and safeguards and services so that the vilest of those among us are free to trod upon slash and burn like the sharks they are? Like…..go back to the sweet days of yesteryear? Slavery, even?
    oh my.

  7. talk about a pair of rose-colored glasses………Mr. Ping is seeing red today…….

  8. The common good? Pssshhh! pesky commoners.
    “Little pink houses…ain’t that America”? -J Mellencamp

  9. http://blogs.cqrollcall.com/trailmix/2011/04/guest-post-the-bill-of-goods-w.html#comment-333523
    Jamie,
    Great read, thank you so very much!
    Ping,
    That perfect world you wish for never has existed any where and never will!! Sorry we have to many examples where neighbors don’t help neighbors and people fall through the cracks. Government is necessary for other things besides waging wars, granted that seems what government does best. Glad to read your post though, thanks..

  10. The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. -Albert Einstein
    And I would add to that, boundless stupidity is alive and well in Washington DC and every state house in the land.

  11. Americans want to believe that any adversity can be overcome, that eventually “the people” will do the right thing and the country will “move forward” again.
    But today, huge numbers of “the people” listen 24/7 to Fox news and vote for politicians who are systematically destroying our economy and our republic. They enthusiastically embrace ignorance, religious extremism, and violence.
    The Roman empire was not destroyed by external forces; it rotted from within. I fear the same thing is happening in the USA. It may be too late to stop it.

  12. http://www.taylormarsh.com/
    “Tea Party Rolls Boehner, Reid and Obama on Budget Message”
    “Pres. Obama, Democrats and progressives don’t know how to do what Ryan and the Tea Party are pushing Boehner to do. Instead, Democrats game out the politics, ignore their own principles in order to get a deal at any cost, which always includes Obama caving in to what the Republicans and the right-wing want, because Pres. Obama would rather do anything than stand on a line and make the Democratic case for the budget the Democrats want and know is better for the American people. Then there’s that other problem: that progressives on Obama’s long lackey list think he knows best even when he’s silent.
    What’s continually frustrating is that Democrats aren’t making their side of the argument, which includes revenue streams to raise taxes on mil-billionaires, while also rolling back the Bush tax cuts, then going into the Pentagon budget, including accelerating our exit from Afghanistan and Iraq, adding a tariff on imported Chinese goods, ending farm subsidies and corporate welfare, too.”

  13. Jamie…. excellent post!
    Tartan Week…. how apropo… I was talking to a friend yesterday who went to join the labor protestors in Wisconsin 3 weeks ago. He said the most moving thing to him was the firefighters coming out in kilts and playing the bagpipes.
    And speaking of labor…. it turns out that the mural depicting laborers in Maine that governor LePage took down was paid for with federal funds. Now the federal government is saying either put the mural back up or pay back the fair market value of the painting. HA!
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/04/labor-department-maine-mural-repay_n_844618.html

  14. understanably lara logan (before egypt) had been touted as couric successor. but scott pelley?

  15. If you haven’t been paying close attention, you may have missed the fact that the Japanese are now dumping millions of gallons of highly radioactive water directly into the Pacific Ocean. And every day they pump more fresh water into the damaged reactors, which then becomes contaminated, and then they dump that in the ocean, etc.
    How long are the Japanese going to keep doing this? They don’t know.
    Well…the Pacific is a BIG ocean, so I guess that’s OK.

  16. mornin’
    Ping -- terrific sentiment filled with false choices and false facts from the right. The federal government isn’t the clearinghouse you sayit is and nothing the federal government does prevents you or me or anyone from helping our neighbors. the federal government provides through our taxes a social safety net that was created and maintained because there weren’t enough usses (you know, the yous and mes of our communities) helping thems (the neighbors you urge us to help directly) during the depression and after. Over the past several years I have sat on the boards of 2 nonprofits that provide direct assistance to thems -- neither of the orgs gets any fed funding although one does house and feed homeless veterans and is paid a housing and board per diem by the VA for each vet it houses. Both of those orgs struggle to make a budget each year because not enough people and corporations contribute enough money to allow them to do the job that the demands of the unfortunate in our community require. And while those orgs aren’t federally funded, there isn’t a single person on either of those boards who believes that federal funding of those programs that do operate on federal funds are superfluous because of the generosity of the usses of this country. Lemme know when there’s enough help from the family, friends and neighbors of the alcoholic, drug addicted, unemployed homeless vet (or non vet) in filthy clothes that don’t match the season who is talking to someone only he can see and hear to provide him a decent place to sleep, enough food to eat and clothing to wear and the services he needs to be able to defeat his personal devils and become a contributing member of society so that I can stop paying taxes that support the programs that are trying to prevent the old, the unemployed and the like from becoming additional beneficiaries of those organizations and the thousands like them that don’t get the federal funding you suggest provides that help.
    God I hate this kind of bullshit in the morning.

