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Good Morning all from a soggy Florida..
Jamie,
Thanks for the line from the first episode of The Newsroom, sounds great. Gonna watch this evening..
Obama the Underdog
by Robert Kuttner
Recovery depends on middle-class spending power
Robert Reich
The world according to Mittens the short version
The Democrat (sic) are big C Communists and want everyone to lead mediocre lives in ce-ment block buildings and stand in line for food and medical care
Tony
It was a fun show. Not up to Sorkin’s “West Wing” best as yet, but darn good actors and lots of potential. Of course realizing that Deep Water Horizon is still leaking and Haiti is still a mess doesn’t help. Needless to say the Media and Right Wing are screaming for their mutually gored oxen.
Great read on The Affordable Care Act
Forget the source but if true you have to ask yourself: What is going on with our party?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/another-dem-congressman-refuses-endorse-obama_647812.html
A little something for our friends in Florida
why would anyone waste anytime on something if it’s only speculation and you always have to consider the source
but I admit I looked it up: the story was only in gooper sponsored propaganda and not at all accurate
one should always consider the source
Tonyb
Debby isn’t forecasted by NOAA to make landfall in the Florida Panhandle until Friday morning. Looks like from Central Florida to Georgia and Alabama it is going to be a very soggy week.
MO
And when did the Democratic party become “our party” for you? Just more trolling supposition without foundation from a proven irresponsible source.
Fast and Furious? I mean really, who the Hell comes up with names like this? As a country we can do better!
We used to come up with names for operations like ‘torch’ and ‘anvil’.
Fast and Furious, sounds like a description of road rage. No wonder it went in the ditch.
Movingon I can only guess that you are too young to have been around during the 60s. Back then the “solid south” and its Foghorn Leghorn Senators were not strongly behind Kennedy (in fact in Alabama, of its 11 Democratic electors, 6 voted against Kennedy). I’m not sure that Joe Manchin will support Obama openly in November -- Obama being absolutely hated in WV by anyone in any way attached to the coal industry. So what’s a socially conservative Democrat to do? “Viewed as one of the most socially conservative Democrats in Congress, McIntyre is considered the “most powerful and effective leader,” political or otherwise, in southeastern North Carolina.” Hmmm, what’s socially conservative mean in SE NC? I wonder. If Kennedy hadn’t named Johnson his running mate, Nixon would in all likelihood won the 1960 election, Watergate would probably have never happened and the Vietnam war would certainly have taken a different direction.
PiT -- Al Roker said NOAA is predicting as much as 15-20 inches of rain for Central FL before all is said and done with Debby. That’s a lot of water in a very flat region. Got a canoe? Might come in handy.
We could use 5 to 20 inches of rain out West.
Jamie… didn’t catch The Newsroom… I fell asleep… but it will replay and there’s always On Demand… I’ll definitely see it.
MO… I agree with KGC… one must always consider the source for any piece of information… be it political or otherwise. What if my banks gives me economic advice and recommends only their products… I’d be a fool with money to not consider the source.
Tony and PIT… sorry about your upcoming week. It’s finally raining here and it’s a welcomed sight as it’s bringing in a cold front. We here in NE hate the heat and humidity.
Sorry Jace, that was 15-20. And yes, you guys could use that….
Pogo,
Water water everywhere and not a drop to drink,
Water water everywhere and all the boards do shrink…
Such is life.
Kidding aside, all you Floridians be careful.
Batten down the hatches and be safe.
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2012/06/24/tim-pawlenty-romney-surrogate-admits-mitt-hasnt-put-out-a-specific-plan-to-eliminate-any-of-the-particular-deductions/
Oops is right.
Back to Names.
The Obama Campaign= Operation ‘Scatter-gun.’
The Romney Campaign= Operation ‘Corpse’
Well thank you pogo for those kind words, “too young”, I only wish I was.
Jamie I susupect not all Democrates drink from the same well. From only being here a sort while I have noticed there are a few who become very prickly when a different point of view is presented. Unsubstantiated demeaning innuendos/accusations do not make your position anymore right. If I’m wrong, If I’m wrong, but someone saying my position is wrong without providing any documented proof to support their claims simply has no facts.
I thought my earlier post was clear?
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These types of stories are easy to prove or disprove, and let’s not overlook the votes that took place during the D primaries in AR, WV and I believe TN, where President Obama lost. There is a under current of sorts going through the Democratic Party of discontent with President Obama. There are some here who post their own discontent with the president, but I suspect they are for different reasons.
Romney: The Flip Flop Collection
Is Air Conditioning a basic right?
As much as I hate extreme heat, I am basically opposed to air conditioning. It makes it possible for human beings to live where they probably have no business living and/or wasting energy and spoiling the environment in order to do it.
MO
What I objected to was the “but if true”. Too much of right wing statements have nothing to do with actual fact and everything to do with making others believe it is fact in order to score political points or raise money. It is just plain sloppy thinking aimed at the deluded.
Key parts of Arizona immigration law struck down as unconstitutional. So much for Romney’s “Model for the nation”.
Isn’t air conditioning just the summer flip side of heat? Heating just strikes me as older and simpler, but the same concept -- changing the indoor environment to make it tolerable for our decidedly delicate bodies when the outdoor environment isn’t so accommodating.
