Newt’s Fantasy Campaign software needs an upgrade if he is to go on. But after badly losing the Nevada caucuses reality seemed to creep into his thinking, suggesting that even he knows his quest has become largely theoretical.
During a rambling late-night press conference Gingrich chose less-than-certain words to describe his strategy going forward, saying that his goal is “to seek to find a series of victories which by the end of the Texas primary will leave us about at parity with Gov. Romney, and from that point forward to see if we can’t actually win the nomination.”
Hardly confident words – more like the description of a hapless lab experiment aimed at disproving the laws of physics.
Gingrich seems to think an army of grass-roots Republicans are waiting for him in primaries to come: “The vast majority of Republicans across the country are going to want an alternative to a Massachusetts moderate.”
That might be true, but there’s no proof those voters are waiting to vote for Gingrich – except in his fantasy world.
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A late-night woohoo!!!
I’m already bone weary of the nastiness of this political season…and dreading what I suspect will be far worse nastiness in the general.
Feel no sympathy for Newt. See Romney as one who’ll say whatever you want to hear…if only you’ll vote for him.
Am firmly in the Obama camp as far as my November vote goes. Hope we’re gonna’ see what we hoped for the first term…but recognize we may not. However, we’ll definitely provide safe harbor for the Supreme Court if we keep the Republicans out of the White House!
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Can we still send him to the moon?
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wha happened to paul? a 3rd when he was supposed to be 2nd after all that touted zealous organization of his.
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“However, we’ll definitely provide safe harbor for the Supreme Court if we keep the Republicans out of the White House!”
HW..that’s definitely how y’all convinced me to go for Obama last time. We did get two women. How have they been doing? I know that Sotomayer did vote against Citizens United..good thing.. and that decision I feel has been and will be one of the most corrupting influences on our freedom/democracy.
Yes..I’m a Democrat but I don’t just vote the party line..I like to look at the individual candidate. I never felt like McCain was a bad guy..but he sure tried hard to prove to the powers that be..and to his constituents.. that he was..to get elected last time.
Looking at McCain’s time in Vietnam..he was a good guy. And looking at his McCain-Fiengold bill..he didn’t want elections to be bought. Wiki says of McCain after the Citizen’s United decision…”Senator McCain, one of the two original sponsors of campaign finance reform, noted after the decisions that “campaign finance reform is dead” – but predicted a voter backlash once it became obvious how much money corporations and unions now could and would pour into campaigns.” Those kind of things impress me and he was spot on with what he said there.
I’ve learned that I just can’t listen to the campaign rhetoric..it’s all BS.. I need to look at past actions. I wasn’t real comfortable with Obama last time and how about his actions so far??? Has he fulfilled his promises?? Will he this time. Help me.
Romney..like McCain has been very busy trying to convince people that many of his good actions as Governor were a mistake. It seems to me that he did some good things when he was governor. I just don’t understand those conservatives and why they have to pretend to be AHs to get elected.
There’s no doubt that Newt’s past actions give us a big clue. I don’t think anyone can deny that. Very scary guy and thank God people see it!
Right now..I’m not crazy about either choice.. both have been deceptive. That’s not good. I’m still supporting Roemer even though I understand it’s a pipe dream but he’s focusing on one of the most important issues in our democracy to date..corruption.. and I’m supporting that focus.
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“The biggest billionaire contributor to the Romney group was investor Julian H. Robertson Jr., founder of Tiger Management, who gave $1 million.
Second on the list was William I. Koch, often referred to as “the other Koch brother.” He gave $250,000.
Paul Tudor Jones II, Tudor Investment Corporation founder, gave $200,000.
Wal-Mart heirs Alice Walton and brother Jim Walton each contributed $100,000.”
above quote and entire list of mitt’s superpac billionaires from forbes:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/lauriebennett/2012/02/01/billionaires-give-2-million-to-romney-super-pac/
ct, those two women supreme appointments could easily have been something else given the headaches caused the administration during their nomination trials. obama could have taken an easier path and nominated less controversial folk (in other words waspy type men).
how come no brownie points for that? that was as big a deal as the dadt decision which he’s also not getting much credit for among the progressives.
It took a few Presidents to turn the Supremes into an extension of the right wing GOP. We often forget that the lower ranks that are the source of Supreme appointees have been seeded with equally right leaning legal types. This is one of the reasons it has been so hard for the President to get his appointees approved.
The best use of Democratic votes in addition to the Presidency is to give him at least a centrist voting Democratic house and Senate that matches his own basically centrist inclinations.