  17. Ping
    Just to answer your question, ratification of that Constitution included several states that still refer to themselves as “Commonwealths” meaning a sharing of the rights, responsibilities and the property of the whole to the public good. Several states refused to ratify until the Bill of Rights was passed because they knew that Democracy fails if the rights of the people are not upheld.
    If the individuals or the states do not protect those rights, responsibilities and wealth then it becomes the job of the Federal government to do so. We can quibble about how much and when, but the ideal has been there from the beginning.
    Read all about the Scottish renaissance in the 1700s. The founders were listening when they wrote that Constitution, you might want to know what was being said during conversations. The Federalist papers have a lot of the ongoing argument but not all of it.

  18. jamie, great post. The rhetoric about what the constitution stands for is greater than what it provides. It took 77 years after the adoption of the US Constitution -- and 29 years after the last of its signatories had died -- and a civil war and the incredible courage of one remarkable president to take the step of giving those who were not considered worthy of full citizenship or freedom the basic rights that were minimally necessary to reconcile the document with the Declaration. We owe a debt to the Scots for their defiance -- a model we copied to a great extent (and their music and moonshine and Scotch -- single malt if you don’t mind).

  19. Blue, jamie, I don’t think the deficiencies under the kilt that you note is limited to those on the hill.

  20. Pogo
    That single malt should have a birthday prior to 1990 please.

  21. Someone carve Ping’s post in stone, it can be read back to Ping when some low wage stooge, who can barely read, cleans his bed when he’s just had a “light case” of diarrhea.

  22. There’s about to be a lot of old people on the bricks, here in Lubbock, we zoned them into a “camp” as it were, when a drunken homeless woman began acting out at people and kids at our main library.
    The thing about this Tea Bag Age we find ourselves in, ………. it only works , if you can’t see 5mm past your nose, or 5 min. into the future.

  23. Now, tanks to Jamie, ……… I have to deal with “men parading in skirts”, while I try to do chore “A” of the day.

  24. The world’s biggest fish market is being destroyed as I type. Day by day.
    The tsunami got the fleet, and the exploding reactors got the fish. Even if you fish way away from them , Japanese fish aren’t even worth the time and money to catch.

  25. 1954 -
    ” Nuclear Power Too Cheap To Meter ”
    2011 -
    ” Nuclear Power Too Expensive To Pay For ”

  26. Jamie, the McLeish side of my family says _very_ well done! And of course your tribute to Dr King arriving the day after the 43d anniversary of his loss to humanity gives us all pause for reflection on the opportunity that is being squandered by our current president.

  27. Flatus, there is considerable truth in what you say -- and Congress also is doing its best to make sure that no opportunity to improve the country goes unwasted.

  28. Flatus,
    I love The Weary Blues and mentioned Let America Be America above. Hughes was a genius and one of my favorites is nothing but a list that shows his fun side.
    Only someone of the level of a Donne, Shakespeare or Hughes can write a poetic list. In the case of Hughes it is in praise of black women and all the shades of black and brown in “Harlem Sweeties” where he makes you see and taste the colors of the tropics.
    http://www.poetryfoundation.org/archive/poem.html?id=177389

  29. “A sea water sample from the shorelines of Japan’s crippled nuclear plant shows levels of radioactive iodine are 7.5 million times the legal limit.”
    http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/international/japan-sea-water-radiation-far-exceeds-legal-limit-20110405
    7.5 million! But of course, the pro-nuke guys on CNN, etc., all keep saying the same thing: Don’t worry, it will be diluted in all of that water in the ocean.
    I wanna see one of those guys brave enough take a nice saline bath in the stuff. Poor, sweet fishy. Poor, sweet Earth.