Oasis, Adobe, Trees, not working in hottest part of day etc. served just fine for a lot of centuries. I’m definitely in favor of the siesta.
From WaPo:
“The court ruled that Arizona cannot make it a misdemeanor for immigrants to fail to carry identification that says whether they are in the United States legally; cannot make it a crime for undocumented immigrations to apply for a job; and cannot arrest someone based solely on the suspicion that the person is in this country illegally.
“However, the court upheld the part of the law that requires police to check the immigration status of anyone they detain, if there is “reasonable suspicion” that the person is unlawfully in the United States. Even there, though, the justices said the provision could be subject to additional legal challenges.”
Health Care decision will be announced Thursday.
Time for a little animal humor.
Funny pictures of cats with invisible things and funny dogs.
Pogo, we needed the rain as does Georgia. But so much at once just becomes runoff into the Bay and Gulf. In Georgia it may become flooding.
Having grown up in the deep south, I respectfully disagree. A/C is somewhere there with sliced bread.
Members of Congress trade stocks in companies under congressional investigation.
http://tinyurl.com/6wgp8w7
“The Post analysis does not provide evidence of insider trading, which requires showing that lawmakers knowingly used confidential information to make trades benefiting themselves. Instead, the review shows that lawmakers routinely make trades that raise questions about potential conflicts and illustrate the weaker standard that Congress applies to itself.”
I wonder why Congress has such low approval numbers? hmmmm.
What I objected to was the “but if true”.
Jamie,
‘but if true’ is right up there with ‘some people say’.
It is rarely true and most people don’t say it, but that makes little difference to right wing news outlets.
Pogo
That’s why there is sweet tea and snoozing on sleeping porches and under the magnolias, not to mention fans of all kinds to keep that darn dead air moving just a bit. I spent a lot of time in Fresno. Sweltering arm pit of California which is why God invented Yosemite.
Well, all of that is true Jamie, but still, a/c has made life in the hot, humid areas of the country a whole lot more tolerable than before it was widely available. But I do take your meaning. And there is really nothing more pleasant than sweet tea and a cool breeze (well, almost).
Proof that there are better ways to change a society than war: Action Movie Festival in Astana Kazakhstan
http://astanafestival.kz/en
jamie, you must never have experienced tallahassee in deepest summer or when a hurricane knocks out the electricity and there’s nothing (no ice for the tea, no fan for the breeze, no porch screen left intact inviting snoozes or warding off skeeters) one can do but melt into slothfulness.
no sweltering armpit of california can compare.
hiaasen on super pacs naming:
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/23/2863824/super-pacs-who-comes-up-with-those.html
and this little bit of news from same column:
hey Jamie…. remember “sour grapes”… (or was it “sour cherries”)… he’s still pickin’ on you…. ROFL!…
well… I’m glad I have my small air conditioner for my studio… won’t put it on until July… but couldn’t work that month without it.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court-throws-out-montana-ban-on-corporate-campaign-spending/2012/06/25/gJQAZjUx1V_story.html
Having experienced Fresno when irrigation was happening on the raisin ranches and swamp coolers before real air conditioning, Washington DC in the summer, Phoenix when temps at 2:00 AM are still at 100, Albuquerque in a dust storm, Mexico in August etc. I have to admit a preference for “dry” heat and the shade and comfort of three foot thick adobe walls and avoiding humidity at all costs.
My first summer in DC, I stumbled into the Chamber gasping, “You people don’t put any air in your air.”
I had hoped that the Montana case would show that there was a chance for Citizens United reconsideration. This decision now destroys any chance of reconsideration. The money shall triumph.
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
AMERICAN TRADITION PARTNERSHIP, INC., FKA
WESTERN TRADITION PARTNERSHIP, INC.,
ET AL. v. STEVE BULLOCK, ATTORNEY
GENERAL OF MONTANA, ET AL.
ON PETITION FOR WRIT OF CERTIORARI TO THE SUPREME
COURT OF MONTANA
No. 11–1179. Decided June 25, 2012
JUSTICE BREYER, with whom JUSTICE GINSBURG, JUSTICE
SOTOMAYOR, and JUSTICE KAGAN join, dissenting.
Jamie,
I am with you -- dry heat. I lived in Sacramento in 69 and 70. Sacramento was an irrigate desert very very hot and very very dry. If the humidity got up to 25% during the summer it would be unbearable. I played 18 holes of golf when Sacramento was the hottest place in the nation at 115 degrees. When I was in New Jersey I could not play 3 holes with a temperature of 90 degrees and the humidity of 90%. I could not see the golf ball because of the sweat running in my eyes. Back to the 19th hole.
In Florida during the summer we go from air conditioned house to the air conditioned car to the air conditioned office or mall. Air conditioning created the year around Florida. Before air conditioning Florida was a winter only resort.
I need to experience this dry heat everyone speaks of. All the heat I’ve encountered has been hot heat (mostly with relative humidity somewhere north of 90%). I’m guessing that there must be a range from about 90 to 115 where absent that relative humidity it is just hot, as opposed to oppressive. When it’s above 80 and I see wisps of fog by the river in the morning, I know it’s gonna be one of those days that it feels a whole lot hotter than it is. Having experienced the Gulf Coast in August when it was too hot for par 3 golf, 100/98 which I believe translates into a heat index akin to the 5th circle of hell, I’d like to see what this dry heat is like. I know this -- I realize sweat is the body’s mechanism for cooling itself -- but when those 100/98 days come around, it’s the body’s way of wetting itself and all the clothing one happens to be wearing. Cooling? Hah!
