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A very well nuanced point, Craig. Or, on second thought.
People just want him to morph into the Harry Truman who we love more every year.
Glamour vs Charisma…. hmmmmm…. methinks you might be onto something there, Craig.
Of course the other problem might be that all those other presidents you mentioned didn’t have the glare of 24/7 cable news with numerous pundits…. nor the internets where everyone is a pundit… picking apart every little move, thought, or thought to be of the man.
Years ago when we were stationed at Ft Leavenworth, KumCho and I drove to Independence so that I could see HST’s house and the streets that he walked every morning. I felt privileged. And, true to my word, when we left we stopped at the new Macy’s on the northside of KC.
hey yo…
I was on the board of trustees for my library for 9 years. I did not have anything to do with the day to day running of the library. I did not pick which books to buy or run any programs.
If one of youz has a problem with the library… go tell it to the librarian. I DID NOT have anything to do with that library.
signed sincerely, RebelliousRenee
Glamour to charisma…it could not be put better…
Er, Ms Renee, isn’t it true that your ‘library’ was a privately owned bookstore where you were the sole proprietor?
Oops, I beg your pardon, you weren’t the sole proprietor of the bookstore, you were the chairman and chief executive officer of the entire chain of bookstores. My bad.
And, instead of drawing $3,500 a year out of the cash register and all you could read off the shelf, you were paid $100k per year plus whatever else is on your unreleased tax returns.
James Carville on Chris Hayes is much better this morning. In high spirits and animated. A very effective surrogate.
and not just sole proprietor, chairman and chief executive officer, but sole stockholder also. no matter if you were all these roles but in absentia or voluntarily “on leave” weren’t you the beneficiary of all the profits?
btw, who signed your name to those sec documents?
RR
what does a library trustee do?
Loving Up this morning. Or hating if subjects such as corporate farms, monocrops, food insecurity, and death of the middle class disturb you.
I don’t know about other places, but to be semi-serious, our library board of trustees in Knobite Corner is in cahoots with city council A)to prevent our library from settling into a permanent facility in a central location where everything’s up to code and B) to scout which sleazy strip mall is next on the list of possible locations. It is presently located in what once was a coin laundry, next to a check-into-cash place.
I also suspect them of taking kickbacks from the puter software industry, since the library gets grants hand over fist to upgrade computer equipment, but have books in the stacks that have barely changed since I first was a library rat, forty years or so ago.
A very strange place, Knobite Corner--but hey, it’s home.
surely, some made-in-usa apparel shop out there could come up with the requisite togs for our olympic crew in the next week. the pr scoop against ralphie would be worth the extra overtime.
wholeheartedly agree with mark shields comment last night on newshour about the horrible style. must have been leftover stock from the polo pony’s fraternity/sorority catalogue sale circa 1920s.
Romney wants advertising on Sesame Street. Talk about really bad family values. Let’s drain parent’s pocketbooks with cheap toys and food demanded by three year old corporate consumers.
maybe an enterprizing uniform shop run by prison industries using grown in america hemp fabric could come up with some spiffy suits better than those preppy rags from the hahvahd coop bargain tables.
ROFL! youz guys are tooooo funny…
KGC… actually, Flatus wasn’t too far off… it is a semi-private library. It was established by the prominent rich fart of yesteryear…. he left a nice endowment. But the town has been giving it money for years as a supplement.
The board runs the overall stuff such as staff salaries, insurance, invests the endowment, pays all the bills, how much money to spend on things such as books, computers, programs… and promotes the library. It also encourages what direction the library should go in. Such as when the town built a new elementary school with it’s own library. The kids no longer came to the town library. We encouraged the librarian to take some of the money spent on kids books and spend it to beef up the adult collection… which she did.
I would assume that the board of a corporation encourages what direction the corporation should take too…. and promotes said corporation to other boards of corps. who could use the corporation’s services.
Is there really much of a difference between Romney & Obama?
They are both taking the country in the same direction; the only difference is the speed.
Obama just offers a slower path towards the destruction of the middle class. ALL of Obama’s “new” economic policy positions, that are labeled “progressive” by the clueless media (and “socialist” by the demented GOP) are just re-worked Republican positions of ten or twenty years ago.
Obamacare is Romney care, and it stinks, because it was dreamed up by conservatives as a way to further enrich the insurance companies and prevent any effective regulation of their pricing.
Obama’s Wall Street bailout was identical to Bush’s Wall Street Bailout. “Here, take a trillion or two as blackmail for NOT crashing the economy. No strings attached. Just remember to donate some of it to my re-election.”
Nash, I don’t think any of us has given up our dream of single-payer coverage for all. You’re in the best position of any of us to make that happen because you can educate, educate, educate. Maybe, at some point in time, something will stick.
But, of course! That is our place in life!
Call me a ‘homer’ Craig, but for me, the glamor faded away when Chief Justice Roberts flubbed the swearing in. I’ve seen Charisma since then. President has been a tough cookie with a quick smile and some hard chops and there’s no quit in him. My take.