He isn’t a one man band and this constant expectation that he perform like a symphony orchestra isn’t really fair.
Craig… it looks like Newtie isn’t through giving the media what it wants… even though he claims it isn’t what you want…. cuz he wants you to want what he wants…
got it…
Carol…
how can you be upset that Obama hasn’t fulfilled all his campaign promises yet think that all campaign rhetoric is BS?
I never thought Obama could accomplish all that stuff to begin with…
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jamie, but must the admin and the current dems have to perform like spike jones and his group?
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Sunday Sublime. If you like old film you will enjoy this I think. Great sound track.
Warning: This is not sublime
I think that it is fair to point out that any number of Obama’s legislative accomplishments might have looked far different had it not been necessary to appease the Liebermans and Nelsons of the world in order to secure their so called Democrat votes.
I can and do fault Obama for a number of things, but the blue dogs were every bit as much of an impediment to Obama as the republicans.
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even less sublime
Why did Obama choose such creeps as advisers? Is it that old saying..keep your friend close and your enemies closer..or…is it like people now using Abramoff to advise on how to get corruption out of government?
BTW..Abramoff has joined a blog called Republic Report. Their mission is to report on how money corrupts democracy..a subject dear to my heart. If you’re interested..
http://www.republicreport.org/
I really do respect the ideas and opinions of the peeps on this blog. I don’t always agree with them but I do respect them. I know that you pay attention and that you care.
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Fantasy abounds in Las Vegas.Newt promises to stay in, and Sharron Angle says that another run is not out of the question. Is it something in the water?
Oh..there’s definitely something in the water Jace. Too many people flush their old drugs down the toilet and I don’t think those water treatment plants can get them all out.
We’re all on hormones..antidepressants..antiseizure..antibiotics but unfortunately..I don’t think they flush their xanax..narcotics or marijuanna. They keep that.
CT,
Newt needs to see a doctor, there are drugs that will help control what ails him.
He really doesn’t like Romney,so perhaps he is just suffering from the dreaded four hour erection. Either way he needs to see a doctor.
Yes..Newt needs to drink more water. It’s also full of anti-psychotics.
Water is great, it’s the Scotch that kills you.
Not a word about this anywhere around here:
http://www.answercoalition.org/national/
Carol…
we are on an individual well for our water source. I’ve never really thought of it as an advantage… but maybe your 9:32 post has convinced me…. thanks.
And, did you see that the group who Dylan Ratigan is associated with, United Republic, has also hired Abromoff. Said it was the same thing as the government hiring former convicted hackers to help with it’s security systems. The crooks know all the tricks.
Obama could campaign on this:
American tax dollars good for Isreal….we helped grow their economy by 4% each year….employment up…housing up,…and the real good news….Palastinians down…we run (civilians )right over their legs with heavy machinery……
War creates an enemy that must be extinguished by government force. The more broadly defined the enemy is, the bigger the government’s role becomes in eradicating it. And when the government wages war against anything, it’s a cycle that’s nearly impossible to stop. The government creates new agencies, and staffs them with union jobs that depend on never actually winning the wars, but rather only perpetuating them.
When poverty rates climb, there’s a crew of government workers secretly high-fiving that their job is safe. When marijuana legalization measures fail, the police and prison unions celebrate. When America is attacked, the weapons manufacturers rejoice. When all Americans are considered terror suspects, surveillance industry stocks soar. And we pay for it all in treasure and freedom.
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/02/5-wars-that-america-must-end-for-peace.html
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Amen Solar.
The elections are just sport for the collosuims crowds….the real games for the rich ‘one %’ are in how the corps keeps us in perpetual wars…..
“The key authors of that document, American neo-cons Richard Perle, David Wurmser and Douglas Feith (who Gen. Tommy Franks called the ‘f… stupidest guy on the face of the earth” i.e. Bob Woodward’s Plan of Attack, pg 281), soon found themselves influential national security positions within a receptive Bush Administration from which to proselytize their recommendations.
A decade later, the authors of that study are gone in name but their spirit of unending wars is alive and well within the Obama Administration’s recently announced “Defense Strategic Guidance” as part of “Sustaining US Global Leadership: Priorities for 21st Century Defense,” Where Clean Break offered what was then a radical Middle East military strategy, Obama’s DSG identifies US military priorities for the 21st century to “confront and defeat aggression anywhere in the world” with an emphasis on the Middle East and Asia-Pacific region as the “greatest challenges for the future.” (Panetta, 1-5-2012)
Even prior to announcement of the DSG, the American military is still pursuing WMD’s as combat troops have been deployed to chase local ‘terrorists’ that pose no threat to the US; such as the Lord’s Army in Uganda and escalating a US military presence dispatching 2,500 Marines to Australia to protect US ‘national interests’ in the South China Sea and Indian Ocean.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/01/28-6
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/282223-defense-strategic-guidance.html
Hi Carol,….HOPE that u are feeling well…i think about U often…and of the others…..