I had hoped that the Montana case would show that there was a chance for Citizens United reconsideration. This decision now destroys any chance of reconsideration. The money shall triumph.
PIT… I am totally bummed by this decision. I wonder if the 5 justices just wanted to give Obama an “oh yeah” for daring to criticize Citizens United during a SOTU address.
Gonna have to read the decisions I guess. Since the MT statute that was overturned is 100 years old, seems kinda odd. I’m trying to wrap my mind around how limitations can be put on individuals contributing to a candidate and no limits apply to corporations contributing to a PAC, buying airtime and the like. And not sure how CU applies to state restrictions. I really know too little about this area to know what I don’t know.
Pogo,
In a very dry, below 25% humidity, the evaporation of the sweat is cooling. Just remember to drink lots of fluids. I have been in Phoenix at 121 but the humidity was about 40%. It was hot!
In Sacramento after work we open the car door, hoped in, startrd the car, got the a/c on and got the hell out because it felt like hell in there. One guy cooked an egg on his hood and ruined the paint.
“if true…”
wasn’t hard to check and it’s not true
KC, LOL!!!
Typical Fox spin -- (they must have a book on this) -- ask a question about a Dem -- anything other than “Yes” is “No”. He didn’t refuse to endorse Obama -- he didn’t address the question. It’s typical Hannity logic or Limpball logic. The follow up is “So are you refusing to endorse Obama?”
Justice Scalia once more proves politics and prejudice make this man anything but supreme.
Went out to lunch with my partner and some friends, came home with my partner and a new iPad. Expensive lunch. Last time I bought an Apple anything was an Apple II, back in the early 80′s
I know it is morally wrong, but I definitely would not be saddened should early age heart attacks happened to certain members of the court. Unfortunately, unlike millions of their fellow Americans, they all have very, very good salaries and healthcare courtesy of the taxpayer.
gee Jamie… I was kinda hoping for something along the lines of cancer of the penis and few dicks falling off…
Judging by the level of nastiness from Scalia, I think that dick became inoperable a long time ago.
Pat,
Oh you can say that again! I remember just a few short years ago, 3 hurricanes back to back, miserable..I had the ladies then, oh man, i got smart after the first one and got a generator but still no A/C, fans though..Oh and the pool enclosure screens were gone, so as you say, the no see’ems were a terror..LOVE A/C….
Jamie and Renee,
Keep em coming…
I’m fascinated with your conversation!
So what else would one expect from Hitler’s Chief Nazi Judge Herr John Roberts and his supporting Nazi Judges.
They have committed Treason against our Constitution and Country with their ruling on CU which they overturned at least a 100 years of settled law. Now they refused to uphold the Montana Law that was enacted due to the Montana State being bought with bribes by the rich Corporates.
Herr Roberts lied during his Supreme Court hearings in the Senate and the Republican Fascist Nazi’s refused to swear him in fully knowing that he would lie about Settled Law or Stare Decisis.
By not putting him under oath which would have allowed for his Impeachment and Removal from the Court for Perjury they saved his Ass as he can not be removed for lying.
He sold our Our Country and Constitution to Corporations, Foreigners and I would also guess Foreign Governments.
Herr Roberts and the other Nazi Judges are clearly Traitors and need to be removed one way or the other as far as I am concerned. I would certainly lose no sleep if someone gave them all a Gabriel Gifford right through their heads.
PS: IIRC Scalia is a Fascist and went to a Fascist School as a child.
Have a great evening.
i keep envisioning jamie and pogo as hepburn and bogart on the african queen. she sweltering but not perspiring in her victorian garb, daintily sipping tea dabbing at her brow fanning herself in quiet desperation while he lolls back in a puddle of sweaty dishevelment swigging at a halfgone bottle of scotch.
Hey there Trailmixers! This is the Dove.
Craig has unofficially given me permission to run his bloggity while he’s gone. So here are my instrictions. Just read my post below and then click on about 10 of Craig’s ads here and then go over to my site and click on about 10,000, oops typo, ten million of my ads and then Craig will be home in no time…luvya, Dove.
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Trolls On the Airwaves…Hell in the Sky
Listen up my fellow Americans, especially those of you who are smarter and more informed than most others.
It is my opinion that the ‘more informed’ people are more the cause of our downward political spiral, than are the ‘less informed’. Here’s how that works.
When the more informed people become so saddened and revolted by the less informed that they shun them, taking prideful hope that their more informed ideas will inevitably win out through simple human evolution; Something very bad happens. The smart people stop talking to the dumb people, so to speak. So if the more informed, are so revolted and saddened by the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity and Boortz and their followers, that they refuse to even communicate directly with them about politics, then how are people to learn? How is society to advance without war? How can we evolve without communication.
Listen to me my friends in the ‘intelligentsia’, if you had done your moral duty as I have in listening to and suffering through and digesting these selfish, vile spreaders of hate on our American radios, you would realize that it is you who are the biggest fools of all! For taking even one half breath of a hiccup of your lives to speak ill of President Barack Obama, when there are monsters afoot.
http://thedixiedove.com/
patd
If you think I’m letting him hog the single malt, think again!! That tea cup may be holding a gold liquid but it sure isn’t oolong.