  30. Well, here’s a summary of the ‘can’t budget -- released 3 days before the current CR expires and the gov’t shuts down. (Isn’t this the same party that complained that the HC reform bill was only posted for 4 months before they had to vote on it -- and that was too little time? I digress.) I heard Ryan and his ‘can’t buddies from ways & means talking about how this is the best thing since sliced bread.
    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/republicans-bet-public-will-reward-them-for-proposing-cuts/?smid=tw-nytimespolitics&seid=auto
    There are things in it that don’t offend me and things in it that I am very skeptical about. If it’s the start of the conversation. fine. If they thinkit’s close to the end of the conversation, tough luck -- the term “veto pen” comes to mind.

  31. poor sweet alaska king crabs and poor sweet kodiak bear who eat sealife washing in by the current that washes in from japan

  32. Republicants…… can’t educate the populace…. can’t rebuild our infrastructure… can’t have healthcare… etc., etc., etc.
    we can’t can’t can’t can’t can’t can’t can’t….
    because we’re broke (a lie, IMO)…. although we can give tax breaks to the wealthiest….
    now this is a patriotic attitude that help build this great country and will continue it on the path to greatness….
    dontcha just love fairy hairy airy tales….

  33. The White House on Monday directed agency heads to finalize contingency plans for a possible government shutdown……
    …..The plans outline in detail how federal managers are supposed to handle their workforces, contractors and operations in the event of a shutdown. Among other things, the plans offer guidance to managers on how to decide which personnel and contractor employees to keep working in a non-pay status and which to send home under a furlough. In broad terms, personnel who are needed to protect life, property, public safety and national security will be kept working in the event of a shutdown and are expected to be paid for their work retroactively once a budget deal is worked out.
    The memo’s release marks a reversal for the White House, which in recent weeks repeatedly declined to discuss shutdown preparations on the grounds that it expected a budget agreement to be reached.
    http://www.federaltimes.com/article/20110405/AGENCY01/104050301/1001/BENEFITS01
    and
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703806304576244703975542520.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

  34. “In broad terms, personnel who are needed to protect life, property, public safety and national security will be kept working in the event of a shutdown and are expected to be paid for their work retroactively once a budget deal is worked out.”
    pogo, doesn’t this trickle down and mean non-functioning post offices, banks, courts, state agencies who live on fed dollars?

  35. More budget.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110405/ap_on_re_us/us_republican_budget
    and more
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-government-readies-for-shutdown-obama-dismisses-gop-stop-gap-plan/2011/04/05/AFAa71iC_story.html
    and finally
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/house-republicans-unveil-35t-budget-blueprint-for-2012/2011/04/05/AFT6IDjC_story.html
    I just love this …
    “The 2012 budget blueprint would not touch Social Security, the single largest federal program, which provides income support to nearly 60 million seniors, disabled people and others. But with the cost of benefits expected to exceed revenues this year, Republicans say they would enact legislation to force President Obama to propose changes to “restore balance to the fund.” Suggested reforms include adjusting the retirement age to reflect longer life spans and slowing the growth in benefits for higher-income workers.”
    Chickenshits. They will force Obama to enact the cuts to SS? Obama, in vetoing the bill, should say, “You want the cuts, you come up with the cuts.”
    And Bob, at least you won’t have to go a mile down to see fish that glow -- wait, that’s not a good thing is it?

  36. OK everybody…. put your hand together…. and sing along with me…
    give me a “C”
    give me an “A”
    give me an “N”
    give me an “apostrophe”
    give me a “T”
    what’s that spell….. CAN’T
    what’s that spell…. CAN’T
    what’s that spell…. CAN’T
    Be Patriotic…. have that ol’ fashioned “CAN’T DO” attitude!

  37. Here’s the site to try to get an amendment to the Constitution to declare corporations are not people.
    Soylent Green may be people but corporations are not.
    http://movetoamend.org/

  38. I’d like seeing Ping write tomorrow’s guest post. And no snide remarks--he has a lot of thoughtful things worth listening to. And, he’s especially well traveled. And, best of all, he’s one of us.

