What is it about the Bush tax cuts that make Democrats act so foolish? They blather on about ending them, but then don’t. If you don’t have the gumption to get it done just quit talking about it.

Senate Democratic leaders are politically paralyzed on how to proceed on the Bush-era tax rates. … Democratic leaders maintain they are content to play defense, but are worried that some vulnerable Democrats might defect and support a temporary extension of all the Bush-era rates, which would undercut their negotiating position. … Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has no immediate plans to advance a bill allowing Bush-era tax rates for the wealthy to expire, and instead will let House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) move first. — The Hill

 

58 Responses to Democrats Paralyzed Again

  1. patd says:

    Republicans are aggressively pushing to renew all the Bush tax cuts again, and attacking Democrats for risking — or even threatening — a major tax increase. At the same time they’re pushing to roll back defense spending cuts baked into existing law, and replace them with cuts elsewhere in the budget. But the so-called defense sequester is a huge source of leverage Dems can use to force Republicans to get real on taxes. So of course Republicans are accusing Dems them of inviting a huge national security risk.

    Merkley says Dems should weather those attacks.

    “I’m encouraging my team to realize we have lots of leverage on this,” he explained. “This is not a situation where you go to the table and you’re desperate to get a deal. Republicans are concerned about the [automatic] defense cuts. I personally feel that there’s probably a fair amount of defense cuts that are absolutely needed. But that goes to my view that we’re spending too much money overseas and too little on infrastructure and too little on education. The moment that January 1 comes, there’s kind of a hall pass granted to Republican legislators because now more modest changes than the Bush cuts are ones that are still tax breaks to the status quo. So that also gives some room for them to honor their pledge, if you will, and still work towards a reasonable ground on this.”

    Conservative activists recognize that risk. And to guard against it, anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist is warning Republicans to hold fast and accept nothing less than full extension of existing taxes.

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/bush-tax-cuts-jeff-merkley-grover-norquist.php

  2. patd says:

    A nice article about our Emmy
    http://marthasvineyard.patch.com/articles/islander-wins-all-american-sailor-for-second-year

    sea, momma must be proud. emily is beautiful. and evidently a very good sailor.

  3. patd says:

    proud mama

  4. Tonyb says:

    Kathleen,
    Beautiful piece on Emmy..Beautiful girl as well..Amazing sailor and its nice she’s doing what she loves…

  5. Tonyb says:

    Jeb Bush Carts Out Reagan to Club Republicans
    by Taylor Marsh

    “I’m still amazed Republicans continue to ignore Ronald Reagan’s collapse on conservative economics, moving to large tax increases, at the same time Iran-Contra unfolded under his nose. It’s an an impeachable offense if he were a Democrat.

    However, what’s astounding is who Jeb Bush blames for the lack of “common ground.” You guessed it, Pres. Obama:

    “His first year could have been a year of enormous accomplishment had he focused on things where there was more common ground,” he said, arguing that Obama had made a “purely political calculation” to run a sharply partisan administration.”

  6. Katherine Graham Cracker says:

    What is it about the Bush tax cuts that make Democrats act so foolish? They blather on about ending them, but then don’t.

    cc

    maybe it’s because the democrats in questions are all beneficiaries of the shrubian tax cuts

  7. jace says:

    Oldsea,
    Thanks for posting that article.

    Emily, good on you, and good luck to you! Smile

  8. whskyjack says:

    “No servant can serve two masters, because either he will hate one and love the other, or be loyal to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and wealth!”
    Luke 16:13

    Amazing the wisdom you can find in the bible.
    I believe we found the answer, our congress critters are trying to serve 2 masters. I think at this time when it comes to a choice between the American people and money we know what their real choice is.

    Jack

  9. jace says:

    I wasn’t aware that paralysis was a by-product of castration. Dems. teach me something new every day.
    Not all of it good. Neutral

  10. whskyjack says:

    OSH

    Good article, thanks for sharing.
    Send my congradulations to Emily. So she is going to Chicago…
    Sound interesting.

    Jack

  11. jace says:

    If all these super pac billionaires would just step up and offer to pick up the tab for Iraq and Afghanistan
    then perhaps we could talk about the tax cuts. What do you say Karl? Confused

  12. patd says:

    tony, thanks for posting that “gaffe” video. too bad the real story isn’t being told. puzzling why the media report lesser and sillier arguments in their efforts to gin up political feuds when this discrepancy is easy pickings staring them in the face.