This is interesting purely from the standpoint of attitudes from younger people. Screen Rant is a site that covers new motion pictures and TV shows. It is not political at all and while politics creep in every once in a while, it is mostly on plots, development, and characters. It goes with one of my other obsessions about entertainment. Read the comments on the premier of The Newsroom
You might then want to add the home page to your rounds of blogs to check.
“And when did the Democratic party become “our party” for you? Just more trolling supposition without foundation from a proven irresponsible source.”
I smell the modus operandi of maxtrue, vadaryl, & GORDO. It smells like a Trojan Hearse.
Mr. Paranoid,
Regarding yours of 7:24 pm, it was way over the top. Beware of black helicops.
I expect inJustice scalia to expire from a massive heart attack after being caught shoplifting in a dollar store while wearing Founding Fathers’ Originalist garments : grey wig tied back with a silk ribbon bow, tight satin toreadors and short tunic in electric blue, a ruffled blouse, silk panties with ribbon ties, white hose suspended from garter belt, and a Victoria’s Secret pushup bra.
I expect Chief injustice roberts to be outed by a heart-broken longtime boyfriend who has all the videos.
I expect inJustice thomas’s 2 mistresses to sell their stories to non-fox tabloids and sue for support for their 13 children.
I expect inJustice alito to be caught on video, flashing at a Richmond bus stop. In the background you can hear a nurses aide on her way to work holler, “You’re hung like a hamster!”
During a presentation by the attorney representing the nra, I expect inJustice kennedy to suddenly shout out, “I JUST CAN’T STAND IT ANY MORE !” and spray the gallery with the tommy gun he hides under his robes.
I expect inJustice Ginsburg to be caught shoplifting at a dollar store, wearing Founding Fathers Originalist garments….
“…it is you who are the biggest fools of all!”
Check please !
Now, Now Jamie and Rebellious Renee be careful with what you say on here. Big Brother is watching…
A friend tipped me off about this video of the NYC Pride Parade. One of my favorite radio hosts, XM Radio’s Fez Whatley, is shown on the Vitamin Water float. I understand it was a blast.
Those are fighting words, dovie boy. oh,bummer can bash ‘the Left’ and expect them to take it, and you can tell ‘the intelligentsia’ to shut up, but your behaviors are generous gifts to romney.
There is no more stupid campaign tactic than to piss off the troops. Now go, and repent of your counter-productive ways.
Besides, if oh,bummer had done what he promised in 2008, rather than offering to sacrifice Social Security, there wouldn’t be disorder in the Dem ranks.
The local Archbishop of the RC Church wants to change the liturgy of the mass to aid willard romney. Several priests are stirring up trouble. One says Archbishop nienstadt and some other Church muckety-mucks are “obsessed with sex”.
nienstadt’s out of Detroit. Prolly one of father coughlin’s altar boys.
A Micro-Comedy of Manners
Archbishop nienstadt calls homosexuality a disorder.
I don’t think a sixty-some year old man, who wears expensive dresses and gaudy hats in public, is qualified to tag other people as disordered.
Hey buds i too am no fan of SCOTUS cons but dont give their side fodder by indulging in hate speech.
HEY ! You’re supposed to be on vacation.
If the right wieners start sizzling about Mr. Paranoid, we’ll just emulate the rip up licans and throw him under the juggernath.
Ha yes i am xrepub but never take a break from reading TM comments
shhhh, y’all are scaring the fishies.
too late, hopefully not, ms warren woke ‘em with this:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/26/elizabeth-warren-rips-into-romney-at-obama-fund-raiser-in-boston/?smid=tw-nytimespolitics&seid=auto
more from above link:
Craig… whether we give them fodder or not, they’re gonna indulge in hate speech either way. Soz I may as well indulge in a little humorous blowin’ off of steam on my favorite blog.
I speak only for myself.
Hope you catch lots of nice fishies.
Haha, at long last- someone in DC is catching a whiff of the stench coming from the Cape Wind project- am just sorry that it is a Repub and that a Dem didn’t step up to the plate. Sorry I have no link -- just an email
NEWS FROM
North Central Florida’s Congressman
CLIFF STEARNS
For Immediate Release June 22, 2012
Contact: Paul Flusche (202) 225-5744/cell 202 225-7360
OBAMA WHITE HOUSE AGAIN ATTACKS STEARNS OVER ITS ROLE IN PUSHING ANOTHER DUBIOUS GREEN ENERGY PROJECT
STEARNS CALLS FOR INVESTIGATION INTO WIND FARM PROJECT THAT POSES A PUBLIC SAFETY RISK
WASHINGTON, JUNE 22, 2012 – E-mails obtained by a group of residents opposed to a wind farm project off of Cape Cod show that officials with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) felt political pressure from the Obama Administration to approve the project. Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-FL), Chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee’s Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, who is leading the inquiry into Solyndra sees this as another instance of the Obama Administration pushing a dubious green energy project for political reasons. Since the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission and the U.S Environmental Protection Agency are involved in approving portions of this project, the wind farm also comes under the jurisdiction of Stearns’ subcommittee.