  39. Corporations ……….
    1 week after Leslie Stahl showed a hollow world headquarters with no CEO in Switzerland on 60 Mins. All to dodge US taxes. These ass clowns at TransOcean award themselves bonuses for a banner safety year, because they figured out how to make a smashed finger count just as much as the explosion & sinking of a company rig with the loss of 11 hands.
    Remember the Deep Water Horizon

  40. cbob, when i saw that “bonuses for a banner safety year” i wondered what were those horrific and hellish years transocean had in the past if this last one was a good year by comparison.

  41. Update at 1:57 pm ET: Reuters news agency, quoting internal UN documents that its correspondent has seen, reports that Ivory Coast strongman Laurent Gbagbo has surrendered and asked for UN protection.

  42. “I’d like seeing Ping write tomorrow’s guest post. And no snide remarks--he has a lot of thoughtful things worth listening to.”
    flatus, good idea.

  43. Talk radio said that Peter King R NY received a package containing a bloody pigs foot. Now that can’t be from a Muslim because isn’t it against the Muslim Religion to eat or touch pork as in pig?
    Anyway not sure if its true or not, just heard it on talk radio.

  44. patd
    I agree about Ping writing if he wants to do so. I would love to hear his views on many things, particularly the Ryan proposed budget items.

  45. China is beating the U.S. in the race to supply clean-energy technologies to the world, helped by a government bank whose advisers include Henry Kissinger.
    China Development Bank Corp., which listed the former U.S. secretary of state as an advisory board member in a 2010 bond prospectus, agreed last year to lend 232 billion yuan ($35.4 billion) to Chinese wind and solar power companies. The U.S. gave about $4 billion to their American competitors in grants and offered about $16 billion of loan guarantees. Adding in private investment, China also led.
    http://climateprogress.org/2011/04/05/april-5-news-china-buries-u-s-sputnik-clean-energy-goals-trees-more-sensitive-to-climate-change-than-expected/#comment-335600

  46. Research: Great Barrier Reef May Struggle to Regrow
    Two years of research have shown carbon dioxide may have a severe impact on ocean ecosystems such as the Great Barrier Reef. http://www.newslook.com/ videos/ 302212-research-great-barrier-reef-may-struggle-to-regrow?autoplay=true

  47. The terapods in the southern oceans are 30% lighter than pre-industrial levels, thanks to increasing CO2 in sea water This is as the woman says in the clip , “the very corner stone of the food chain” we are tampering with.

  48. Well, the predictions of $4/gal gas are coming true -- I noticed that Kroger has regular at $3.89.9 now -- up 10 cents over a week ago and up 48 cents over last year. And Exxon had record profits last year and Transocean had a “record” year for safety.
    Now about those tax benefits that Ryan’s budget retains for big oil..
    .Welcome to the party.

  49. Well, the predictions of $4/gal gas are coming true -- I noticed that Kroger has regular at $3.89.9 now -- up 10 cents over a week ago and up 48 cents over last year. And Exxon had record profits last year and Transocean had a “record” year for safety.
    Now about those tax benefits that Ryan’s budget retains for big oil..
    .Welcome to the party.

  50. OOOOPPPSSS -- typo -- gas is up 84 cents over last year. That’s an increase of about 1/3.

  51. OOOOPPPSSS -- typo -- gas is up 84 cents over last year. That’s an increase of about 1/3.

  52. Ping has talked about traveling to Germany quite a few times. Since Germany is a mixture of capitalism and socialism, I’d like to know what he thinks we here in America have as an advantage over German society because of their socialist tendencies. How does our standard of living compare with the average German’s.

