As we wait to see if or when Europe suits up for another Middle Ages partisans on our shores watch it through the prism of this election year’s central economic debate: Can more public spending save an economy?
Opposing sides of this quarrel see very different reasons for Europe’s troubles.
“Austerity: savage spending cuts in an attempt to reassure bond markets. Yet as any sensible economist could have told you (and we did, we did), these cuts deepened the depression in Europe’s troubled economies, which both further undermined investor confidence and led to growing political instability.”
“Workers across the Continent want great lifestyles without long work hours. They want dynamic capitalism but also personal security. European welfare states go broke trying to deliver these impossibilities.”
“Re-makes and Re-hashes”
Terry Gilliam nails Hollywood (and beyond?). The film maker and former Monty Python member says it is tougher than ever to get studio backing for creative movies:
“The longer you keep churning out this production-line crap, the more audiences are going to like it—and need it. There’s an element of security provided by re-makes and re-hashes. We’re at the stage where audiences just want to know that everything will be the same. Maybe it’sbecause the world has become so diffused and unclear that people just want to go back to what they know over and over again. People need to reassure themselves that Spider-Man can still do the things he’s always done.” –The Economist
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Woo Hoo
If you want government to do good things, you have to pay for it. Small government only works with small mutually dependent populations.
Interesting Gallup figures that make me feel young: Obama leads with everyone except old white people.
Guess that makes me a young white people.
So basically we should all be listening to Terry Gilliam? I am totally down with that.
Exactly, Julia
yeah… but… Terry Gilliam was right about television being bad for your eyes…
“Fed up with an inept and self-destructive GOP apparatus in Nevada, the Republican National Committee and the Mitt Romney campaign have decided to erect a ‘shadow state party’ in this critical swing state,” Jon Ralston reports. -- From Taegan Goddard’s blog
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The old guard will claim that the Mormon Mafia is taking over the NV Repugnican Party and kicking out the Christians.
There are 112 major English language remakes of A Christmas Carol. This year there shall be 5 more. This compares favorably with the mere 27 versions of Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer.
Hollywood doesn’t need to hire new writers or pay for new, high priced scripts, if it just keeps refilming the same old shit. It doesn’t need to pay royalties.
And, it doesn’t have to spend money to acqaint the public with a new brand, if it just keeps churning out Rocky or 007 films .
I think my fellow Minnesotan is correct. People are resigned to everything in their physical realms being turned to shit. But, they want to know that their dreams are still cheery (xcept for the goths & emos, of course).
So the public desire meets Hollywood stinginess halfway.
Btw, Gilliam’s Brazil is one of the greatest political satires of all times.
Great catch RR. Gilliam’s animations were genius
Randy and I were sitting on the lawn last evening bemoaning the end of some of our favourite shows, some after long runs (House) others that only had a season’s chance to survive (Harry’s Law -- a terrific David E. Kellie courtroom dramedy, Awake -- a terrific ‘otherwordly’ scripted drama). What these cancellations are going to leave is night after night of ‘reality’ tv. Crappy competition shows, truckers/fishermen/motorcycle builders/family screaming matches. Take a look at the shows that have been axed this year — has nothing to do with ratings and everything to do with $$$. “Reality” tv is cheap to produce and makes TONS of money. But we are the worse for it. Oh, but then a show like Sherlock or Downton Abbey comes along and we rejoice. Unfortunately, those shows are not being made in North America.
not Gilliam’s but one of my fav Python sketches:
More on their official YouTube site
Ah, Tylenol…between the garbage that is reality TV and our current political reality, can the Hunger Games be far from their own reality???
“Dennis, there’s some lovely filth down here…!”
One of my favorite lines ever.
I used to know a guy who wrote scripts for reality shows. Only in the phantasmagoria of tv & movies can reality be scripted.
Jeremy Brett was the real Sherlock Holmes. All of the others are merely actors.
I thought so too, x, but this Sherlock is just amazing. Well acted, well written and a London that looks exciting and alive. SO very good, and I say that as a big-time Jeremy Brett fan.
Even in tv, we are the 99%.
See, I was a huge fan of Basil Rathbone and thought Jeremy Brett did a brilliant job of recreating for the small screen the character Rathbone created for the large one (well, recreated from the Doyle written words.) They used to screen the Sherlock Homes movies Rathbone did on Saturday afternoons when I was a kid -- I absolutely loved them -- after watching Sky King, Steve Canyon and Roy Rogers in the morning and Sherlock Holmes in the afternoon, I was up to my eyeballs in heroes by evening.