Said Stearns, “It appears that an investigation is warranted in the case of Cape Wind to determine if the FAA acted inappropriately due to political pressure from the Administration. I intend to work with the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform and the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure on this issue. The White House quickly responded with a statement, “This is the same member of Congress who wasted over $1 million of taxpayer dollars on a politically motivated investigation that has turned up zero evidence of wrongdoing.”
In correcting the White House, Stearns noted, “Although the White House is withholding subpoenaed documents, the Solyndra investigation has uncovered numerous instances of wrongdoing resulting in the loss of $535 million for the American taxpayer: the loan guarantee was rushed through for political purposes, the Administration ignored numerous red flag that Solyndra was not a viable venture, political supporters who also invested in Solyndra had ready access to the West Wing and top White House officials, and taxpayers were subordinated to two private firms in violation of the Energy Policy Act of 2005. The White House is also trying to wish away the fact that Solyndra is a target of an ongoing criminal investigation by the FBI.”
Searching around and found out a movie just came out in DC about the entire debacle.
A Tragicomic Debate On Cape Wind
http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/25/a-tragicomic-take-on-cape-wind/
OSH here is a link to the Cliff Stearns story.
OBAMA WHITE HOUSE AGAIN ATTACKS STEARNS OVER ITS ROLE IN PUSHING ANOTHER DUBIOUS GREEN ENERGY PROJECT
This could be a most interesting hurricane season. Debby eclipsed Dennis from 2005, the year of hurricane Katrina.
Debby sets records: Early-season storm a sign of things to come?
June 26, 2012 06:35 AM EDT
Craig,
If you think we are being mean to the Supremes, take a look at the comments on this picture The kindest starts at “corporate whore” and goes massively down hill. We are models of restraint by comparison. When they enable corporations and cripple unions in the political process, then that perverts electoral freedom of speech which is just plain wrong!! I can live with things being good for the goose, but only if the gander gets a place at the feeding trough.
In July and August, it can regularly go 120 plus degrees here. We never have humidity in the 90′s but if it is 35 or more look out. The problem is that it cools off very little at night, and shade, such as it is simply doesn’t make much difference. It is just f—ing hot!
The Colorado River and plenty of ‘desert ambrosia’ offer serious relief however.
We do have dry heat for several months a year, and a simple evaporative cooler will often suffice.
I didn’t think any one was being too mean to the Supremes.
I must admit that in my fantasy world a couple of those guys would end up in the ‘wood chipper’ ala Fargo
Jamie,
Nice picture of the Court, looks like they are wearing NASCAR outfits. All they need is the car.
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2012/06/25/photoh-appalling-facebook-page-features-vile-images-including-one-mocking-special-needs-child-pres-obama/
Two wrongs don’t make a right, but I think that we here are a little tame compared to this.
Hate Speech 101 or perhaps that should be slime speech.
jamie, thanks for the scotal photo.
looks like they’ve taken that “but equal” role a bit too far trying to be more like corporate-bought critterville.
and the “separate” part is questionable since both branches seem to be sharing the same puppetmasters.
cute little ditty on the 3 branches. right about them being like a 3 ring circus.
Scott Phelps, former spokesman for former Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon
“A Supreme Court ruling tells us whether all or part of a law meets Constitutional requirements. It does not tell us if a law is good or bad — or what its consequences will be. It does not tell us if we should have done something, only if we can. Those honest, intellectual debates are supposed to happen in the various state legislatures -- but in Arizona, they really don’t. We’re allowed to do a lot of things we shouldn’t — and in Arizona, we very often do. 1070 was designed to elect politicians, not to solve the problems it pretends to solve. Ours is one “laboratory of democracy” that could use all new Bunsen burners.”
Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/2011/03/29/20110329arizona-sb-1070-community-leader-reactons.html?page=13#ixzz1yuKxFxWw
Doug Kendall, president of Constitutional Accountability Center
“Today’s decision is a near-complete vindication of the federal government’s authority to establish uniform rules that guide immigration policy in this country. While Justice Kennedy soberly explained why the law prohibited Arizona’s effort to take immigration law into its own hands, Justice Scalia responded with a political diatribe better suited for Fox News than the Supreme Court.”
Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/2011/03/29/20110329arizona-sb-1070-community-leader-reactons.html?page=14#ixzz1yuMTg9YA
A little more feed back from AZ, and this one is spot on.
OSH,
In spite of the Cape Wind debacle, what is the cause of “Cape Cod still continues to enjoy the worst air quality and the highest asthma rates in Massachusetts”? Is it just the Canal Power plant and the Brayton Point plant west of the cape which are among the EPA’s “Dirty Dozen” or is it more?
Cape Cod gets an “F” for air
April 28, 2005
jace, thanks for bringing up the diatribe. reminded me of the furor over samuel chase,the only justice to have been impeached.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Chase
with regard to anton, as jefferson asked about samuel: “Ought the seditious and official attack on the principles of our Constitution . . .to go unpunished?”
purple, what is the cause of the poor air quality? probably because they’re downwind of boston politics.
An AP poll finds that roughly half of Americans believe that the outcome of the election won’t have much impact on the economy.
Ya’think! Duh….
The corporations and business contributing to Karl Rove and the Koch brothers and others like them, like the economy just the way it is. In short they have never had it so good.
