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Whoo hoo
I watched it live on the tele this morning. Imus showed a great picture of you and David… and a really nice pic of Sean too.
I don’t know if I could stand another election coming down to Florida. So many people feel disenfranchised with the electoral college. I’d like to see it changed to whoever gets the most popular votes wins.
Yep, me too except that the candidate must win with a majority vote not a plurality. if that means a runoff between the two top candidates so be it.
Jack
In fact, I would like to do away with the current primary system and get the government out of the party support business. Parties should be private associations for nominating candidates. let there be an open national primary the first week in September. take the top two vote getters for the November election. Parties for national office are damn near obsolete anyway.
Jack
Jack… I agree about winning with a majority.
I sent an email off to CBob this morning. I’ll let you and this blog know if he responds. I’ve emailed him before with others’ concerns and he’s just shown up here. Let’s hope it works again.
Here is the Mel Brooks version. I not into politics much this morning surfing youtube instead
time to get busy, a great day out. BTW flatus I tried your water the yard trick to get it to rain. It worked. We were really dry, so 2 weeks ago I watered the yard, a good soaking. It has been raining ever since up to around 4 inches in the last two weeks.
Jack
I love the Mel Brooks version…more like my idea of tap dancing
I think the majority rules thing would certainly change the face of elections. No candidate would ever be seem in the middle of the country (except for Chicago) again.
Jack, two inches a week is the normal yield when we do it properly.
Greetings from the desert. The AZ legislature closed its session last Friday but not before passing more anti-abortion bills, including no funds for Planned Parenthood, a state budget that cuts social programs, and adds $50m for a new prison. It’s so much fun living in a state that wants to return to the 19th century. See you online.
Admittedly it could be wishful thinking on my part, but with the proviso that a lot of people might stay home, I think we may see Obama have a major win. One simple reason for this is that the GOP women are lying to everyone who asks. If they stay home the election could be a tight 50/50. If they go to the polls, Obama wins in a landslide.
Anderson Cooper is a bully (like many media news(sic) people…
He had on some moron congressional candidate who in a desperate grab for a few votes hauled out the birther issue…Cooper did a complete number on him
He never did that with Donald Trump or any other main stream gooper who was spouting that craptastic nonsense. Cooper only picks on people who are smaller than he is…of course that’s pretty hard to find (both phyically and now mentally) I think being on daytime tv has turned him into an even bigger idiot
Mr. Bova,
Re yours of 8:58, they’re not Corporate Socialists, they’re corporate commies, as in the chamber of commies. ( :>D))<
I’d skip over the majority/plurality business and just move to letting the Bishops rule.
Back to what Billy was talking about in the last thread.
I think we need come-up with consensus definitions of corporate personhood that will satisfy each interest group’s membership. For example, the salaried executives of multi-national corporations might have a different consensus definition from the corporations shareholders, etc., etc., etc,.
I would like for Rev Sharpton to broach the subject of gay marriage as a civil rights issue. I think he would see it in the light that most of us do.
I concur with Jack about primaries. They’ve been completely taken over by the corporate advertising. The ads hammer away at topics that have no affect in real human’s lives, while joblessness, homelessness, human trafficking, the export of American industry, air, water, & land pollution, global warming & coastal subsidence, affordability of education, universal health care, corporate personhood, and Wall Street regulation are completely ignored.
As a result, once elected, pols never have to deal with the important issues, because important issues have been left off of the table. All they have to do in office is smile, wave, and congratulate the sports champions.
This corporate corruption of the nomination process is even worse than the backroom nominations of the old days.
Flatus,
Re yours of 11:59 :
The stockholder imagines, “I am the company.”
The CEO dictates, “L’corporation c’est moi.”
“It’s so much fun living in a state that wants to return to the 19th century.”
When did AZ enter the 20th Century ?
Katherine,
I think your appraisal of Cooper is sprout on.
XR, only for a brief time in 1912 when AZ was admitted to the Union. Maybe in the 1960′s when legal segregation was outlawed. Other than that, it’s hard to say the state has kept up with any 21st century ideas or policies.