Ty, what Holmes show are you referring to? I may need to update my Tivo.
Cumberbatch is doing a great job on the modern update of Holmes. PBS and BBC America are becoming the only source of intelligent television.
Tylenol,
The actors on Sherlock are excellent. The writing is wry and funny, and the cinematography is interesting, even though cheap. However, the editing is so fast that it makes David Lean’s movies seem as slow paced as Satyajit Ray’s. Slight exaggeration, but frenetic is not too strong a word for it.
PBS & BBC America are the only sources of intelligent television south of the border.
500 channels and 499 of them are crap. I mean a night long orgy of Chariots of the Gods baloney on the History Channel???
Brooks and Krugman are both correct. It’s just a matter of timing. Now it’s Krugman’s time. When people are over 70 and can’t physically work any more, then it’s Brooks’s.
the guardian’s natalie haynes on holmeses
http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2012/may/14/tv-detectives-sherlock-holmes
I see that I am going to have to get the Brett Sherlock DVDs and see what I’ve missed. I have to admit that much as I loved the Rathbone Holmes, when I read the complete collection in college (and again last year) I became aware of those aspects of Holmes that went untouched in the older movie portrayals. I don’t recall Rathbone’s Holmes shooting up a single time or Watson mentioning it. Faced with all this evidence of excellent Holmes actors, I’ll have to see this before I can even declare my opinion.
I loved Basil Rathbone in Robin Hood and Captain Blood.
Basil Rathbone’s Hound of the Baskervilles was wonderful, and I thought it was definitive, until Brett.
I saw a couple of pre-Rathbone Sherlocks, but they seemed indifferent, although the baddies were truly brainy/creepy. For example, A Study in Scarlet 1933 : Reginald Owen outsmarts Anna May Wong ? You’ve got to be kidding !
Pogo,
Brett fell fatally ill, and was unable to complete the Sherlock Holmes project. The last two Holmes stories were filmed largely without him.
Needless to say, they are jarring to watch.
flatus, great idea. our gracious host writes as entertainingly as hiaasen and as (if not more) eruditely as brooks. he should have a column as well as a pundit gig.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/buffetts-berkshire-buy-media-general-124240186.html
pogo, problem with the new holmes and watson is their youth. guess i’m too used to the gravity bestowed by age for these wonderful characters. if linked right, here’s a short piece on the new guys.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/sherlock/
Re: Sherlocks -- The newest version is indeed frenetic but I really like that! I *have* to pay attention, and the dialogue is so fast! I’m laughing at one part and I miss another. I just ordered the first 3 of the new Sherlocks and I’m really looking forward to watching it with the commentaries. Pogo, the Jeremy Brett series are wonderful and faithful to London at the time. And X is right, Brett was indeed very ill at the end, and the last 6 he does *not* look well. The newest Sherlock is from BBC, updated, modern London, and I was prepared to hate it, but my goodness, I have found my new favourite. I enjoy every frame of it.
BBC PBS and CBC (Canadian Broadcasting make excellent programs, all the while under attack by table-thumping right wingers who call them `state broadcasters.` For my money, they`re all gems.
That leaves thirty-nine masterpieces.
Patd, Flatus — Ha, there you go again tryin to make me work for a livin. You sound like David. I just want to be a lazy househusband. Making him a delicious roast in clay pot with veggies and garlic right now.
pogo, on that previous link, play the video of moffat on holmes and watson. here’s another try at the video link
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/sherlock/#
craig, who says you can’t email a column in from the fishcamp deck once a season? in between times you can sell bait, beer and brats.
It’s not just BBC. ITV, East Anglia, and other for-profit and regional public broadcasters in the UK have made wonderful shows.
The Irish have made some beauties also, Ballykissangel being the most famous.
But for news, the BBC ia hard to beat.
If you really want to impress David, bring the clay pot to the dining table and, over the serving plate, carefully smash the pot with a wooden mallet. Serve with a great burgundy.
If you need Warren’s address, let me know. And, I’ve given you your first story line.
gosh no, flatus. my clay pot my most prized possession — 15 years of seasoning!
we should do a radio chat this weekend. who’s up for it, and when?
My own favorite bete noir of current economic argument is cutting funding to schools. Let’s see: Brilliant young woman can get degree in finance or law, a nice clean corner office, association with intelligent adults and a 100K+ salary or she can get a degree in education and spend 60+ hours a week either in the company of 40 ill raised brats or preparing to face them while being hammered by parents and officials for the poor job she is doing to earn less than 50K. Then they cut the legs out from under her by slashing her budget so she can buy her own supplies while having no way to motivate those in her charge because all the art, music, and most of the science programs are gone.
