Rolling Stone’s Matt Taibbi is making sense on Occupy Wall Street protestors.
“Imus in the Morning,” Fox Business News (10/12)
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woo hoo!
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/simcain-herman-cain-9-9-9-plan-resembles-202458219.html
Why does MoJo continue to have Donny Deutch on? He said something to the effect that, he doesn’t want anyone to die, but what the Occupy Wall Street movement needs is a Kent State moment. Suggesting such a thing, even with the disclaimer, doesn’t make it right, does it?
That’s how Faux plays it. When someone said it was non-violent last week, the talking-head-of-the-hour sounded absolutely hysterical, pointing out there had been 700 arrests. The other person couldn’t even get a word in to tell the viewers that those people were having a sit-in on a bridge.
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DALLAS
“Occupy members have to walk as much as a half-mile to find the nearest public restroom that’s open. “This is all about sanitation and health and safety of our members,” he said. “I think the more real threat is our people having to walk through the streets at 3, 4 a.m. just to find a public restroom.”
It’s not safe to walk in some areas of downtown Dallas during the day, let alone at night.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/13/occupy-dallas-portable-toilets-lawsuit_n_1009534.html
Great conversation, but noticed the business guy was moaning about the thousands of jobs lost on Wall Street and the city needing a vibrant business community as if it were the OWS protestor’s fault.
Brokers and traders always lose jobs in a downturn and the OWS people didn’t cause the downturn, Wall Street did. Just one more case of those in the drivers seat blaming the people forced to ride along for an accident the driver caused.
Some nice photographs of the OWS protestors at Zucotti Park. Lots of meditating going on.
Listening to Perry’s speech. He could be an Einstein and I wouldn’t be able to take that voice for more than five minutes. After 8 years of Bush, it is just too much to ask of any human being.
“Jamie says Great conversation, but noticed the business guy was moaning about the thousands of jobs lost on Wall Street”
Yes, i wonder if any of them join the protest. you never know
btw, I especially liked Matt’s point that by keeping it somewhat vague these protests tap into a wider universe of the disaffected without driving some away with specifics. What’s signficant about OWS is how real and widespread the anger against political and economic elites
Jamie… if I hear another business guy/rightwinger say that the protestors want to take money away from Wall Street and give it to themselves… I’m going to start throwing shoes at my tv.
People want jobs… they want a financial system that isn’t rigged… they want to be able to work hard, make a decent wage, and retire with a little dignity. They don’t want handouts.
Where is everyone today? Out protesting? The rest of the world seems to be ready to join in tomorrow.
http://news.yahoo.com/wall-street-sit-goes-global-saturday-105459242.html
“In Houston, protesters plan to tap into anger at big oil companies.”
Meanwhile, Rick Perry continues with the only plank in his platform: drill-baby-drill.
Not all Wall Streeters ridicule OWS. Here is one the world’s biggest bond traders saying it would be “foolish and arrogant” to ignore protests
and here’s Ezra Klein’s Q&A with the guy
Matt Taibbi gets it…hopefully, the Wall St. guy heard at least some of what he was saying….
We need a “like” button.
I keep chuckling about all the crap Al Gore got for urging our own Arab spring, long before OWS.
Here is Gore’s recent take on the protests
hey Blue…
if you want to push a like button…. may I suggest you go to CNN.com. Their quick vote today is: which protest movement do you favor more, Occupy Wall St. or the tea party?
So far Occupy Wall St is winning by a 3-1 margin.
Ok blueINdallas, you asked for Like buttons, there they are. Hope this doesn’t make trouble (technical or otherwise).
All: Click buttons below “More Options” if you “Like” this new feature, choose “Dislike” if you don’t
(by the way it doesn’t let users like or dislike their own comments)
On this site I would prefer that people respond with posts, not a like or dislike button.
I’m unsure about the wisdom of having a Dislike button, feels sort of negative. So vote your opinion here.
Choose “Like” button below “More Options” if you prefer only to keep that choice under comments.