An interesting article in Rolling Stone by Matt Taibbi…
Is This The Most Boring Election Ever?
Obama Slams George W. Bush Economic Legacy in New Ad
by Taylor Marsh
rr, maybe boring is good considering the alternative.
this old chinese blessing is tho’t provoking:
may the gods grant you the peace and tranquility of living in uninteresting times
rr, thanks for the taibbe article. bet he’ll lose some colleague friends in this attack on the media:
Very good Imus appearance, Craig.
Rob’t Reich is my favorite advocate for the role of high finance in American public, corporate, and private life. It’s a shame that his words seem to sail over the heads of the right wing of the high court.
http://craigcrawford.com/2012/05/07/todays-chart-whos-the-big-spender/#comment-288795
Jack,
I hadn’t forgotten how great Fred Astaire was. I used to watch those late night old movies when I was a kid (remember there were more commercials than movie) during summer vacations. Of course the TV stopped transmitting around 2am — I seem to remember there were only 3 channels too.
Those old movies influenced a lot of the values I still have today. What a different generation that was, and I feel lucky to have been able to share so much of it through the movies.
Right now I’m hooked on watching foreign language movies (Netflix downloads mostly) and have become very attached to the differences and beauty of the many different cultures. French is my favorite, but I also have enjoyed many movies from most all the other cultures, and learned a lot and have enjoyed them immensely. At the same time, reading subtitles is great, because I love reading (after a while, you forget that your reading and you think you’re hearing them in English). Watching them has really added to my appreciation of so many other countries and their different lifestyle and values.
…. looking forward to seeing your new garden pics in the future.
Not doing “Turks” tonight after all. Ended up having to get an unexpected root canal this afternoon. Thought it was just a simple toothachee. Ugh!
Speaking of the past, how little things have changed:
““If you don’t read the newspaper, you’re uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you’re mis-informed.”
Mark Twain
“Ended up having to get an unexpected root canal this afternoon.”
… the pain killers they inject sure work a lot better than they used to though. The numbness afterwards is annoying — don’t bite your tongue.
Anderson Cooper just wants to be loved- is that so wrong?
Tony, came back because I can’t leave without telling you how much I still love you.
nemo (Latin)
meaning Not any person: nobody, no one.
….. got that from one of my foreign movies too.
Figure that’s about how much my opinion is worth, after putting it out there for so long that
it became completely predictable.
…. what about you Champ?
Do you want to be loved like Anderson Cooper?
Missed you! Remember, you did appoint me as president of your fan club.
Craig,
I am sorry that you had to have emergency root canal surgery. I am also sorry that the Turk show will miss having you on board this time.
“Anderson Cooper just wants to be loved- is that so wrong?” -IXC
Looking for love in all the wrong places. I remember a big whoopdeedoo about AC. They were touting him as the natural successor to John Chancellor, or some actual journalist.
The market fell below 13,000 again.
Craig… ouch… it’s worth it to save a tooth, though.
nemo… welcome back…. stick around.
Watching CNN (with a few exceptions) is now like watching a train wreck. Haven’t watched it in a while. Even David Gergen started getting under my skin.
An interesting opinion piece on Obama and marriage rights for lesbians and gays
by Walter Shapiro
.
Looks like I will need to loosen the purse strings and spend some money for Caro’s new LBJ book
xrep
so is it time to get my “Dow at 10,000″ hat cleaned again?
Jack
Jack,
I hope not.
Nemo,
Love U…..98,97,96…………..i still don’t start at 100, or 99..?
Nemo,
…..can’t believe that I just stopped for a moment to see the T M, and found you here…..have to go, but will check in again later….later L and L……..
There seems to be a political fad of avoiding getting the job done. If one completes the job of say, making abortions illegal or defeating alqaeda, then the Christian right may abandon you. If you enforce laws against corporate criminality or greenhouse gases, then the lefties will go walkabout.
However, if you claim to be in favor of xyz, and never get xyz done, there is a possibility that you can keep your stupid contributors in thrall for decades. I think this started with the rippers claiming to be pro-fetus, but after awhile Dems like oh,bummer adapted the practice to their situations, too.