Please check out my sister-out-law Dale Blank’s gorgeous calendar in the right sidebar under heading Trail Mix 2013 Calendar. Her usual masterpiece of original New England photography.
Here’s a good read which should make you laugh or perhaps cry, depending on how you take it.
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/7/14/163014/591
It’s titled We Have 2 National Governments.
Have a great evening.
Error from last thread : “Let’s face it, running with willard is a lose-lose situation. In the likely event that oh,bummer is re-elected, having run as romney’s second, could lead to a job with fakes news and lucrative book deals. For the younger ones, perhaps a shot at the White House in 2012.”
Of course, I meant 2016. Or, 2020. Or….
Nosiree, I didn’t get to be one of America’s most successful businessmen, by knowing what was going on in my company. No, ignorance has been the key to my meteoric rise. And I promise you, I’ll bring the same ignorance and sloth to my Presidensity !
FYI REPUBLICANS- You can put all the sugar in shit that you want to, but people aren’t going to eat it.
When a Republican from Alabama says Romney must release everything people want…it is over…
Rick and I are leaving for a mini 4-day beach vacation today. Everyone take care and play nice… I’ll catch up when I get back.
For you sunday morning pleasure
KGC,
Thanks for the link on Stein/green party…I like the Greens..
In the dumps with the American Dream
The Rambler American. DETROIT — Is Michigan about to flip for Mitt?
By David Shribman
sigourney weaver:
Hi Tony
I saw an interview with Stein on Democracy Now. She is very good. She is articulate -- she’s been around the block in terms of how politics work and she is a doctor who clearly understands why are current system of health care does not work. She chose as her running mate a woman, Sherrie Hunkala who activism has been around issue of poverty and financial discrimination.
Stein ran against Mittens for governor and managed to get a debate with him — I hope the Green Party can be included. She is the first Green candidate to independently qualify for federal matching funds and I think that certainly should allow the League and the television networks to give her a spot on the podium.
Florida Voter Purge: Feds Approve State Access To Citizens List
AP | By CHARLES BABINGTONhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/14/florida-voters-purge_n_1673448.html
http://craigcrawford.com/2012/07/14/from-glamour-to-charisma/#comment-293116
Hi KGC,
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I hope she’s included as well..I listened to her New Deal plan video and its terrific, oh if only America would implement it..I would seriously consider voting for the Greens, ah but i’m in Florida, ugh, the thought of voting for President Obama again leaves me cold and its real HOT here
Couldn’t believe Romney’s “free stuff” remark. Following on the heels of his NAACP speech it demonstrated the worst kind of racism -- the one that doesn’t think it is. Everything about it was talking down to the audience, total lack of inclusion and an attitude of superior to inferior. He invited others to look into his heart, well what I see is a complete lack of empathy for anyone or any group that is not one of his kind.
link for above quote from article promo for “political animals” airing tonight.
http://www.usaweekend.com/article/20120713/ENTERTAINMENT01/
The First NEWSROOM Award Goes to Chris Hayes
by Taylor Marsh
Jamie,
Check this piece out! Love Newsroom and thanks for telling me about it..
http://open.salon.com/blog/howard_steven_friedman/2012/07/10/
Tony
Depending on how things are going in California I might vote for her. If Obamarama has a big lead -- she’s going to get my vote.
I think she is the kind of leader the Greens have needed one who understands it is bottom up organizing that is needed. In California particularly Northern Cal the Greens really were on a roll but the folks at the top Gonzales and the current suspended maroon Sheriff of SF Ross Merkarimi were such ego maniacs they ruined it for everyone else
Truly sublime, Jack, Jace would be ecstatic!
Here’s my current dream ticket for president
Howard Dean and Jill Stein and I don’t care which is which although I have a slight preference for Stein just because of gender.
Howard Dean is an amazing organizer and motivator and both understand the issues of the day in profound ways.
For the Dean myth alone people should shun modern media
By ‘free stuff’, rip up licans chiefly mean the right to vote, the right to speak, assemble, and associate freely, and the right to worship as one thinks best, in the manner one thinks best. However, they also mean the right to be secure in ones papers and property, the right of access to the courts and the right to trial by jury, and the right to marry (or not) and have children (or not) as one desires, all of which they have attacked in the public forum, and in some cases at the Supreme Court.
Oh, yeah. And, the right to life, a right they only uphold until the subject is born. They uphold the right of Big Gov to execute death warrants, and to neglect people into death by starvation and disease.
ABC jumps the gooper’s shark again
During an interview with the Mayor of Chicago and the chair of the Obama campaign — the running title said Chicago style politics? oy
no difference between abc and fox in terms of the bias of the news
Romney’s ‘Free Stuff’ Speech Is a New Low
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/romneys-free-stuff-speech-is-a-new-low-20120713#ixzz20hittAP7
3 economic philosophies…
Conservatives: believe private businesses should control the economy through unregulated markets. Individual greed is good and produces optimal economic results for society.
Liberals: believe private businesses should run most of the economy through (government regulated) markets AND that government should directly control some functions, like K-12 education, or (maybe) health care. Individual greed is useful, but must be balanced with democratically chosen economic goals that serve all members of society equally.