Of course she chooses teaching.
Priorities USA website
http://www.romneyeconomics.com
Craig,
The choice of cheerful househusband? Next thing we know you will be voting for Romney. Do you have a horse?
Craig,
Is your clay pot a Roemerkopf ?
I have one that I’ve never used.
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Yes it is xrepub. Use it! Funny how humans really havent found a better cooking pot than what we used thousands of years ago. Comforting, somehow.
And never clean it with detergent, ever! Let it absorb the years of seasoning, just gets better and better.
Best thing is you can cook a $10 3lb rump roast, like I am now, and it tastes like filet mignon (brown it quickly in hot oil first to seal juices). And of course surround with onion, celery, carrots, mushrooms, sliced fresh garlic, topped with parsley plus lemon pepper, salt seasoning
Dahn fah darahdio…will be playing from 4 to 7, will call in after 2nd mustang sally.
working a joint out on the savannah highway…will be a shock to the system, being a whole nother neck of the woods removed from the usual and standard friday night passage of the sally with us, the mighty crabs of joy….don’t matter….everybody likes old shit.
we were so much more adept at dredging up old shit to play before the bass player zoned out. that’s god’s sense of humor, i suppose…take a master musician and fix him so’s it’s all he can do to look out the window.
Now there’s a venue: Craig Crawford appears on Rachel Raye or The Chew
Oops, forgot small potatoes. Very important.
Fox News: Our whole gig is an attempt to influence main stream media, and through them everyone who is not yet a dreadfully certain tea-partiest…..which as usual, eludes our grasp.
I think God’s going to come down and pull
civilization over for speeding.
--Steven Wright
and small potatoes……are no small potatoes.
Never heard of roemerkopf…. but I googled it and found some on Amazon. Very interesting pot.
Craig… if you do a radio chat tomorrow I will try to call in. Very busy day…. as Rick and I are leaving for vacation on Cape Cod Sunday.
Sturg….
one potato, two potato, three potato, four…
five potato, six potato, seven potato, more.
Three-six-nine, the goose drank wine, the monkey chewed tobacco on the street car line…..the line broke, the monkey got choked, and they all went to heaven in a little row-boat.
Betty Ann is still chanting and holding one end of that jump rope…..
Shirley Ellis took that bit of jump-rope whimsy and had a nice little hit with it.
I just can’t help stop saying, over and over, like I’m in a sick trance….
IF WE ALL DESCRIBE THIS AS THE GREAT DEPRESSION THEN WHY DON’T WE TALK ABOUT THE GREAT DEPRESSION?
Why doesn’t the big public media ever remind us that to get out of the Great Depression…WE!
Between 1940-80 the wealthiest Americans paid between 70% to 90% federal income tax and that’s what allowed us to build the American Dream. How else could we afford it? Between 1940-80 we fought and paid for WWII, Korean War, Vietnam War, we built our US Interstate Expressway system, Roads, Electrical Grid, Telephone, our main Bridges and Tunnels; we Made every Car we Drove and we wore just the Clothes we Sewed and WE WENT TO THE MOON SIX TIMES-AND WE PAID FOR IT ALL! Here’s the link. Go to section 21.5 and Get out ye encyclopedias… TRUTH:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States#1930_-_1980
Keep an eye on these guys. Can you say dangerous unless you are an old white wealthy oligarch hoping to stay that way.
http://www.spn.org/
Awake was my favorite new show this year…wish a cable network would pick it up for next season…
And the right wing Christo Crazies scared GCB off the air. ABC went all wet noodle over the idea that the prejudiced resented being accurately portrayed.
I’m sorry that I missed your reply, Craig. Okay, now you have made me brave enough to use the clay pot.
Did you ever use it in a charcoal grill ? It’s going to be in the 90s here for a few days, and I’d rather not heat the house.
I see that I wrote Roemerkopf. That should be Roemertopf. Roemer is German for Roman. It’s German not Roman. Kopf means head in German, while topf means pot. There is a head wearing a Roman helmet on the box. Was writing Roemerkopf a subconscious transposition ? I wouldn’t put it past me.
If anyone on the east coast wants a puppy, I’ll give you one for free! I found two females on the highway, and they now have all their shots, but need to be spayed. They are both adorable and are learning commands like “sit”, “down”, and “roll over”.