So who knew…clearly I have not been paying attention
In California — the winners of the primary are the top two vote getters regardless of party. In my district it just meant the real race was the primary — no Republican will win here ever.
I thought when they were talking about open primary it meant you could vote in either party without reregistering.
Gotta go baste the Mastadon.
Nemo spelled bacwards is Omen.
Pretty scary.
LOL
Ya know that may be one of the most politicaly insightful comments I’ve ever seen on this blog. xrep, you are on a roll.
Jack
here’s some more about our new primaries
This wouldn’t even be an issue if we didn’t have so many rigged up districts that are ez wins for one side or another
Jack, why don’t make your own index and say hell with the Dow?
Flatus, that is kinda what I’ve done with my poor little Ira. I pay a lot more attention to it than I do all these other numbers.
Jack
Nemo
I’ve got pictures on my camera but it seems I have limited time and haven’t published them yet.
someone else was also wondering about my garden they sent me a long email that I sent a reply to and it bounced because someone needs to clean out their mailbox }
Jack
Jack,
Sorry to hear that some very unlucky person didn’t receive your email, but I received a very nice one from you with no glitches (and thank you for that). Your email is one of the reasons I checked in to see how everyone is doing (although I do check in periodically whenever I can).
Hi Renee! ….and thank your for the welcome.
Solar,
I love you too, and think of you often
….. 95,94,93
““If you don’t read the newspaper, you’re uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you’re mis-informed.”
Mark Twain
As for the corporate media, never has so much useless information been foisted on so many by so few.
“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” Winston Churchill
Perhaps President Obama should take this to heart.
He has ample enemies, perhaps it’s time he earned them.
Craig,
Sorry to hear about the tooth.
When I check in at the dentist, the receptionist simply asks, “here for another root canal?”
Ouch!
Re: Cooper:
I think he pulled a kid out of the rubble in Haiti, so that should count for something. John Chancellor, Ellen DeGeneres… who am I to judge in whose footsteps he’d like to follow?
Nemo:
You don’t know me (looks left), and I wasn’t here (looks right).
Make sure no one else reads this.
…. and you don’t know me either.
Pretend I was never here.
That should be easy, because I’m ‘nobody’.
Love you all
The Dropkick Murphys (gotta love that name)
OK, I just told the wife, if she isists on having a funeral when I’m dead then she has to play this song
It is Amazing Grace,
Dear Mitt,
Thank you for your efforts on behalf of the American auto industry. Absent your advice and your invaluable in put, there can be little doubt that the entire industry and perhaps a million associated jobs might well have ceased to exist. Please accept our thanks.
By the way what position did you hold at that time?
jace
So when will Huff Po or any real news organization file a FOIA request for the voter registrations of the Domestic Terrorists arrested in Florida?
I bet that they were registered as Republicans. We all know how the Republican Fascist Nazi Party is the Party Of Death and would not really be a surprise if they were.
Have a great evening.
Republican Fascist Nazi Party calls for armed revolution if President Obama is re-elected.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/08/greene-county-virginia-gop-obama-revolution_n_1501510.html
As Sara Palin would say “don’t retreat, reload”.
War is coming to our streets and it may be sooner than we think. The Party Of Death wants to re-visit the Civil War again and this one will in no way resemble what happened in our country. In fact this will be worse and when we win there will be no mercy or compassion for these Traitors this time.
Lincoln made a mistake not executing them after the war and it got him killed. No mistakes should be made this time, we should make sure to execute every one of them.
Have a great evening. Goodnight.
MIDNIGHT AND ALLLL’S WELLLL!
I don’t know what happened to the Bill White-Bryan Eure wedding , that Imus didn’t perform the ceremony, but if Craig and David were really to be married by Imus, now that would be a wedding for the ages.
The Night Watchman of the Trail, DexterJohnson
Have a great evening yourself, Mr. Paranoid.
Why don’t those pantywaists at the NRA defend our right to keep and bear bombs ?
All those pastel, lace underwear, chardonnay sippers work for the firearms industry. They don’t care about the 2d Amendment, they just shill for gunmakers : It’s Big Gun ment.