  13. RebelliousRenee says:

    The words “Democrats” and “gumption” in the same article… now that’s what you call a real oxymoron.

    OSH… good on Emily!
    The Chicago yacht club…. maybe she’ll find a rich husband who will help you out… Smile

  14. patd says:

    If you don’t have the gumption to get it done just quit talking about it.

    craig, careful. talk show guests may take you up on that and then where would you be? a lot of dead air.

  15. patd says:

    it appears that Florida is once again home[to] a systemic election year fiasco. Try to contain your surprise.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/12/12182519-florida-gop-voter-purge-leads-to-litigation

  16. jace says:

    We should cite congress for contempt. Sad

  17. jace says:

    Arizona voters head to the polls to fill the House seat vacated by former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D). The race pits former Giffords aide Ron Barber (D) — who was injured in the January 2011 shooting of Giffords and others — against Jesse Kelly (R), who narrowly lost to Giffords in 2010.

    Will be watching this one. I have my fingers crossed, but not overly optimistic.

    Eprof, if you are lurking, stop by and give us your take. Wink

  18. whskyjack says:

    The Heart of the Matter

    John P. Hussman, Ph.D.

    Over the past 13 years, the S&P 500 has underperformed even the depressed return on risk-free Treasury bills. Real U.S. gross domestic investment has not grown at all since 1999, and even as a share of GDP, real investment remains weak.

    The ongoing debate about the economy continues along largely partisan lines, with conservatives arguing that taxes just aren’t low enough, and the economy should be freed of regulations, while liberals argue that the economy needs larger government programs and grand stimulus initiatives.

    Lost in this debate is any recognition of the problem that lies at the heart of the matter: a warped financial system, both in the U.S. and globally, that directs scarce capital to speculative and unproductive uses, and refuses to restructure debt once that debt has gone bad.

    Go here to read a very good opinion piece

    Jack

  19. whskyjack says:

    More interesting reading

    The Ratchet Effect

    The American political system, since at least 1968, has been operating like a ratchet, and both parties — Republicans and Democrats — play crucial, mutually reinforcing roles in its operation.

    The electoral ratchet permits movement only in the rightward direction. The Republican role is fairly clear; the Republicans apply the torque that rotates the thing rightward.

    The Democrats’ role is a little less obvious. The Democrats are the pawl. They don’t resist the rightward movement — they let it happen — but whenever the rightward force slackens momentarily, for whatever reason, the Democrats click into place and keep the machine from rotating back to the left.

    Here’s how it works. In every election year, the Democrats come and tell us that the country has moved to the right, and so the Democratic Party has to move right too in the name of realism and electability. Gotta keep these right-wing madmen out of the White House, no matter what it takes.

    (Actually, they don’t say they’re going to move to the right; they say they’re going to move to the center. But of course it amounts to the same thing, if you’re supposed to be left of center. It’s the same direction of movement.)

    So now the Democrats have moved to the “center.” But of course this has the effect of shifting the “center” farther to the right.

    Now, as a consequence, the Republicans suddenly don’t seem so crazy anymore — they’re closer to the center, through no effort of their own, because the center has shifted closer to them. So they can move even further right, and still end up no farther from the “center” than they were four years ago.

    In fact, the Democrats’ rightward shift not only enables the Republicans to move farther right themselves; it actually compels them to do so, if they want to maintain their identity as the angry-white-guy party par excellence. (A great part of the Republicans’ hysterical hatred of Bill Clinton arose from this cause: with Democrats like Clinton, who needs Republicans?)

    The ratchet clicks: Nixon. The pawl holds: Carter. Click again: Reagan. And again: Bush Senior (and Iraq War I). The pawl holds: Clinton. Click: Bush Junior and Iraq War II; then another click, and it’s Bush Junior triumphant, and God knows what to come

  20. really interesting piece, jack, like that ratchet example a lot

    OSH, congrats to Emmy! Sailing is hard work. I much prefer to be a passenger

  21. pogo says:

    The Rat knew…

    “The Rat said nothing, but stooped and unfastened a rope and hauled on it; then lightly stepped into a little boat which the Mole had not observed. It was painted blue outside and white within, and was just the size for two animals; and the Mole’s whole heart went out to it at once, even though he did not yet fully understand its uses.