  53. “Federal agencies have begun making contingency plans for a possible shut down and Obama laid out several functions that would stop if the government shuts down, including some veterans’ benefits, small business loans and national parks and monuments.
    He quipped that lawmakers have “enough of a cushion” that is not available to other Americans.”
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/52593.html

  54. now maybe some of that aid money will start flowing
    “Musician Michel “Sweet Micky” Martelly is the winner of Haiti’s presidential run-off, according to official preliminary results.
    Figures indicate he secured more than two-thirds of the vote, beating former first lady Mirlande Manigat.
    If the results are confirmed on 16 April, Mr Martelly, 50, will succeed President Rene Preval, who has been in office for five years.”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12966875

  55. http://www.taylormarsh.com/2011/04/05/what-obama-caving-on-ksm-trial-says-about-us-all/
    “What Obama Caving on KSM Trial Says About Us All”
    “After a rousing discussion, Joe Scarborough agreed with the decision to keep the trial of KSM at Gitmo. His main concern was that candidate Obama had pronounced these policies of Bush-Cheney “evil” and “un-American.” Meanwhile, Mika Brzezinski and John Heilemann made the ludicrous argument that Obama’s moral compass remains on course while taking issue with Scarborough over whether Obama ever said anything close to what Joe was claiming. Evidently it’s not enough to adopt the very Bush-Cheney policies you railed against and said you’d change.
    Being as aware as anymore who covered the ‘08 election cycle, including the “Game Change” author(s) John Heilemann, there is no doubt that candidate Obama implied that Bush-Cheney policies on Gitmo were in fact “evil” and “un-American.” It was the wink and nod between Obama and his die hard fans, as well as skeptical progressives who voted for him, including myself, as Obama pledged that he’d have a different type of presidency.
    Mika then turned the subject away from Obama’s responsibility to do better by asking whether Obama would have opened Gitmo in the first place. It reveals the bankruptcy of his apologists on KSM’s trial, because this has absolutely nothing to do with the cowardice of the Obama administration to rubber stamp Bush-Cheney policies where the rule of law is concerned.
    Of course, Joe Scarborough has no problem in theory with these same policies, mind you, he just wants Obama supporters to eat it and admit what Obama channeling Bush means looking backward.”

  56. http://www.taylormarsh.com/2011/04/05/what-obama-caving-on-ksm-trial-says-about-us-all/
    “What Obama Caving on KSM Trial Says About Us All”
    “After a rousing discussion, Joe Scarborough agreed with the decision to keep the trial of KSM at Gitmo. His main concern was that candidate Obama had pronounced these policies of Bush-Cheney “evil” and “un-American.” Meanwhile, Mika Brzezinski and John Heilemann made the ludicrous argument that Obama’s moral compass remains on course while taking issue with Scarborough over whether Obama ever said anything close to what Joe was claiming. Evidently it’s not enough to adopt the very Bush-Cheney policies you railed against and said you’d change.
    Being as aware as anymore who covered the ‘08 election cycle, including the “Game Change” author(s) John Heilemann, there is no doubt that candidate Obama implied that Bush-Cheney policies on Gitmo were in fact “evil” and “un-American.” It was the wink and nod between Obama and his die hard fans, as well as skeptical progressives who voted for him, including myself, as Obama pledged that he’d have a different type of presidency.
    Mika then turned the subject away from Obama’s responsibility to do better by asking whether Obama would have opened Gitmo in the first place. It reveals the bankruptcy of his apologists on KSM’s trial, because this has absolutely nothing to do with the cowardice of the Obama administration to rubber stamp Bush-Cheney policies where the rule of law is concerned.
    Of course, Joe Scarborough has no problem in theory with these same policies, mind you, he just wants Obama supporters to eat it and admit what Obama channeling Bush means looking backward.”

  57. “It remained unclear Tuesday whether 1.4 million active-duty troops will receive paychecks on April 15 as a top Pentagon spokesman said the Defense Department continues work on plans for a possible government shutdown on Friday…..
    ……A copy of draft guidance obtained by Military Times in March said troops would be expected to show up for work but would not be paid until funding is restored. The draft guidance had not been signed.”
    http://www.navytimes.com/news/2011/04/military-pay-shutdown-update-040511w/

  58. http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2011/04/05/similarities-between-ryans-medicare-plan-and-affordable-care-act-make-dem-pushback-tricky/
    “Similarities Between Ryan’s Medicare Plan and Affordable Care Act Make Dem Pushback Tricky’
    “The basic description of Ryan’s Medicare privatization program is essentially indistinguishable from the new “Obamacare” exchanges. So, basically every progressive complaint you will hear about the horrible design of Ryan’s Medicare privatization plan could apply equally as well to the Democrats’ new health care law.
    Democrats could have made a very clearcut and principled case for why Ryan’s plan is so wrong, but now they need to tie themselves in logical knots explaining why it is a great system for Americans under 65, yet a horrible one for those over 65.”