A Romney victory would tilt the playing field even more in their favor, and their worst case scenario is that an Obama victory at a very minimum at least preserves the status quo.
High unemployment and stagnate or declining wages are their wet dream come true and they will not allow anyone to change it.
osh, any chance your emmy will be on the u.s. olympic team?
sea, just looked up this year’s team (photo linked)
http://olympics.ussailing.org/team/
so my question is for future glory.
From the photo.
Is Alito always that arrogant, or did he just put one over on someone? What a prick.
Patd,
I don’t mind if Scalia wants to write and talk like he is running for office. I just want him to resign first.
PiT, Depending upon the jet stream, Cape Cod gets the benefit of all the crap put into the air from Illinois and all points east and Kentucky to Virginia and all points north essentially, everything from the rust belt’s industry and power generation ends up in Cape Cod’s air.
Pat, LOL at the vision of me on the AQ (not too far off, as a matter of fact -- sort of Bogie without the good looks).
And LOL at the idea of SCOTUS as NASCAR drivers -- I’d love to see Scalia try to wedge his fat ass through the window of a NASCAR car (they don’t have doors, you know). If by some miracle they could grease him up and push him in, they would either have to cut the car apart to get him out or it would end up being his coffin.
BTW, the Montana decision yesterday was Per Curiam so it doesn’t have precedential effect.
And did anyone catch Jon Stewart’s bit on the cable news analysis of the AZ decision? Absofrickinlutely hilarious.
Jace, you mean the Alito who mouthed “Not true” when Obama criticized the Citizens United decision because it would allow unlimited campaign cash to further corrupt the already poisoned election process? That Alito?
Just a note to anyone who might be interested,
Bogie was drinking gin in that movie. Sadly he had no tonic so he was forced to use river water.
In the immortal words of Elisa Doolittle, “It was the gin what done her in”
Nasty stuff.
no question some of these justices are a threat to Democracy and deserving of extreme scorn and ridicule. i do get squeamish tho when we veer into attacking their body parts. ha, an image i’d rather not imagine. and Anon’s Nazi talk usually strikes me as a bit over the top. but i fear tomorrow’s obamacare ruling will give cause for a fresh round
they have body parts?
pogo, is this it
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-june-25-2012/arizona-winners—losers
I just heard a Diane Rhem Show on the SCOTUS decisions… one of the panelists equated Scalia’s diatribe on immigration as akin to a blogger’s post. Sheeeesh…. talk about insulting bloggers…
BTW, the Montana decision yesterday was Per Curiam so it doesn’t have precedential effect.
pogo… in laymans’ terms… WTF does that mean?
jace, thanks for the historical correction. now jamie can have the whole bottle of malted spirits and
pogo can enjoy a very dry martini on the a. queen.
btw, these were bogie’s last words as legend has it:
given all the confusion among legal commentators about the reasoning of the opinion, they ought to call it “per curious”
hmmmmm… Craig…
I don’t recall any protests from you when certain state legislatures were discussing vaginal probes…
methinks am I detecting a wee bit scent of body part bias…
ha, you got me there, rebellious, TOUCHÉ
scroll to the end of this booze filled bogie bio to verify the last words quote.
http://www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com/issues/05_03/05-03-bogart.html
Obamacare predictions? I’m going against the odds: Upheld 6-3 with Roberts writing the opinion
But not betting more than my lunch money — and I don’t eat lunch
also from same link and in regard to drinking on the a. queen set:
craig, we must scare up an obamacare opinion pool!
my bet is that they kick the can down to next term.
RR
For some reason men frequently think they can do what they will with female body parts. When the ladies start discussing the possibility of adjusting the length of male appendages, the fellows get all sorts of sensitive.
what body parts? peeking under those robes, one concludes the justices stevens and souter’s last words upon retiring were “going to take my balls and go home”… and they did.
patd…. ROTFLMAO!!!
Lordy look at what I’ve started. Alright the Court upholds Equality of Body Part References. Scalia dissent forthcoming. I’m off to the dentist now.
xrep -- Your 1:04am was fantastic!
Agree with Craig on Obamacare.
Disagree with Jamie on the a/c, but only because it has a direct impact on my life today. 106-ish. Would agree that a shrinkage in the human population to all parts habitable would be best, and, we would have more habitable parts with a lower population. Hmmm, caught in a circle.
is an “i told you so” warranted looking back to this momentous occasion?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/28/AR2010012802893.html
pat, that’s the bit.
Renee, that means that it only applies to that case, doesn’t stand as precedent for future cases.
wonder how the “not true” justice responded to this.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/mccain_adelson
The only reason Roberts sided with the Dems, minus Kagan, and Kennedy was to avoid a four to four tie that would have killed the entire law. This way Roberts get to keep a little of the law. I would not count on Roberts for anything.
And the only reference to body parts I made is to Scalia’s fat ass, and I stand by that reference (as long as I don’t have to stand by what’s referenced).
Dove,
If this were truly the case then i would be taking a vacation from this blog while Craig is gone. Your “instrictions” seem very un-Democratic and anti free speech…
Obama to Big Money Dems: Romney’s Going to Outspend Us
by Taylor Marsh
Wow, this is sad, truly sad…
pogo, scotus say corps have certain citizen rights. what about their foreign born subsidiaries? can they have their tax free cake and enjoy their superpacs too? gao’s study of us corps and their offshore babies found
Renee, that means that it only applies to that case, doesn’t stand as precedent for future cases.
pogo… thanks for the explanation… it makes me feel a tad bit better…. I think.