I should have issued a satire alert with my last post. Sorry.
Thanks for the high compliment, Jack.
Indiana dumps lugar.
I remember back in the late 70s, he was a conservative republican, his election was a sign of the coming age of reagan. Now, the media calls him a moderate. He has been in lock step with his neighbor mcconnell and with frist and lott before that. Some moderate.
Anyway, he’s a lame vulture today.
Sweet Jesus I over came Word Press …….
http://craigcrawford.com/2012/05/08/is-there-a-blue-wall-video/#comment-288833
Nemo,
Love you too! So very good to see you! Wish you could be around sometimes too..Champ and now you, so good…Hope life is extra good for you! Just got home and so sorry i missed you earlier..
http://craigcrawford.com/2012/05/08/is-there-a-blue-wall-video/#comment-288840
Jack,
Thanks for the Shapiro piece, spot on!
Butter Fly Power.
Butter Fly Power.
I just spent a thousand dollars on my mother’s garden. Now I’m gonna spend $3000.00 more.
The last 2 days I dug-up another 24 lbs. of broken brick, iron chunks.
The “holly hock forest” is packed with bees, more than I have seen in years.
The poor old Cactus molted bricks into my garden for 2 decades. But after 5 years of work, my flower beds are deep and black. And I’m going 8-12 inches now to find a brick.
Tell me about “urban gardening sport”.
We start ‘Cactus Water Harvester’ next week.
It will be a thing of beauty.
Every part of my plan has worked, all of it . This is part where I may make a living.
The ‘Cactus Water Harvester’ on Buddy Holly Ave.
Oh ya.
The ‘Cactus Water Harvester’ on Buddy Holly Ave.
Classes available -- $250.00
You get a 71 gallon tank, and a manual. And you get to call me , and ask questions. And I’ll help you.
I bought 5 extra tanks just for this. Plus the big Australian “First Flush’ di-verters.
I teach you how to leave the water grid. In Lubbock. Under Stage II Water Restrictions.
Mine the miners.
We get to cut a new rock for my friend Tooter , he passed last night.
I’ll test some limestone i bought.
“Excuse me mam, we’re on a mission from God”.
Elwood Blues
Sax Volt
Listen to Bill Wyman join the song.
A thing of beauty.
I’m thinking about holding a funeral for “cool” .
Every part of my plan has worked, all of it .
alriiiiiight, CBob… you go!
so sorry about Tooter…
Jack… I heard a whole hour of an interview with Caro about his new LBJ book yesterday on the Diane Rehm Show.
What an enjoyable hour!
Champ… you do have a point about Cooper. I remember during his coverage of Katrina, walking up to black man sitting on a curb with his dog. Anderson asked him why he wasn’t in a shelter. The man said because they wouldn’t let his dog in and it was all he had left in this world. Anderson volunteered to take the dog and guaranteed he’d return it if the man went to the dome.
The man burst into tears and gave AC his dog. Anderson reported a couple weeks later that he did return the dog. I’ll always remember that about him.
He was kind when kindness was needed.
c’bob -- So sorry about your friend’s passing. Wishing you lots more butterflies & bees for your garden. (I have seen more bees this season, alive, so that’s a good thing.)
Likewise on your friend’s demise, Bob.
--
Katrina was Cooper’s finest moment. I agree that he set the standard for doing the right thing when he had the chance. Does that excuse him for being a mean spirited jerk now? Of course not.
CBob,
It appears as if you really have come to an understanding with Word Press. Somehow I think Our Gracious Host was part of the solution. Thank you.
Yesterday, we planted vegetables--mainly onions and tomatoes. Today I’m looking at the grass and wondering should I or shouldn’t I. If I’m lucky the heavy dark clouds will make the decision for me.
Flatus, assuming the weather cooperates and LP’s team doesn’t have to play too late on Sunday, I’ll be haying the back yard and putting in some root veggies and summer flowers this weekend.
Hi there Bobby Boy. Love the Solomon Burke!!!