  59. Dear Renee -
    Please do me one favor.
    Design us a loom that makes Hammocks from bad garden hose.
    I know a chocolate shop on the “Vine” that will sell everyone we make.
    But I know this really cool cabinet man in South Carolina, that can make the wood parts, and I’m thinking if you make to a very simple design, ………. ( You know this stuff doll , you lived your whole life for this. )
    BOOM we’re of to the races, more money that God ever dreamed of ,……………..
    YOU PEOPLE HAVE KNOW IDEA HOW MUCH BAD GARDEN HOSE IS LAYING AROUND.
    Your raw material is “free”.
    This god damn deal will build the fish camp kids. Trust me
    If I sell you a “Loom Kit” to weave it , we’re of to the races kids
    The “Loom Kit” is 2 -- 2X6′s with holes in them , RR knows this.
    Buy this thing for $19.95 , show people how to weave frozen garden hose into Hammocks.
    We need a Hammock from a ship in shape, but woven from Bad Garden Hose. that for $19.95, as many as I care to make.
    The wool is ” free”. And our man in the Carolina’s can sell Hammocks to Eskimos.

  60. Dear Renee -
    Please do me one favor.
    Design us a loom that makes Hammocks from bad garden hose.
    I know a chocolate shop on the “Vine” that will sell everyone we make.
    But I know this really cool cabinet man in South Carolina, that can make the wood parts, and I’m thinking if you make to a very simple design, ………. ( You know this stuff doll , you lived your whole life for this. )
    BOOM we’re of to the races, more money that God ever dreamed of ,……………..
    YOU PEOPLE HAVE KNOW IDEA HOW MUCH BAD GARDEN HOSE IS LAYING AROUND.
    Your raw material is “free”.
    This god damn deal will build the fish camp kids. Trust me
    If I sell you a “Loom Kit” to weave it , we’re of to the races kids
    The “Loom Kit” is 2 -- 2X6′s with holes in them , RR knows this.
    Buy this thing for $19.95 , show people how to weave frozen garden hose into Hammocks.
    We need a Hammock from a ship in shape, but woven from Bad Garden Hose. that for $19.95, as many as I care to make.
    The wool is ” free”. And our man in the Carolina’s can sell Hammocks to Eskimos.

  61. That , ……… I have been sitting on for years.
    It sounds like a $3 Dollar Bill, at first blush , but by God think about all the garden hose that wears out, boom straight to the dump.

  62. That , ……… I have been sitting on for years.
    It sounds like a $3 Dollar Bill, at first blush , but by God think about all the garden hose that wears out, boom straight to the dump.

  63. Old Sea -
    What’s a brightly colored recycled hand made Hammock on the “Vine” worth ? Garden hose comes in colors.

  64. Old Sea -
    What’s a brightly colored recycled hand made Hammock on the “Vine” worth ? Garden hose comes in colors.

  65. Sturg -
    Jimmy Buffet between palm trees on a Hammock made from Bad Garden Hose. Tell me those crackers won’t buy it.

  66. Sturg -
    Jimmy Buffet between palm trees on a Hammock made from Bad Garden Hose. Tell me those crackers won’t buy it.

  67. Garden Hose ain’t the only thing that this loom will handle. You could feed it plastic shopping bags. Those are even cheaper than ” Free”.

  68. Garden Hose ain’t the only thing that this loom will handle. You could feed it plastic shopping bags. Those are even cheaper than ” Free”.

  69. cbob,, glad you brought up the ubiquitous to extreme plastic bags. question for you, jack, solar, sturge, and all the other construction experts on the trail, would wadded up plastic grocery bags stuffed into walls and attics work as insulation? if not for a house, how about outbuildings to protect stored items from freezing in winter and excessive heat in summer. dog houses and chicken coops. would there be moisture/mildew problems?