Also, the Like button system supposedly doesn’t allow more than one vote per user
“Oregon Democrat says: On this site I would that people respond with posts, not a like or dislike button.”
I hear ya OD. I have mixed feelings but others have asked for it, so thought we’d give it a whirl.
Craig…I think giving it a try is reasonable.
I like having the buttons as an option if only because it might make some of the lurkers drop down from their perches in the ether above us. Still prefer commentary, but it is nice to have them available when you are doing a high speed read through.
Obama sends 100 U.S. military advisers to Uganda
Reuters
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama said in a letter to Congress Friday he is deploying around 100 U.S. military advisers to Uganda to help battle the notorious Lord’s Resistance Army.
The rebel group is accused of a campaign of murder, rape and kidnapping that began 20 years ago.
The White House said the first troops arrived in Uganda on Wednesday. Ultimately, they’ll also deploy in South Sudan, the Central African Republic and the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
So we need a Arab spring type movement to depose the current repressive regime , that would be the Obama administration , ok
The reason that the Occupy Wall Street movement doesn’t have a detailed agenda (at the moment) is that it is a rapidly growing and evolving “network.”
As in the Arab Spring, protesters are using social media like Facebook and Twitter as their primary communication systems. They don’t NEED bullhorns; they are using smartphones, cellphones with internet connectivity. Bullhorns don’t allow you to communicate with people in multiple cities, simultaneously. Unlike demonstrations in the past, all communication is two-way.
In a network, there is no “central node” that controls everything. Ideas and plans slosh around and grow organically, with multiple network members adding or modifying “content,” like wikipedia entries.
This makes it nearly impossible for repressive governments to suppress movements by arresting the “leaders,” because there are none.
Eventually specific demands will emerge. An example would be Egypt where “Mubarak must resign” emerged as the #1 demand.
“Break up the big banks,” works for me.
Perry is pushing the environmentally disastrous “Drill Baby Drill” plan that is nothing but a gift to the oil corporations.
actually the repressive regime is only 1/3 the obama administration. Remember your constitution. Executive legislative , Judicial.
I wouldn’t mind seeing two of those being replaced next year.
A massive slaughter at the polls of incumbents might get our voices heard above the rustle of $100 bills.
Jack
Like: democracy, white birch trees, and cheap Merlot.
Dislike: genocide, malaria, and debit cards.
I think I dislike the like button, although it does give the posts a pop of color.
What I was wanting to like, ya know, like earlier without going to the trouble of posting, was the link to Ezra’s interview. It reminded me of “Horton Hears A Who.”
More Whos need to make some noise for everyone holding power to hear.
A third party, Americans Elect 2012, that is trying to get on the ballot in every state.
You or any registered voter can participate in their on line convention next June and help select the nominee.
Here is an article about them
Interesting imo
Jack
I just went back and clicked “like” on every comment.
I “like” ALL of the discussion on Trailmix and my fear is that if someone doesn’t get a lot of “likes,” they’ll be hurt and stop posting comments.
I wouldn’t want Trailmix to turn into a “popularity contest,” like high school, where I was voted the “most likely to get beaten up by a football player.”
Is Obama doomed?
Commentary: One campaign veteran’s smart bets on the 2012 race
Also other interesting political stuff; like Why Rubio for VP
Jack
http://craigcrawford.com/2011/10/14/understanding-occupiers/#comment-272505
Nash, I think I agree,
although I’ve never been one to hold back when I thought a comment was a pile of turds.
Jack
http://craigcrawford.com/2011/10/12/jeb-boosts-mitt/#comment-272502
No Heather, you had nothing to do with that. I’m just the bar keep around here and when anyone starts breaking the furniture at closing time I send them home for a few hours, but as always they’re welcome back after a good night’s sleep.
Folks, i’m not in cement either way about this Like button so tell me what you think:
Vote “Like” below if you want to keep it, or “Dislike” if you don’t.
Craig… I just voted Dislike…
I’m in agreement with Nash and Jack…. too much like high school. But if you keep it… I want the head cheerleader’s job!
sis boom bah… go team… go team… rah, rah, rah…
LOL@ Renee
What’s not to like….