    The Rat sculled smartly across and made fast. Then he held up his forepaw as the Mole stepped gingerly down. `Lean on that!’ he said. `Now then, step lively!’ and the Mole to his surprise and rapture found himself actually seated in the stern of a real boat.

    `This has been a wonderful day!’ said he, as the Rat shoved off and took to the sculls again. `Do you know, I`ve never been in a boat before in all my life.’

    `What?’ cried the Rat, open-mouthed: `Never been in a--you never--well I--what have you been doing, then?’

    `Is it so nice as all that?’ asked the Mole shyly, though he was quite prepared to believe it as he leant back in his seat and surveyed the cushions, the oars, the rowlocks, and all the fascinating fittings, and felt the boat sway lightly under him.

    `Nice? It’s the ONLY thing,’ said the Water Rat solemnly, as he leant forward for his stroke. `Believe me, my young friend, there is NOTHING--absolute nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. Simply messing,’ he went on dreamily: `messing--about--in--boats; messing—-’

    `Look ahead, Rat!’ cried the Mole suddenly.

    It was too late. The boat struck the bank full tilt. The dreamer, the joyous oarsman, lay on his back at the bottom of the boat, his heels in the air.

    `--about in boats--or WITH boats,’ the Rat went on composedly, picking himself up with a pleasant laugh. `In or out of ‘em, it doesn’t matter. Nothing seems really to matter, that’s the charm of it. Whether you get away, or whether you don’t; whether you arrive at your destination or whether you reach somewhere else, or whether you never get anywhere at all, you’re always busy, and you never do anything in particular; and when you’ve done it there’s always something else to do, and you can do it if you like, but you’d much better not. Look here! If you’ve really nothing else on hand this morning, supposing we drop down the river together, and have a long day of it?’

    “The Mole waggled his toes from sheer happiness, spread his chest with a sigh of full contentment, and leaned back blissfully into the soft cushions. `WHAT a day I’m having!’ he said. `Let us start at once!’”

  22. pogo says:

    Romney earns 4 Pinocchios for his health care blather.

    http://tinyurl.com/8yfvesd

    Good, work, Willard.

  23. harborwoman says:

    Sea…very, very cool about Emmy! Congratulations to her! And to her proud mom!

  24. Ignoble exChamp says:

    S***, maybe Jack should do a radio show… he’s rather sagacious these days. He can fill Click and Clack’s spot.

  25. Ignoble exChamp says:

    Speaking of Click and Clack, why the heck did two MIT graduates open a floundering car-repair business?

  26. pogo says:

    Loves me my Wiki.

    Ray Magliozzi’s MIT degree was in Humanities and Science and was a teacher in Vermont for a few years. Tom was a business grad from MIT, got an MBA from Northeastern, and a PhD in Marketing from BU, worked in the private sector and taught at the university level. Sounds like both of them got bored and opened the “Hacker’s Haven” do it yourself garage before opening the Good News Garage -- where they did the work. Some people just like to get their hands dirty I guess.

  27. RebelliousRenee says:

    hey…. Champ…

    don’t drive like my brother….

  28. Tonyb says:

    http://craigcrawford.com/2012/06/12/democrats-paralyzed-again/#comment-291134

    Pat,
    I saw the Cenk piece and its amazing! I think the President should have defended his so-called gaff with the true facts that Cenk presented..No more backing down, ha maybe in the debates the President should bring a few charts to show? I know been done by Perot but maybe its time for a chart comeback. Rolls Eyes

  29. Flatus says:

    Ah, the people we know here! Sea and her amazing Emmy, and Uncle Bob R. who got the kid an amazing job in Chicago where all those Navy kids go to school. Such a world, already!

  30. pogo says:

    OK, so one thing I don’t get -- Obama has according to Dana Milbank (probably correctly) had about the worst month so far in June he could have, with no relief in sight. But despite that, RCP has Obama at a 1.9% generic vote lead and rising, and Intrade has Obama at 53.1 with a 10,4% lead over Romney.

  31. whskyjack says:

    Champ
    I think the key to good radio/tv is to steal good stuff, then don’t step all over it with your own stupidities. It is a rare show that can do that. It seems that most media personalities have egos and if they don’t pee on it some, then they don’t feel they are doing their job.