The big news isn’t this, “North Carolina has become the 31st state to add an amendment on marriage to its constitution, with voters banning same-sex marriage and barring legal recognition of unmarried couples by state and local governments.” Anyone believing this amendment wouldn’t be approved banning same sex marriage must be smoking something. The bigger and more shocking story comes out of CO, a more liberal state. http://bit.ly/J70Naa
Flatus…
yeah… I really miss the days when CNN actually did the news… especially at 10pm with Aaron Brown.
Aaron Brown is currently the anchor of the PBS documentary series Wide Angle and an instructor at the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication at Arizona State University.
I wondered where he was
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-perel/john-edwards-courtroom-st_b_1499551.html?ref=john-edwards
from his own words, seems this nat’l enquirer editor ain’t no witnessing angel either. reader alert: this article drips with schadenfreude.
taegan’s quote of the day is clearest explanation yet for the mess we’re in.
http://www.indystar.com/article/20120508/NEWS0502/205080353/Indiana-Senate-Democrat-Donnelly-gears-up-Mourdock-tea-party
Mark my words -- the issue of gay marriage will not be fought over whether NC or CO can prevent the marriage of same sex individuals -- they certainly can. The issue will be fought over whether under the full faith and credit clause denial of rights to couples wed in a state where same sex marriage is legal can be denied equal protection in a state that does not allow same sex marriages.
The Tenth Circuit has waded in (albeit on a different, but related, issue) -- on the issue of recognition of birth certificates from other states for kids adopted by same sex couples, the parentage of the couples which was refused under an OKLA statute, which the court found unconstitutional.
“Because the Oklahoma statute at issue categorically rejects a class of out-of-state adoption decrees,it violates the Full Faith and Credit Clause.”
from Finstuen v. Crutcher, 10th Cir. 8/3/07
Marriage licenses and certificates registered in the county clerk’s offices and marriage registries of the states are also judgments and are similar in character to adoption certificates. This is likely where the battle will be fought since there is no way a same sex marriage amendment would clear Congress and there are not 67% of the states that would call for then ratify a same sex marriage amendment.
Pogo,
What does this say about West Virginia? How does a Texas Federal inmate even get on the West Virginia ballot? What is the hostility for Obama to vote for a Texas Federal inmate?
Prison Inmate Wins More than 40% of Democratic Vote Over President Obama in WV Primary
By Jake Tapper, May 9, 2012 10:13 AM
purp, answer to your “what is the hostility for obama” might be in the last paragraph of pogo’s link
pogo, if marriage is recognizable as a contract and the parties have contracting capacity in both states, where’s their argument?
my druthers would be for the state to only deal in civil unions, get out of the marriage business altogether and leave such metaphysical spiritual stuff up to the churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, covens and all those other ceremonious folk.
patd,
I just can’t believe that 49,490 people would vote in a “means nothing” primary election because they are passionate racist. You have to be passionate to vote in those elections.
Patd,
Exactly! The states do contracts with all of the rights and the religions use the word “marriage.” Simple!
“I just can’t believe that 49,490 people would vote in a “means nothing” primary election because they are passionate racist. You have to be passionate to vote in those elections.”
Purple, I thought that pat gave U a great answer, and right after thought the same thing: 50K people ….thats a lot of organizing of racist…that better not be true…or we are going backwards not forwards……
Orrrrr, they can all be named Tony, seen the light…recovering Democrats…..
purple,good for the economy too. 2 separate procedures for some folks would create more jobs. 2 more chances to shop for clothes (civil ceremony duds and religious garb). employ separate wedding planners, florists, cake bakers, caterers. put a magistrate as well as a priest/rabbi/imam to work. and think of the musicians and photographers!
Greetings from the desert:
Pogo, 2/3 of the states can call for a constitutional convention but then it takes 3/4 of the states to approve. Or, the Congress by a 2/3 vote can initiate an amendment with 3/4 of the states approving.
and two bachelor parties! make that 4 if you count the bride’s too
PiT,
Don’t get me started on WV -- I’m not from here and don’t plan to die here. I have to say that until yesterday I wasn’t even aware that the convict was on the ballot or was a convict. (but then again, I read WaPo, not our local rags). What that says is that 40% of WV hates Obama -- in the general election it will be 60%. WV is no longer a red state in national elections. State level down, yes, but so long as the president is painted as a lib’rul (or is black), WV won’t be along for the ride. Hell, we even have a Rep rep.