If you live anywhere near I-81 or I-95, I’ll even deliver, regardless of political affiliation! Post reply in comments section if interested.
So, thanks, Craig. As soon as the weather changes, I’ll soak the pot, put in a pot roast, and pop it in the oven.
If you have the financial means and a good home, I’ll even give you both puppies for free! I’d like to keep them together as sisters, but a home is a home. I realize this forum is a shot in the dark, and I am asking all around town, also, so don’t miss this fantastic deal! Free puppies, yay!
http://craigcrawford.com/2012/05/18/the-big-government-debate-once-more-with-feeling/#comment-289620
Jamie,
Man, sorry GCB got cancelled! Loved that show, it was a delicious pleasure! ABC, wow afraid of the right wingers
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rr, xr and craig
loved more for the idea and beauty of them sitting in the kitchen are what i call my dummkopf pots: the roemertopf (which btw does a succulent cheap pork roasted in sauerkraut) and the rumtopf (which does a fab tutti-frutti via either rum or brandy) see info at
http://livinghomegrown.com/2008/08/preserving-summ.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/chen-guangcheng-leaves-beijing-hospital-headed-for-us/2012/05/19/gIQApKMEaU_story.html?hpid=z1
bet the g8 meeting at camp david and the nato coming up in chicago prompted the timing of his release. good cover amid the distractions.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57436798-503544/g8-summit-will-be-largest-world-leader-gathering-at-camp-david/
Craig,
I’m up for a chat, pick a time.
Good morning, to weigh-in on the topic…the government has to step in to fund the economy because they failed to prosecute the out-of-control gamblers who lost our houses, retirement money, savings accounts, stock, etc. The government has the police power. We are all paying the price for the gamblers and now the gamblers are insecure and do not want to gamble with the money they are sitting on. Morgan can lose $2 billion. Corsine loses billions. And it is the lowly humans who are blamed for their entitlements of old age they have fed for a lifetime. I want my money back and all I have is My Uncle Sam.
No business large or small is going to hire people until there is a demand for what they are producing or selling. Altruism is not part of their business model
The job creators are the people who purchase those goods and services.
With the price of everyday necessities continuing to rise there is less and less money available to buy additional goods and services.
Tax breaks have not and will not spur job growth, there may well come a time for austerity, but that time is not now. The economy needs those public sector jobs that have been lost over the last few years.
dana milbank:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/boehners-debt-sword--at-the-ready/2012/05/18/gIQAVTUhYU_story.html?hpid=z2
http://www.salon.com/2012/05/18/corporate_criminals_gone_wild/singleton/
“Ferguson’s glowering rage spares neither political party. Clinton gets the blame for completing the process of financial sector deregulation, and George W. Bush is lacerated for his general incompetence. But Barack Obama is showered with a particularly aggrieved contempt. Obama, writes Ferguson, came into office with more hope invested in him than in any recent leader, and then proceeded to “betray” and “screw” his supporters by declining to bring Wall Street to account for its misdeeds.”
This morning I opened the Journal and there was Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau’s obituary. Unlike Karajan, he wasn’t a nazi. He was simply a conscript who at the age of 18 was sent to the Russian front. That was in ’43. The obit says one of his jobs was calming the Army horses be singing to them. If it works in Texas…
Here’s him doing part of Mahler’s Song of a Wayfarer. XR, check the conductor.
One of the vinyls I treasure is a collaboration done by Fischer-Dieskau and Schwarzkopf and De los Angeles in tribute to accompanist Gerald Moore. I’ll see if I can find something from it.
Count me among those who think Jeremy Brett was the Sherlock Holmes--
the worst one I ever saw was a made for TV monstrosity with Matt Frewer as Holmes. Max Headroom does not a Holmes make--just sayin’--
Flatus, I saw Fischer-Dieskau’s obit on FB either yesterday or day before--my man Hampson posted it--Fischer-Dieskau was apparently one of his favorites--He certainly had a marvelous voice--
Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau
beautiful voice. those horses must have been damned calm after his lullabies. wonder if that had something to do with the russian front outcome.
thanks, flatus, for sharing.
I loved his Mahler, especially. But, he was best know for his German lieder--Schubert, Schuman, et alia.
I’m not one who carries thousands of recordings with me--more like a couple of hundred of which maybe fifty are old, cherished friends.
a little more upbeat
Flatus,
Thanks for the Dieskau/ Mahler.
My God what a song and what singing.
Patd,
Thanks for the Dieskau clips. I loved the Beethoven.