  70. “Could a government shutdown help the economy?
    Some market observers and federal government officials say it actually could be helpful by making a failure to raise the federal debt limit — a potentially catastrophic event — significantly less likely.
    A shutdown, the theory holds, could satisfy the intense hunger among conservative Republicans and some budget-hawk Democrats to take a symbolic stand on spending before the nation breaches the debt limit, which Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner now says will happen no later than May 16.
    From an economic perspective, failure to raise the debt limit — or to even come close to failure — would have vastly larger implications than a brief shutdown.”
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/52602.html

  71. Flatus -- I, too, would love ping to write something. And he, in turn, would love knowing my head was exploding. :)

  72. CBob…
    as long as your material is flexible… you can weave it.
    You don’t need a loom…. just a frame. It’s called off loom weaving. It’s how all those beautiful Navajo rugs are woven…. 2x4s nailed together… or tree branches lashed together.
    first…. patd is correct… we’d have to thaw out the hoses… then they could be woven on the ground. The hard part would be the beginning and ending… called the finishings…. I guess we’d have to use rope.
    Trash weaving could be intriguing…. afterall lots of people do sculptures with trash… which would be another way to use up the bad garden hoses.

  73. patd -- The problem is, any company who does business w/the gov’t doesn’t get paid. They, in turn, can’t pay their vendors. I experienced this when it happened the last time. It hurts cash flow in the private sector, and, the smaller you are, the more it hurts.
    I’m still steamed that they put tax cuts for the wealthy in the budget proposal because, hey, it is still a cut. Right.

  74. rr -- A memories of my childhood potholder loom. I still have my red, white & blue bicentennial potholders.
    Maybe do the hose like a braided rag rug?

  75. Wisconsin Supreme Court
    RESULTS as of Wednesday, Apr 06, 2011 at 07:05 am CDT
    Election Home
    Supreme Court REPORTING 99%
    David Prosser (inc) 733,074 50%
    Joanne Kloppenburg 732,489 50%

  76. Wisconsin Supreme Court
    RESULTS as of Wednesday, Apr 06, 2011 at 07:05 am CDT
    Election Home
    Supreme Court REPORTING 99%
    David Prosser (inc) 733,074 50%
    Joanne Kloppenburg 732,489 50%

  77. jack, glad to see you back in the garden now that the weeping cherry is in bloom.
    http://showyourgarden.blogspot.com/
    as you-know-who said “flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land” except for you. we miss your turtle voice.

  78. jack, glad to see you back in the garden now that the weeping cherry is in bloom.
    http://showyourgarden.blogspot.com/
    as you-know-who said “flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land” except for you. we miss your turtle voice.

  79. “Forces loyal to Ivory Coast’s internationally recognized President-elect Alassane Ouattara have stormed the residence of incumbent leader Laurent Gbabgo in Abidjan, reports said on Wednesday…..
    …..The former Ivorian strongman and his family have been holed up in a basement bunker of the presidential palace guarded by his troops…..
    …..Further confirmation of Ouattara forces’ entry into the Gbagbo residence came from a spokeswoman for the troops who said soldiers had fanned out to various corners of the presidential enclave to catch Gbagbo.”
    http://www.rttnews.com/Content/GeneralNews.aspx?Id=1592307&SM=1
    hopefully someone in libya will be so inspired.

  80. “Forces loyal to Ivory Coast’s internationally recognized President-elect Alassane Ouattara have stormed the residence of incumbent leader Laurent Gbabgo in Abidjan, reports said on Wednesday…..
    …..The former Ivorian strongman and his family have been holed up in a basement bunker of the presidential palace guarded by his troops…..
    …..Further confirmation of Ouattara forces’ entry into the Gbagbo residence came from a spokeswoman for the troops who said soldiers had fanned out to various corners of the presidential enclave to catch Gbagbo.”
    http://www.rttnews.com/Content/GeneralNews.aspx?Id=1592307&SM=1
    hopefully someone in libya will be so inspired.

  81. should the varmints be run to ground headlines will read:
    “gbagbo bagged” and “g’day g’daffy”

  82. should the varmints be run to ground headlines will read:
    “gbagbo bagged” and “g’day g’daffy”

  83. Gasoline went up 20 cents a gallon yesterday in northern Maine, $3.94 this AM.

  84. Gasoline went up 20 cents a gallon yesterday in northern Maine, $3.94 this AM.

  85. Nash, how much is it in the nearest accessible Canadian town, it there is such a place? We’re at $3.35 in Columbia which is down $0.12 from what I paid on Monday.