So …
Right to contract is s wholly different issue from equal protection and full faith and credit, but I like the angle.
Solar,
Great point about the organization required for a 42% vote.
The far right wing would like to bring us back to the early 1800s, not 1900s but 1800s.
This shows how truly third world and backward China is. And they own us.
Report: South Korean Officials Seize Shipment of Chinese Capsules Filled With Powdered Human Remains
By Jonathan Turley, May 7, 2012
Assuming that the 50K who voted for Judd are passionate is probably not a safe assumption any more than thinking the 60% who voted for Obama were passionate. And organization? Don’t make that assumption -- there wasn’t any. He just paid his filing fee and got on the ballot. The primary election in WV is much more about local races than about the pres. contest. Romney only got 70% of the can’t vote and 10 delegates, and Gingrich got 7 delegates, and he doesn’t even have a campaign any more. Romney at @77000 votes got @ 5000 more votes than the convict and @ 28000 fewer votes than Obama. So go figure…
I didn’t even see a campaign sign for Judd -- and you could build the great wall with the campaign signs around here.
Not sure you can call the 50K racist just because they voted for someone other than President Obama. If there were only 2 people to cast your vote for, and you knew one and were unhappy with their performance, would you vote for the other one, whether or not you knew anything about them or not. There are a lot of unsatisfied Dems and Moderates who will vote for anyone other the President because they don’t approve of his handling of the country.
I loves FactCheck.org, because it calls out both parties when athey are found taking excessive liberty with the facts.
We all like a free and open press, but aren’t there times when the press should be kept in the dark? Do they need to know everything, and who is releasing all the details. It’s great that Saudi Arabia was able to plant a mole inside al-Qaeda and have them believe he would wear the bomb, but don’t you think al-Qaeda will now change their operating procedure, strengthen their security procedures, change their base operation. If there was ever a time to DRONE someone this would have presented us a golden opportunity to take out the master bomb maker.
http://nyp.st/KMsCSY
No, the entire 50K are not likely racist ( and I didn’t say that they are), but I live here and I can attest that there are racists aplenty.
I think we should have a population reshuffle all the haters should live in one place
In California designating a town or place a “hate free zone” is very popular. I think some places could call themselves “land of the haters” or “hate zone” — it would be very useful information for everyone.
The Chinese eat dead babies! Auuuggghhh! It’s a hip new twist on blood libel!
How do you unload a truckful of dead babies? No, not with a pitchfork; with a customs agent!
There are racists aplenty all over. WV is no different. However, a huge % of people in WV work for the coal companies, or serve coal companies and their employees. These people believe that oh,bummer is extremely anti-coal and pro-environment. That belief is founded on ripper propaganda that wildly exaggerates the oh,bummer positions -- unfortunately.
IMO. the 50k votes cast against oh,bummer in the worthless primary is more about coal and environmentalism than it is about race.
Know how to make a dead baby float?
2 scoops of vanilla ice cream, milk, a maraschino cherry, and 2 ethnic-South-Korean Chinese dead baby capsules!
oh,bummer just backed gay marriage.
I guess he decided that he won’t need NC after all.
Anyone for race war ?
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/08/11601679-white-supremacists-accused-of-planning-for-race-war-in-florida?lite
Vidal Sassoon died.
Ignoble exChamp,
As Jonathan Turley said:
It is widely speculated that the President will come out for gay marriage but not until after the election. But what if he doesn’t get elected, wouldn’t that lack of conviction even further alienate the gay base. And if he should be reelected what does it say about him staying mum on the topic? What is holding him back from endorsing gay marriage NOW?
Racism knows no color. Anyone at any time can be perceived as a racist. All depends on who is doing the judging.
Movingon,
Ever since I read Robert Fitch’s Speech to the Harlem Tenants Association from November 14, 2008 I am some what skeptical of FactCheck.org -- Annenberg Political Fact Check.