Radicals: believe government should directly control most of the economy making core production & distribution decisions through democratic processes. Only small businesses should be allowed to function in local markets, under close government regulation (ie farmer’s markets). Individual greed is usually bad. Another name for the radical economy is “democratic socialism,” as practiced today in Scandinavia: Sweden, Norway, and Denmark.
The radical critique of “liberalism” is that it doesn’t work because of the tendency of big business, which is controlled by the upper class, to corrupt democratic processes by controlling the media and “buying” elections. This leads to unregulated, increasingly unstable markets,which inevitably crash when giant “too big to fail” corporations engage in highly speculative behavior in a never-ending search for higher profits. (Sound familiar?)
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OK.. what’s the point of all this?
Watching Obama the Democrats (repeatedly, pathetically) fail to control the relentless and destructive rampages of big business has turned me from a liberal into a socialist, in just four years.
Nash, re your 1116
I certainly don’t dispute the gross chunks into which you’ve divided our society. Indeed, Ms Rand would have been proud at how you characterized her cohort.
But, despite your dismal assessment of Mr Obama’s performance, I tend to be more charitable. I believe he has had the tea leaves read for him, and that he will achieve at the level his potential allows.
That coupled with the widespread realization within highly developed economies that we are being collectively screwed, should make the process of disestablishing the financial cartels somewhat easier. After all, the governments control the movements of all funds.
If, a year from now, it seems as if my appraisal is absurdly optimistic, you are just a hop, skip and a jump from the border. You have been brushing up on your French, haven’t you?
Yeah, yeah we know. You two and Nash are going to map out the shore of the Ste Laurence for when everything _really_ turns to merde. Say bonjours to Ty.
Anybody need anything at Kroger?
Anybody need anything at Kroger?
chips and salsa and a nice porter (the beer) please
One of my favorite actresses and the original Ado Annie in R&H’s Oklahoma -- Celeste Holm
Nash,
Perhaps you were thinking of Socialism.
Radicalism is not an economic ideology, it is a methodology potentially applicable to any ideology, economic or not.
Katherine, is house brand okay on the chips? Taco or potatoe? Muy picante salsa? I’ll buy their best porter. Will express mail the stuff tomorrow. Email addy flatus at
ohlfahrts. Org
XR,
I didn’t have any doubt that he was describing himself as a ‘radical liberal’ which he equates as being an honest socialist in the Scandinavian model. All this is quite different than being an ultra-radical left-wing radical which I don’t equate as being either an honest socialist or an honest liberal.
If I’m wrong on all this, I’ll find out when I return from Kroger.
Flatus
bleeding heart, tree-hugging, union supporting Eleanor Roosevelt liberal, and damned proud of it.
Well, I didn’t hear from KGC so I didn’t make any purchases on her behalf from Kroger.
My bad… I thought you were having a party and were asking if there was anything special people wanted.
It’s been so long since I’ve lived near a Kroger I don’t have a clue which of their house brands is uniquely good
Flatus,
Thank you for your translation.
Scandi-socialism is mostly public ownersip of the post office, highways, rail system, utilities, and public health. It used to include airlines.
The really big companies like ABBA, and Volvo, TetraPak, Novo Nordisk, etc., are either privately owned, publicly traded stock companies, or subsidiaries of large foreign firms.
As much as I like Scandinavia and their way of organizing the production of goods and services, the Scandis seem to be a pretty tame and docile bunch. They’re not exactly in the style of Erik Bloody Axe, Sigurd Snake Eye, and Ivar the Boneless any more. Their docility toward authority is simultaneously a relief, an annoyance, and a wondrous strange attitude for me, the typical (HAHAHA) American.
Ha, lov it and lov you too!
It use to be that one was innocent until proven guilty. Now you are automatically guilty until you prove your innocent.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/07/13/516665/fl-supreme-court-upholds-states-tough-drug-law/
Shows how much Republicans respect the Constitution and Rule of Law.
Who knows, but one day you may find yourself, a loved one or friend being charged with a crime and not being able to prove their innocence.
It’s time to remove all Republicans from power at all levels of Government. Local, State and Federal if we want to retain our Constitution and Freedoms.
Have a great evening.
Katherine,
Like most of the good grocers, Kroger house brands are uniformly of good to excellent quality. Perhaps the better question to ask, which brands do you like best? Like Coke vs Pepsi, etc., or miss the most.
Most of us who live in the Southeast especially like Publix. This afternoon I was after some things that were on sale at Kroger. Frugal me--I’ve been well trained.
Back to topic. Obama’s White base shows cracks.
Yup, I volunteer every week, and I dislike him intensely. That just shows how much I loathe willard the rat king. So, I guess that I’m a crack in the White base.
My regular weekend electoral college report :
oh,bummer -- 297 minimum, if election held today.
realclear politics’ no ties map shows oh,bummer winning 332 -- 206.
I guess this makes me more conservative than the conservatives.
Good night, everyone.
Have a pleasant watch, Dexter.
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