    Jack

  32. whskyjack says:

    Pogo, it is June, only addicts like you and I are paying any attention everybody else are either woking, taking the kids to ball practice or at the lake/beach/ect.
    And intrade can drop 10 pts in no time.

    Jack

  33. The Right has yanked Jesus off the cross and replaced him with Atlas Shrugged!

  34. whskyjack says:

    This chart will predict more than intrade

  35. whskyjack says:

    My favorite tv/radio person was Tom Snyder
    Here is a classic where he interviewed Charles Manson.

  36. pogo says:

    Jack, you may be right ultimately, but WADR, 3 of the 5 states with the highest 3 year growth are safe or leaning Romney, one is safe Obama and one is a toss up. 3 of the 5 states with the lowest 3 year growth are safe or leaning Obama, and the other two are toss ups. (All according to the RCP electoral college map as of today). I don’t discern a trend from that map and the year over year growth map is even less tied to any predictions out there.

    But you’re right about that junkie thing -- and I’m at work, have done two ball practice pickup-dropoffs today, and have been planning a vacation for the last week. so much for any suggestion of either/or….

  37. pogo says:

    BTW poobah, I noticed that WaPo has a Trail Mix blog thing -- you never copyrighted the name???

  38. patd says:

    pogo, ahhh, but we here on the trail are the real mix of fruits and nuts. 100% pure.
    wapo’s are merely pretenders and wannabees.

  39. xrepublican says:

    Former Prime Minister john major’s testimony in Britain is that rupert murdoch perjured himself.

    I think the murdochs will be have to follow halliburton to Arabia. That’s the only place they can be safe from prosecution, unless they give a huge gift to Cardinal bertone….

  40. xrepublican says:

    Of course, murdoch will say, ” Never asked for anything. As john major indicated, I demanded.”

    Somehow, I don’t think the difference will be enough to avoid prosecution.

    Now, john majors is in the position to make demands of murdoch. HAHAHAHAHA

  41. xrepublican says:

    Maybe ohreally can beg CBS for a job & juan williams can get his old PBS job back, too. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  42. xrepublican says:

    Pogo,

    You can’t copyright a title, it would have to be trade marked.

  43. xrepublican says:

    ann coulter wants people to think that Dems have to leak info to make rip up licans look bad. Sorry, ann, you guys do that on your own.

  44. Katherine Graham Cracker says:

    It’s a sure sign that most Americans still blame Shrub that at the gooper convention there is going to be a giant tribute to George Herbert Walker Bush…Mr. 1% and I think they are hoping to avoid Shrub at all.costs .Jeb can long for the moderate Republicans and maybe they can get his son for the youth moment and never mention Shrub at all
    Maybe Laura can speak instead or the twins

  45. Katherine Graham Cracker says:

    I have a new prediction for veep

    Senator Bob Corker (Unrepentant liar) Tennessee

  46. xrepublican says:

    Why not larry craig ?

  47. xrepublican says:

    rippers need FL. They should nominate mark foley.

    foley and craig share all of the positive characteristics of scott walker : they been indicted.

  48. jace says:

    Dear Mr. President,

    I am writing to thank you and commend you for your recent efforts on behalf of consumers everywhere to roll back the price of gasoline.

    As you know , there is no greater threat to a recovering economy than rapidly rising energy costs.

    As recently as March and April of this year,presidential candidates,lesser known politicians pundits of all stripes and even oil company CEOs have proven factually and beyond all doubt, that the price of a gallon of gas is determined solely by the President of the United States.

    I know that you are acutely aware of this awesome responsibility, and have acted in a manner consistent
    with this knowledge, and the need to keep the economy moving forward.

    I have little doubt that as a result of your actions members of both parties and all political persuasions will come together and, like myself, give credit where credit is due.

    In the words of FDR, “if it works do more of it”.

    Job well done sir.

    Warmest Personal Regards,

    jace

  49. jace says:

    Early returns looking good for Ron Barber (D) to finish out Gabby Giffords’ term.

    Hope this is indeed the case. If so republican big money loses out at least this time. Wink

  50. Katherine Graham Cracker says:

    Vice President Mark Foley…why not? Is he really any creepier then Cheney? And probably far less of a criminal.