You and Flatus are making it tough to come up with anything for Sunday Sublime.
Fussing with genealogy today and reading the year book for my father’s 1933 graduation year book for Fremont HS in Los Angeles. The student to teacher ratio, classes offered, and the fact that students were expected to all graduate able to function in society is downright depressing compared to high schools today. Social Studies Department: Social Studies, World History, US History, Civics, Economic Geography, and Social problems.
OMG!!! He did it!!!
Unbelievable! I love it when one of the ponies has a shot at the Triple crown!
Hooray for I’ll Have Another!!!
I may have to open the betting parlor for The Belmont Stakes in three weeks.
Jamie…Thanks for sharing your ride! I assume we’ll be riding together on I’ll Have Another when he goes for the Triple Crown!
HW
Absolutely!!
Queer Talk: NAACP Passes Resolution in Support of Marriage Equality
by Joyce Arnold
Recognized the face but couldn’t remember the name -- black politician moderate or conservative in a PSA talking about “Teachers have to realize that if we want to afford a longer school year then employee costs must come down”. What does the ass want: Teachers to donate their time for the privilege of educating our lovely young? Sheesh!
The voice of experience says teachers already donate their time…and lots of it!
The Original Certified Santa Rosa Farmers Market got into a fight with its landlord Sonoma County Parks Dept when they tried to raise the rent from 4,000 to 58,000 and that is for a parking lot twice a week for 3 hours each time
While the market was negotiating in good faith the assholes in the parks dept and I do mean assholes were secretly negotiating with a dilettante hobby farmer who had been thrown out of the market for massive labor violations who agreed to pay the massive increase because he had been terminated for cause as a vendor.
Anyway the upshot was after 44 years at the same location the market had to move. And the county tried to bring in this turd managing a new market
The old market ended up in a great location and today had a record day.
The new market at the old location is probably going to fail and the county will have nothing
Karma
It sounds like the g8 is going to subscribe to government intervention or the Obamarama plan
the new folks aren’t like the old ones and believe in the Krugman plan
KGC,
Regarding your 8:56 PM. Sometimes there is an irony to unintended consequences that is both delicious and beautiful.
I hope that the farmers market in the new location continues to do well, really, really, well.
Jamie says: 05/18/2012 at 8:49 PM
Keep an eye on these guys. Can you say dangerous unless you are an old white wealthy oligarch hoping to stay that way. http://www.spn.org/
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They list the the head of the MN ‘free enterprise think tank’ as mitch pearlstein, a ’60s communist, who admits that he took orders from Moscow. pearlstein, like the koch family, worked for stalin and then infiltrated the ripper party. The kochs did it in the late ’50s; mitch waited until the early ’90s. I say, the paymaster had disappeared.
mitch’s ‘think tank’ is the unimpressive Center for the American Experiment. Their schtick is to blame poor people for being poor. It’s all about personal habits.
As if a wretched single mother of 4 were to wake up one morning and decide to mend her ways : “Today I’m going to be the heir of the koch oil, toilet paper, and bullshit empire. Today I’ll inherit B!LL!ONS ! ” Yessiree, that’s the kind of habit that lifts people from poverty. Yes, indeed. Yup.
Flatus,
Thanks for the Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau recording. I’ve noticed lately that I haven’t heard DF-D on the radio in ages, and wondered what was up. I mostly associate him with Shubert and Schuman lieder.
Some horses have all the luck.
We lost our pick-up , 6 weeks ago. It blew a head gasket.
Today, we got a Swiss Watch ,for $1,100.
1. rippers are the problem, with way off base Congereel west as the lead off batterer. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/lets-just-say-it-the-republicans-are-the-problem/2012/04/27/gIQAxCVUlT_story.html
2. rippers are more ‘polarizing’than Dems : http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/the-republicans-elephant-in-the-room-themselves/2012/05/11/gIQAZEo7IU_story.html
3. Major newspapers numerous mentions of Mann and Orenstien in the year before their major study :
http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/mann-ornstein-42911-42912-1a.jpg
4. Major newspapers references to Mann and Orenstein April 29th study major study : http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/mann-ornstein-43012-51712.jpg
Looks like the republican media elites are stonewalling on this important information.
Hey Gang…
Rick and I are heading out for a vacation on Cape Cod Massachusetts in a few hours. We’ll be back next weekend. Until then everyone take care and play nice.