  86. Nash, how much is it in the nearest accessible Canadian town, it there is such a place? We’re at $3.35 in Columbia which is down $0.12 from what I paid on Monday.

  87. Canada is running 137 -- 143 cents per liter so roughly $5.50 -- 6.00 a gallon

  88. Canada is running 137 -- 143 cents per liter so roughly $5.50 -- 6.00 a gallon

  89. Flatus: I live ten miles from the Canadian border, but there’s no help there; Gasoline is MUCH higher in Canada. (Those damn socialists tax themselves too much.)
    I’m wondering if the steep gasoline price rise has anything to do with the possible shutdown of the US govt tomorrow.
    Maybe I should go down to the general store and stock up on food…and ammunition.

  90. Flatus: I live ten miles from the Canadian border, but there’s no help there; Gasoline is MUCH higher in Canada. (Those damn socialists tax themselves too much.)
    I’m wondering if the steep gasoline price rise has anything to do with the possible shutdown of the US govt tomorrow.
    Maybe I should go down to the general store and stock up on food…and ammunition.

  91. REmember those “damn socialists” have free health care and better mass transit so you don’t have to drive to the doctor. :-) Might be worth the price difference.

  92. REmember those “damn socialists” have free health care and better mass transit so you don’t have to drive to the doctor. :-) Might be worth the price difference.

  93. What may happen when the govt shuts down.
    (1) They turn off the heat in the Senate pool, and Harry Reid catches a cold.
    (2) US Naval vessels must drop anchor at the nearest port and let all the sailors go ashore to party. (Yeah. That will happen.)
    (3) US Border patrol agents all stay home to watch “NCIS” and “Law & Order” re-runs, and millions of illegals swarm over the borders.
    (4) Finding the US economy a bigger mess than the one back home, the illegals leave.
    (5) When her paychecks stop coming, Michelle Bachman tries to make ends meet by selling pencils on a streetcorner.

  94. What may happen when the govt shuts down.
    (1) They turn off the heat in the Senate pool, and Harry Reid catches a cold.
    (2) US Naval vessels must drop anchor at the nearest port and let all the sailors go ashore to party. (Yeah. That will happen.)
    (3) US Border patrol agents all stay home to watch “NCIS” and “Law & Order” re-runs, and millions of illegals swarm over the borders.
    (4) Finding the US economy a bigger mess than the one back home, the illegals leave.
    (5) When her paychecks stop coming, Michelle Bachman tries to make ends meet by selling pencils on a streetcorner.

  95. Nash, you are not alone, in CT gas is now over $4/gallon regularly. Yesterday, it was $4.11, though
    it was for 91, not even the highest premium, which was
    at $4.19.
    KG, are you around, pretty sure you have already seen the over $4/gal gas in CA.

  96. Nash, you are not alone, in CT gas is now over $4/gallon regularly. Yesterday, it was $4.11, though
    it was for 91, not even the highest premium, which was
    at $4.19.
    KG, are you around, pretty sure you have already seen the over $4/gal gas in CA.

  97. Sounds as if you have a case of local gouging going on. Here, we have some reasonably good competition.
    Since we moved here, we keep food, sleeping bags, a tent, generator with fuel, pioneer tools, etc., ready along with our mini-SUV. I’m willing to share, but if someone wants to take, they’ll find themselves on the working end of my ka-bar.

  98. Sounds as if you have a case of local gouging going on. Here, we have some reasonably good competition.
    Since we moved here, we keep food, sleeping bags, a tent, generator with fuel, pioneer tools, etc., ready along with our mini-SUV. I’m willing to share, but if someone wants to take, they’ll find themselves on the working end of my ka-bar.

  99. Nash, ref your item 5. I heard on one of the ‘news’ shows that the critters are exempt from the nopay effects of the shutdown.

  100. Nash, ref your item 5. I heard on one of the ‘news’ shows that the critters are exempt from the nopay effects of the shutdown.

  101. if the government does shut down, could it maybe stay shut down until, say….May? Or June?

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