IMO, DixieDove was a bit “tongue in cheek” with his post from last night.
TonyB i assumed Dove was being sarcastic (always dangerous in blog writing), because that’s certainly not the case
rr, not to worry anyway. they don’t need no stinkin’ precedents. they toast ‘em and eat for breakfast.
pat, I don’t know what restrictions exist under FEC regs -- but I can’t see how a US company would be prevented from spending money from a foreign sub through a PAC or super PAC -- but I’ll do a little quick research and see what pops up. Stay tuned.
another question on corps spending on elections: how are stockholders impacted? is this kosher per sec regs if stockholders have had no notice or say?
pat, the short answer is the foreign corps can’t spend money in our elections. There’s an FEC brochure on the issue.
http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/foreign.shtml
I don’t know whether Citizens United affected this, and of course I’M SURE that all US corps follow the guidelines in the brochure, and of course there are probably loopholes.
I’d venture a guess that stockholders can change the Board of Directors if they don’t like the expenditures, but stockholders’ rights in corporate management are really limited to voting the bums out unless there is a voting bloc of shares large enough to force a board meeting and vote or otherwise force the board approving the donations not to do that.
http://craigcrawford.com/2012/06/25/open-thread-9/#comment-292062
Craig,
Thanks, I knew no one needed to be in charge in your absence..
Sarcasm probably and as Renee said, maybe “tongue in cheek”..If the intent of Dove’s post is his real opinion, well then its fine by me as i want to read em all..
“pat, the short answer is the foreign corps can’t spend money in our elections.” -- Pogo @ 4:43pm
However, after the foreign corporation’s donation has been strained through a domestic corporation’s kidneys, it’s perfectly alitoble.
Method #1 : Let’s say that the Fats kim wants to influence the US election on behalf of his kingdom, northKoreaCo. Fats can send one of his agents to Macau to ‘lose’ $10 M!LL!ON in Fats adelson’s casino in a nano second, followed by a handshake and knowing looks. Fats adelson can then then take the $10 M!LL!ON and pee it into any Super Pac that is a wholey owned subsidiary of Fat Cat willard for President. Fats adelson having peed, the pac is now flush.
Method #2 : The dictator of Venezguay, Generalissimax Fatez Catillo wants to influence, etc.
Pollution Corp, a US oil pumper, has been requesting that Catillo allow them to build a pipeline between their recently acquired Venezguayan oilfield and the nearest port.
Off the record, with winks and nods, Generalissimax Catilo generously offers to allow the pipeline, as long as Pollution Corp deposits $10 M!LL!ON into the Fat Cat W Super Fund, and make sure the candidate knows the true origin of the money. As soon as Candidate Fat Cat W acknowledges the ‘donation’, the pipeline project moves forward.
Democratic Presidents Are Better for the Economy
By Richard J. Carroll
Method #3 : Sheikh Hassan bin Listenin wants to sell bananas in the US market that were grown in his plantation/nation by black slaves he purchased from Sudan.
With the help of Bane Capitul, the Sheikh purchases Laundree State Bank, which in turn purchases StuffCo, a mediocre grocery warehouser/distributor in the US.
Laundree State Bank spins off StuffCo’s $10M!LL!ON fund of non-vested pension money into the coffers of the Fat Cat W Super Pac. Meanwhile, StuffCo’s new president chats privately with candidate Fat Cat W, requesting that his admin allow the import of Hassan bin Listenin’s slave-grown bananas.
“We’re creating jobs here,” the Prez of Laundree State Bank tells Faux Friends Business Report.
If Mr. Dove’s intent was sly comedy, and as MS Rebellious suggests, merely bit his tongue and cheek, then I feel much better about him and my world.
The way I heard the decision verbalized, the corporate cash presentations were essentially the bundled contributions of shareholders. And, as in the case of other contributions, must come after the bottom line, i.e., out of after-tax profits. So, if that’s the case, the shareholders must have offered their cheerful agreement in foregoing their dividends.
Now, what happens if the corporation loses money and has no profits from which to draw? Surely there must be some extraordinary mechanism required before the individual shareholder participates in becoming a debt holder on behalf of the corporate citizen’s right of free speech?
XR, can you help the shareholders of my corporation (@1848)? It must be strictly legal, of course.
Hey Blue. The best thing that could happen to the human race long term would be a really good plague. Unfortunately, in the short term, most people (or at least their relatives) object to suddenly dispensing with four billion people.
Population by decade since 1950
Year Total world population Ten-year growth
rate (%)
1950 2,556,000,053 18.9%
1960 3,039,451,023 22.0
1970 3,706,618,163 20.2
1980 4,453,831,714 18.5
1990 5,278,639,789 15.2
2000 6,082,966,429 12.6
2010 6,848,932,929 10.7
2020 7,584,821,144 8.7
2030 8,246,619,341 7.3
2040 8,850,045,889 5.6
2050 9,346,399,468 —
Read more: Total Population of the World by Decade, 1950–2050 — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762181.html#ixzz1ywbRZ44X
Only truly clueless and selfish people have more than two and if they were in touch they would adopt
Given all the children out there who need loving and secure homes I think a have one adopt one policy would be a good thing with double tax exemption for the adopted child. Not enforced, just encouraged and promoted as the right thing to do.