Thinking that this time Obama will keep his promises is something I’ve hoped for and I’ve been able to rationalize that he couldn’t last time because he needed the big money to get re-elected. That’s a fact..as we see that Roemer can’t even get a word in at all because he has no money. Money is the only thing that talks..thanks to the Supremes for putting an exclamation point on that.
But then I think that my believing that is like what I see at my job everyday. Parents go in and bail their kids out of jail thinking that this time..their kids will appreciate it and behave. Hah! How can we reward bad behavior and expect it to change?? Maybe there is still time for Obama..what can he accomplish before the election? Can he now make us believers?
I think that some politicians are starting to see the handwritting on the wall..that we..the people..are getting fed up with this BS. And we the people have an excellent forum…social media..I feel it coming.
It takes people like Dylan Ratigan..Elizabeth Warren..Buddy Roemer..Bernie Sanders..to help us. They are some of my heros. It also requires that we stop blindly following a party and start looking at the individual running for office. The parties are controlled by money.
And I agree that it takes a reformed crook..like Abramoff.. to teach us their methods and how to protect ourselves from the crooks. I’m not so dumb that I couldn’t see thru crap if that’s what he puts out.
We think about you also Solar. Hope your world is treating you right. I think it will because you are a good man.
Carol…
I think it helps to remember that any major change in our political system takes time.
The suffragette movement started in 1848. Women finally got the right to vote in 1920.
The Civil Rights movement was all over the place. Some states allowed free blacks to vote in the 1800s. Most didn’t. We had the Jim Crow laws for decades. After much violence and marching, we finally got the Civil Rights Act in 1964 and the Voting Rights Act in 1965.
The discussion of how money corrupts our political system and governance is just starting. We need a 28th amendment… and that will take more than one election cycle to get passed, IMO.
Carol,
I also watch (tape) the Moyers and company program…..at 11 am I will watch “the ways that conservatives and liberals see the world….thing is…imo no matter how they both camouflage things…it is always about the abortion issue….religion in general is behind all of what the country sees and does things…..there are 8 million catholics that want it one way….while the Born agains want it another way….the evangelist …etc, etc,…..there is so much religion involved in our politics……that we should just go ahead and tax all religions….tax all of their properties…..just think about it….cities could almost balance their books if they tax all churches……they took the place of bars….one on every corner……..
Those are all red herrings Solar..used to manipulate an ignorant electorate. Yeah..they are pro life..until the baby is born..then who cares when that baby is living in a poor or abusive environment? Or what about the life saving procedures that people without health insurance can’t afford? What about the death penalty? And they can’t use the arguement that killing criminals is cheaper..it’s much more expensive. Doesn’t compute to anyone with a lick of sense!
And Renee..I’m not good at waiting. They can screw it up overnight..they can fix it just as fast.
And did you hear David Greggory..on Meet the Press? He tried to use limited research data to predict that if you Patriots win today we will get a Republican president just because in 2004 when they won..we got Bush and in 2008 we they lost..we got Obama. I’d be tweet bashing his ass if I were you.
Since I’m not sure I care which party wins…unless it’s Roemer..I’ll have to go with the Giants today. They have Eli and he’s a Louisiana boy. That’s as close as I can get to being involved in the Super Bowl this year…sniff..sniff.
Solar…Neither group really comes out smelling too good in what that social psychologist had to say but it helps to understand why we do some of the dumb things we do.
Something else interesting he had to say…the books in the library.. on ethics.. are ones the most often not returned books. Go figure.
Carol…
I don’t watch the Sunday morning shows… gave it up years ago. I usually don’t do politics on Sundays… but I’m enjoying the discussion here this morning.
I wish you, Coreen, and any other Giants fan out there good luck. I can’t believe how lucky I am as a Patriots fan to be rooting for my team in another Super Bowl.
It’s such an unfair world and throughtout my career..I’ve had to watch just how unfair it is. I can also see both sides of issues…from the conservative and the liberal.