Purple,
These were the reasons that I originally did not trust Obama….his Minister, the way he acquired his home in hyde park……and that also goes for his wife that sat making money on several boards….
Romney and Obama went to different schools together no?
Well the President came out today for gay marriage. It took him long enough, but better late than never.
Of course the one time Romney should have flip flopped, he decided to back one man one woman for all that procreation stuff we need so much more of.
It is long overdue for Obama to finally support marriage equality…
john oliver on daily show tuesday night talked about obama supporting gay marriage in 1996 (in writing) juxtaposed to his “evolving” statementof recent past. [note this comes towards end of routine]
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-may-8-2012/rainbow-disconnection—obama-s-evolving-views-on-gay-marriage
wonder how john and jon will handle the newest evolution.
So Tony, did he win you back ?
od, according to that signed 1996 document that the windy city times reported on in 2009, he did support gay marriage.
wonder how that 1996 document and the 2009 outing was able to stay in the closet until the night before the prez’s latest evolution.
the back story of it coming to daily show’s attention must be fascinating re the who’s and when’s details.
more background on above mystery from a 2011 mediaite article
http://www.mediaite.com/online/final-answer-president-obama-did-fill-out-1996-questionnaire-supporting-gay-marriage/
Solar, to answer your question -- yes!
The Chicago FIRE and the Friendly FIRE saw a potential politician with his gifts, the brilliant an aura that it’s almost blinding; his writing talent; his eloquence; his charisma. What a perfect con man.
Yes, Mitt $omey believes that marriage is between a man and a woman and a woman and a woman and a woman.
After all he is a Mormon isn’t he?
Have a great evening.
It’s no big big deal what he thought decades back. This isn’t exactly “What did the President know, and when did he know it ?” is it ?
Mr. Paranoid, you have a deliciously wicked sense of humor.
Queer Talk: Obama Evolves, Comes Out for Marriage Equality
by Joyce Arnold
http://craigcrawford.com/2012/05/08/is-there-a-blue-wall-video/#comment-288947
Ha X
Nope! I am proud of President Obama though! It took courage to some degree to come out in favor of marriage equality..I agree with Joyce above it was all a political judgement on the Presidents part but still no Republican President would ever do what President Obama did today..I will vote in November on the bigger picture for this country and myself..The ole Reagan question am i better off than i was 4 years ago will way heavily..Of course the president rose several notches in my book today..
one usually prefers one’s moo shu pork stirred, not shaken
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/09/11616824-piglets-twirled-pigs-kicked-by-farm-workers-activist-video-shows?pc=25&sp=25
Pat,
Thanks for all the good links…
You are a Trail Mix treasure!
Tonyb…
This links for you and anyone else who cares to read it.
http://www.equalitygiving.org/Accomplishments-by-the-Administration-and-Congress-on-LGBT-Equality
Have a great evening.
Tonyb…
The above link is from this post linked below at Balloon Juice.
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/05/09/glad-to-see-i-didnt-miss-anything-big-today/
Have a great evening.
Another good post on Divorce Rates among Christians vs Atheists and Agnostics.
By the way its noted in the post that “American Hindus have the lowest divorce rate in the country at 5%”.
Boy oh boy……….Almost forgot the link. Thanks for the edit button Craig.
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/5/9/195344/3248
Have a great evening.
Anon,
Thanks so much for the terrific links…While this President deserves credit for ending DADT and finally ending his revolving stance on marriage equality, he is NOT the fierce gay advocate he promised he would be! As i said earlier President Obama has done something no Republican would ever do! Still measuring A Democrat President up against a Republican on gay rights, well anything would be better than Repugs..This comment from the link you provided speaks perfectly for me..
I accidentally clicked thumbs up on my own post and do not know how to reverse it…
jace says:
05/08/2012 at 8:44 PM
“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” Winston Churchill
Perhaps President Obama should take this to heart.
He has ample enemies, perhaps it’s time he earned them.
I guess he earned some of them today. Good on him!
Far better I think to stand for something and risk losing everything, than to stand for nothing and win everything. For the latter we have Mitt.