Don’t get me started on what I think of people such as the Duggars who have litters not families.
I wish I could remember where I read it…but one of the great lines of all time was about Mrs. Duggar’s womb and a clown car
Nora Ephron has passed away at 71
Craig,
Through out my adult life I have followed two simple rules that have never failed me.
Rule 1- Never eat yellow snow.
Rule 2- Never visit your dentist during your vacation! That’s what sick days are for.
110 F in the Garden today, as we tried to save our lonely, lovely elm tree. My friends tell themselves lies about her fate.
I know her fate, death in weeks. Now, we are left with her lone sister. For decades these twins stood in “sandstorm city”.
Now, one is dying I bought a $45.00 chain saw from Sears today to cut her up, and in temps, of 108 to 109 we all when out to cut her down. It is fitting, the heat & wind, has killed killed this sister. And we are there to clean after her.
When she goes she won’t harm anything.
Made my water project stand out like : “Ben Hur”.
OK, I’ll bite. 5 to 4 and the cons. win. They throw the whole thing out, because they are not capable of a narrowly defined ruling.
Scalia will write the majority opinion and it will be just that, opinion, no basis in fact.
Where I have placed a valve , that I designed, funded, and built speaks for it’s self.
I’m sending my nephew to the top Cactus Friday morning . His job at Texas A.M. was in the ‘liberary” ……. The Norwegians hired him as a “liberian”. They sent him to fucking Turkey.
I’m going to put his ass on top of the Cactus.
You buy enough ‘hammered copper’ paint , all the ‘new’ looks old. All the old looks better.
$15.00 Bucks a quart . ( I’m into $150.00 in paint & supplies this spring. )
If you don’t move, I’ll paint yer ass.
With good paint, I have the right thinner .
I got everything kids Think about it, you come to Texas, and see my work.
I bought steel from Warren Buffet today. $65.00 dollars.
I bought twice the amount I needed.
Warren deals 1,000 foot bundles , I bought 12 sticks.
I’m really very good, it just seems like I’m not.
Wait till I get nephew on the roof , it’s a scary ladder folks.
Then I teach his ass about fucking ‘pop rivets’.
Wait till I get nephew on the roof ,…….. He’s already seen places I’ll never go. If he had my knowledge, he wouldn’t have come back.
But he did, his ass is the roof of the Cactus with me Friday morning early.
My nephew is named after ‘Travis’, yes the that one.
Friday morning as the sun comes up. I’m going to chew his ass.
And if he fails, he dies. If I fail, I die.
Neither way, I’m installing my water project. Nothing will stop me ,…….. period.
“Mr. Jakes caught rivets for a living,” Sherlock noted.
“I object, Holmes,” I ejaculated, “how could you possibly know that?”
“Observe, Doctor Watson, he has more dark spots on his hide than a leopard.”
If I scare my nephew , great. If I scare me , better.
Nothing slows me down, even if I wait 4 weeks, for nothing.
Nothing slows me down.
I mean nothing.
Dear Mr. Flatus,
Before we attempt any imaginative alteration to @1848′s business plan, I strongly suggest that you join the ripper Party and plan a mutli-M!LL!ON
$$$ F. R. for their candidate.
Once this preliminary ground work has been accomplished, the future of @1848 will know no bounds. Consider Brooklyn Bridge Futures, mortgaging the Grand Canyon, and shares in Diego Garcia. We can make great things happen.
Our pal 9-11 Survivor, Sort Of, posted this on Facebook…I am going out on a limb and posting his comments on the death of Nora Ephron here:
“She was the last of a pair of truly good New York Public Icons. To be around her when she was (particularly) at Citarella’s or even at Zabar’s was just plain utter goodness. I’m not going to mention who the surviving one is. Yeah, they could have been friends, they certainly could have known each other and that other’s work. But I ain’t puttin’ a kinehora on anyone left here. I will add that, yes, if you want to know what MDS is… well, she had it. And it took her. Stem cell is IT when a person has MDS. And I am beyond lucky to be with whom I am chez Weill Cornell. That said… I loved her books, her essays and her food shopping. And her films got people to listen to Harry Nilsson which is one of the few truly great things you can maneuver Hollywood into doing.”
http://www.dccc.org/pages/obamacare
RR ……. Back to your head gear. Your hat comes just before your show. You get to tell people that some person you’ll never met, made you this hat.
Tell em’ it’s from ‘sandstorm city’ .
Hammer, and thongs baby . Hammer, and thongs
RR ……. Back to your head gear.
It’s so ‘French’ , but it’s a product Lubbock. You’ll clean their plow. Tell them it came up on the trade routes. Tell them you traded teeth , and weaving for it.
RR ……. This hat, is so cool , you can write any story you want. The more you lie, the better the karma.
Colorado wildfires worsen, 32,000 flee homes……. It was 105F yesterday in Denver. The ‘all-time’ high record since 1895. In any month.
Sunday, 115F north of Goodland, Kansas.
The Beat Farmers , Riverside
The Tragically Hip -- New Orleans Is Sinking
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