Working in corrections has really pointed out how unfair life is and I am powerless to change it. To see these poor young people getting arrested for having a piece of a joint..found behind one ear..because they were stopped..searched..because they were just walking in their neighborhood..which happens to be a high crime area. They are stuck in jail for a while because they don’t have a cent to bond out. But then some big wig gets out in a New York minute after being accused of photographing thousands of women’s twats while doing Gyn exams because he’s loaded with money. Not fair.
Not only is it not fair to them..it’s not fair to me because now I have to take care of them..and they havent done a thing about their health..ever..but now that they are being detained..they think that I should fix everthing that ails them…things that weren’t important before. Why..because the taxpayors are going to pay for it. And if it is a significant problem..I have to try.
Can you see why I can see both sides of the arguement? I see the system’s abuse of the people and the people’s abuse of the system and both piss me off.
Renee..I really don’t have a horse in the race..I gonna concentrate on the commercials. It’s kinda nice NOT having to be too stressed with the outcome.
Carol,
Here is a great site that I go to once in a while…
“what word (one) would you say to describe….music….
I don’t know much about Africa,but when I listen to African music, I can feel their spirits and I can communicate with them.
That’s why I call music as language.
http://www.ted.com/conversations/9121/what_word_would_you_use_to_des.html
click on to home page and look around…
If you get cspn-2 and especially cspn-3…they have great conversations about what you have been talking about….I specially like the weekends cspn-3 shows…bookshelf history is my favorite…they have the run-up to the american rebellion and another like it…will tape to watch…….
Oh and if you are still having trouble getting to sleep some times…try listening to the joe frank show….little jazz with story telling….a little space traveling…always thought provoking….he is on npr..chicago….91.5…11 pm. your sisters time…..no your other sister….Maria
http://tinyurl.com/7nvr36b
forgot…just click on play….later
And Renee..I don’t watch any of those programs either..except CBS morning show..sometimes. It’s educational. It just so happened that all I caught of MTP was that stuff on the Super Bowl and the presidents. That’s it.
Most of my political news comes from Stewart and Colbert. I do record Dylan every day..see a little of Maddow.. and some Current TV and what Craig says he will be on. I’m a Craig fan!
I also feel a connection to Africa..maybe because we all are connected..originally. And I do like music with percussion..like Latin music because of the percussion.
Nooners can talk a long time and say nothing
A little Sunday morning Philo sofy
One thing we can count on is a world that is constantly changing. It is not our parents world and quickly, for some of us, no longer ours.
And knowing this I am still caught off guard.
Yesterday, I went down to the city market, it is winter so the local farmers aren’t there but they rent out permanent space for stores. It has turned into our ethnically diverse area. Indian, Arab middle east, small boutique bakery, polish pierogi, African foods and of course the Italians who have been there for ever. The Asian market has grown too big for the area and have bought their own building 2 blocks down.
Any way, what caught me off guard was that I found 2 places that sold live snails. not just small packages but large tanks in bulk, I could have bought them by the hundred weight. That is a lot of snails for a place like Kansas City where they are usually found at the few french restaurants.
Jack, who has ate snails and thought they tasted a lot like butter
carol, just saw an email from roemer’s campaign that may lift your spirits a bit. it said:
btw, with work like yours, i hope you get a break now and then to re-energize not only your body but your spirits. a lotta atta girls your way.
jack, portends things to come: today their own building, tomorrow the world.
Once again Nooners and other goopers do not understand the concept of church and state
Regardless of what Nudie and Nooners think this is not a Catholic country and the church is not the last word on health care for anyone. If you want to run your facilities in a way that is contradictory to civil policy pay for it yourself.
That’s the American way dipsh-ts
Jack,
Like those before them….weather some people like them or not….the “Arabs” the Palestinians etc, etc, are here to stay…..
They are in our schools, in our hoods. they are not afraid of living anywhere.! They are educated….I have talked to a cpl of 7yrs… olds, no not oldsmobile…7 yrs of age…they know how to shop barter already……and are just like any other people….some nice, some great, some shity……
I wonder if people like Nooners realize how much they sound like the people they profess to hate and fear especially when they are talking about using religion as a shield to trample on other people’s rights
Go Pats
They are Palestinians now but they used to be Jordanians before Jordan kicked them out. This is an Arab problem and not an Palestinian problem.
Lots of Palestinian live in the Bay area and happily so integrated into the community. If the Arab community would stop calling for the end of Israel there is a good chance the two groups could figure out a way to peacefully live together.
But that’s not going to happen because forces in the Arab world are using the Palestinian’s to carry out their anti-Israel campaigns.