Nash, I’M BEGGIN YOU. Please don’t make me have to edit your videos every time you post one. All you have to do is add a “v” at the end of your http and your videos will fit our template without causing a shutdown
http://craigcrawford.com/comment/add-video-in-comments/
Sorry, Craig.
I didn’t know the videos were causing a problem.
Craig I used this example to post my video
this is the code I used
[ youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaNH56Vpg-A ]
without spaces
I tried to my last comment but my browser wouldn’t let me.
Adding Video: Under the Commenting tab above please go to “Add Video in Comments” and follow what I think are very simply instuctions for adding video without causing problems.
Or, here is the direct link: http://craigcrawford.com/comment/add-video-in-comments/
http://craigcrawford.com/2011/10/14/understanding-occupiers/#comment-272506
Jack,
Thanks for the link to the is Obama doomed piece! You are an absolute treasure to me and i bet everyone here!
Yep, words cost nothing so i just say the obvious! Damn, TM is so important to me!!
Sorry Nash, don’t mean to be a school marm but I’ve posted about this so many times. Raw links from youtube create trouble. All that’s needed is to add the letter “v” after the “http” in and upi u; smf s;; od prspr
Obama Deploys 100 Troops to Uganda
by Taylor Marsh
Log this one under the same humanitarian emotionalism that convinced Pres. Obama to bomb Libya.
All of those Democrats and progressives who utilized candidate Obama’s anti Iraq war speech to elevate him above all of the other Democrats really do look foolish today.
http://craigcrawford.com/2011/10/14/understanding-occupiers/#comment-272520
Ha, Craig,
We love ya! Thanks for being the school marm and the bar keep!
Heather,
I think your swell as well, ha ha, glad your here!
http://craigcrawford.com/2011/10/14/understanding-occupiers/#comment-272524
Heather,
My pleasure and thank you for being a part of the TM family..
Hillary Clinton Over Joe Biden in 2012? Possible: Jonathan Alter
By Jonathan Alter
Wow, things must be bad for the president if Alter(Obamabot) has resorted to having a Clinton on the ticket!
The man who blocked John Lewis speaks
Occupy Atlanta backer Joe Diaz isn’t a white anarchist. He’s a multiracial Obama voter who’s given up on Democrats.
BY JOAN WALSH
John Boehner totally owned Barack Obama on the phone, according to Boehner
House Speaker releases amusingly self-congratulatory account of phone call with the president to the press
BY ALEX PAREENE
It’s amazing that the majority of praise for John Boehner comes from John Boehner
Craig…
Why are some comments showing up in yellow?
I didn’t notice this before, however upon reloading the page after having to log back in I see some of them are in a yellow background and some in a grey scale background.
Craig…
Also what happened to the Taegan Goddard’s Political Wire link you had on the sidebar?
I really don’t understand why the administration is so upset about Iran ordering a assassination, after all there not doing anything that we don’t do.
Hell, we even assassinate American Citizens without due process of our own laws so why should we care that they do the same thing.
We are no different than any third world county now. In fact after the Bush\Cheney War Crimes Family we are a third world country.
http://craigcrawford.com/2011/10/14/understanding-occupiers/#comment-272532\
Anon,
Yep, your correct! I thought the same thing today while listening to the news..
Anon, goddard’s links will be back soon. I’m just in the middle of some template retooling. Glad you like
them.
http://craigcrawford.com/2011/10/14/understanding-occupiers/#comment-272530
Anon, the background colors are part of the Comment rating system I’m playing with. Those Liked by 5 or more users in yellow, those mostly Disliked in grey, those equally liked and disliked in a another color. Probably not something we’ll keep, but I like to keep new plugins on their default settings a couple days before I tweak them.
Not worth stressing about, Heather. Just give us your views on issues of the day. That’s all this place is supposed to be about.
Anon, Goddard’s Political Wire back on the sidebar. Thanks for everyone’s patience while I do some tinkering.
Craig…
Thank you and good night.
yes and no.
I think I’ll edit myself on down the street……
Voila.