OSH… we’re still planning on coming over on the Island Queen on Friday. We’ll give you a call on Weds. or Thurs.
renee, bon voyage but watch out thursday for alberto
http://www.weather.com/weather/hurricanecentral/storms/2012/Alberto
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for renee and rick and a happy week of la mer
The Choice for Romney is Liz Cheney
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Sunday Sublime.
Longer than usual, but worth every minute. For lovers of ‘Carmen’. Enjoy!
Campbell Brown is the poster child for media condescension. She oozes superiority and patronization from every pore.
President Obama should stop being condescending to women?
Give me a break lady!
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When it comes to Campbell Brown I think “former CNN and ABC news anchor” pretty well covers it. She’s not exactly the most perceptive person.
Politico Article
Reich: Wall Street’s immorality crux of crisis
Robert Reich
This quote from the Campbell Brown piece, what a joke! I mean really she goes after the President on such nonsense and totally overlooks the Romney/Republicans war on women! I’ve listened to her husband a Romney adviser, so it all makes sense now…
Man who had 30 kids with 11 women wants child-support break
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McManus: A campaign bombshell
If the court upholds the healthcare reform law, the president wins; if it declares the law unconstitutional, he loses. Right? Well, not so fast.
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-05-10/politics/31642067_1_mike-huckabee-ohio-senator-rob-portman-arkansas-governor
take it from me the psychic (she who picked the winning 3 in the preakness -- so it was in reverse order, close enough) huckster will be the veep nominee for rominee
more evidence of a mitt ‘n mike show
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/17/mike-huckabee-citizens-united-mailer_n_1524400.html
being mentioned in the mormon newspaper helps and alerts the base
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865555837/Mike-Huckabee-If-President-Obama-can-invoke-the-Lords-name-why-cant-I.html
Hey I picked the winning 3 in the right order. Can I hold the envelope to my forehead for instant wealth and notoriety?
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jamie, congratulations. hope you actually made a money bet and are on a roll to the triple crown.
reader alert: nasty snarks herein
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/20/curl-hillary-clinton-iwilli-be-the-2012-veep-candi/
what’s with the conservatives new program to put hillary on the ballot in place of joe? here’s little billy kristol:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/05/kristol-stirs-the-pot-on-biden-calls-for-a-hillary-123962.html
patd
I bet a whole $22 on winner, exacta, and trifecta and won total of $60. Unlike hitting on the Derby, the odds this time were too low to do much. Now I have to look at the Belmont to see who is likely to come in.
Campbell Brown is right women do not want to be treated as wards of the state…the argument against Romney who would allow the state to interfere in the private relationship between a woman and her doctor
she is just practicing the gooper big lie technique combined with Lylism — where no facts are required
she is an idiot and married to one as well
the conservatives don’t have anything else to say so they are trying to make trouble. Replace Biden with Clinton big ginormous yawn not even a new idea let alone one that is NOT going to happen
they would rather talk about anything but the facts of the campaign because their candidate sucks
patd
There is a certain desperation in all of the right wing. They know they have gone too far. There may be a minuscule chance of a GOP win because of the electoral college. States under possibly fraudulent GOP control may be in play that really shouldn’t be. I actually believe that both parties are going through the motions to try to appear relavant by making it look as if there is a horse race so they can continue to rake in cash without actually doing anything of value for the American public.
Robin Gibbs has died. Not unexpected but still sad. RIP
It really is the end of disco
The goopers haven’t learned anything
Romney is just Shrub all over again a rich guy maybe a little smarter but since he has zero charm his smarts don’t help him much
Dan Senor all those guys just pre-ownd Shrub stuff
yuck
Yes by all means put the Huckster on the ticket, and watch the gender gap rise by an additional 5 to 7 points.
Come on Mitt, cowboy up and do it.
Jamie,
good job on the trifecta, can you give us any insight on Penn. Florida and Ohio?
Campbell Brown has sunk into the mire of R-ness since marrying Dan Senor…no longer relevant or believable as a political commentator of any stripe….
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court-faces-pressure-to-reconsider-citizens-united-ruling/2012/05/20/gIQAOdoqdU_story.html?hpid=z3
also from above link on reconsidering citizens united:
Mitt can’t put the Huckster on the ticket -
it would revive all the dog talk…the Huckster has a son who is a dog killer and a gun nut…well the gun nut part might be helpful but the dog killing not so much
NYT has a succinct editorial on the ‘can’ts’ WOW.
http://tinyurl.com/cym5zsx
There’s teh side reference down in the piece about Scott Walker’s own WoW (war or workers). Entirely created by the Dems? Who you gonna believe, Boner or your lying eyes?
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