Carol
I’ve pretty much sworn off all the Sunday shows except for the new one on MSNBC: Up With Chris Hayes. Not only is it a great show on the issues, but has a huge Twitterati following on line that is almost as much fun as the show. If you type in #uppers in the search box, it brings up thousands of comments made by people while the show was on.
And in my own little Bloggingham world here, I am still waiting for the dark horse. Talk about fantasy….
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Patd..I follow Buddy every day on Facebook and Twitter. He’s recieved a little more attention from the media just recently. I think that is because they know he’s no real threat. I do think more of those news people who have him on.their shows ie.Morning Joe..Maddow..Current TV and yesterday I saw him on CNN for the first time. He was on Don Lemon’s show. Don is from Baton Rouge and his mom asked him to have him on. Don’s a good son.
He was also on a radio show the other day called the Stream. It’a an Aljazeera program.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZspfBwzaA94&feature=youtu.be
He was on with Dylan Ratigan.It was good.
Hey eurotom, good idea and maybe reserve a seat for harborwoman and the rest of the crazy lefties that want to see this country go to pot.
Contrary to what the Republican establishment would have you believe, Newt Gingrich is the only candidate who can defeat Barrack Obama. Mitt Romney attacked Newt from day 1 in Iowa. Nothing was said, but when Newt returned fire in defense, everyone piled on him for being “negative” and have been dogging him trying to run him out of the race ever since. Romney has run so many dishonest attack ads with his millions it’s just, well dishonest. And he’s done so with no reprimand, as a matter of fact with blessings. This just shows the Republican establishment’s and both conservative and liberal media’s bias against Gingrich. And just like in 08 the Republican operatives and supposedly conservative media, believing they know better than us common folk, have already selected Romney as their golden-child and are determined to shove him down our throats, the same modus operandi they scream about Obama using. And, just like in 08 with McCain, if they get their way Obama will win again and America will be subjected to 4 more years of a dishonest administration shoving legislation, or illegally circumventing it, down our throats furthering us down the path of socialism, bankruptcy, and national INsecurity! One would think they were intelligent enough to do a little research whereupon they would see Romney is truly only slightly right of Obama on most issues, unless of course they have ulterior motives. There are many videos where he himself speaks to his beliefs and stances on the issues, showing him to be a moderate at the very best, liberal on most. I can understand someone learning and therefore changing their stance on 1 or 2 issues, but to do it on almost every single one reeks of political expediency, period! We need to make these people understand we have only been to 4 states, that the American people’s voices do count, and that if another “08″ occurs we the people will hold them accountable.
In the general election, Obama would clean Romney’s clock just as he did to McCain in 08.Obama will prove him to be the politically expediate candidate he is through the above mentioned videos, showing him espousing his moderate liberal stances on most issues previous to 07, then his sudden conversion to “conservatism” on the very same issues as he ramped up his campaign for the Republican Presidential primary in 08. Obama will definately portray Romney as a representative of the 1% with his untold wealth and secretive accounts in the Cayman Islands and Swiss banks. This class-warfare will play well with the Democrats and a large percentage of Independants, as well as the mainstream media.Romney will not fair well in the debates against Obama either. He has had few really good debate performances, only actually winning the last 2, held in Florida. That’s 2 out of approximately 19, enough said!
Conversely, Newt has had a very strong showing in most of the debates, winning the majority of them. As a matter of fact, in 2 of the debates he received a standing ovation, which is a rare occurrence.Newt will take Obama to the proverbial woodshed in any debate, on any issue, at any time. As far as Newt’s “baggage”, it has been out in the open for many years, thoroughly scrutinized and discussed with most of the allegations proven to be false. There are no surprises to be found here. His conservatism has been proven time and again by his record,receiving an American Conservative Union lifetime rating of 90%, 100% in 1998. He was part of the Reagan team, Nancy Reagan having said at the 1995 Goldwater Institute Dinner honoring President Ronald Reagan, “Barry Goldwater handed the torch to Ronnie, and in turn Ronnie turned that torch over to Newt and the Republican members of Congress to keep that dream alive.”. He has endorsements from proven conservatives ranging from Michael Reagan to J.C. Watts. At the same time, as Speaker of the House under Bill Clinton, he has proven he can work in a bipartisan manner to achieve much needed results while standing firm on his principles. In some cases he had to take on members of his own party to do what he knew was right for the American people. He is a great thinker with bold ideas, and has proven he can convert these ideas into real working solutions, contrary to the inaccurate charges stating otherwise from his past disgruntled colleagues whom he had to take on in some issues.