In a 2009 interview with NBC’s Brian Williams, former Democratic President Jimmy Carter attributed much of the conservative opposition that President Obama is receiving to the issue of race.
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Carter calls it. I think it has been very obvious in both the teaparty movement and if you point to a birther you are pointing at a racist, IMO. And yes Mr Trump we are talking about you.
Jack
Because our elites in this country shy away from calling people(ex.Mr Trump) what they are (racist, liars) these racists and liars are able to parade around in public as responsible people with opinions worth reporting. It is basic cowardness that lets this continue.
We are at a point where if you aren’t speaking out you are part of the problem. By speaking out I don’t mean on some blog or face book page where you have a lot of like minded people. But to speak out to the racist and liars around you.
If one is part of your group and you don’t speak out then everybody assumes you believe the same and in their eyes you become a racist too.
I’m kinda strong on this right now as we have an elderly woman who speaks out at meetings about the Mexicans. When nobody contradicts her the people from the city start addressing all of us as if we believe as she does. As you can imagine, I have no problem speaking out, she and I are not on speaking terms.
Jack
Craig…
correct me if I’m wrong… but I assume this means you approve of what Chris Matthews said to Reince Priebus on Morning Joe last week.
actually RR i looked for this clip because I think Carter far more convincing, made an important point without acting like a raving lunatic
Jack…
while at a family breakfast at an American Legion club last year… my treasured nephew kept up a rant about gay this and gay that. I finally had had enough and told him some of my best friends were gay and I considered such talk an insult. Being in his early 20′s, he was of course defensive… but I’ve noticed he hasn’t used that word around me since…
To not speak out is intolerable, despicable, unworthy, and un-American.
The ugly voices are the children of the racist pigs who fought integration of neighborhoods and schools in the 50s and 60s. Identify them for what they are racist pigs needing help, or the door.
Craig…
Matthews did act aggressively… but in his defense, it would have been interesting to see how Carter would have reacted had he had the likes of Priebus pushing back in his face.
Carter has the advantage over Matthews, in his lifetime he has seen it up front and personal. As a Southerner he can identify the wink and nods that others can only guess at.
Jack
IMHO Carter would have nicely Bitch slapped Priebus and made him look like the disingenuous punk he is. Carter has been accused of being many things since the 70′s, but one area I’ve never heard anyone criticize him about that I can recall is race relations and his view of them.
Between his demonstrated incompetence in dealing with the Iran hostage crisis or his arbitrary deregulation of industries like the airlines, I considered him the worst President in my life time until George W. Bush became President. I think almost everyone new that the Obama attacks in 2009 were racist.
Pat a few threads back: “If the smartest thing the Devil ever did was convincing people that he didn’t exist….”
This reminded me of Baudelaire’s introduction to Les Fleurs du Mal
He says that the stench of the Devil is everywhere, yet no one believes in him. “Infinite subtlety of the Devil.”
However, when people smell the devil, they may be only smelling their own corruption, or the corruption of the people or things they love.
We should note that the Dem Presidents of the last several threads, with one exception, were one termers. Two succeeded very popular presidents,got a lot done, were re-elected, and then had a very hard time. In Johnson’s case, the hard time was self-inflicted.
Only FDR served a full term and was then re-elected.
The DNC missed an opportunity --homeless families are being evicted from motels where they have been staying to make way for convention hangers-on can stay and pay a lot more….
The DNC should have stepped up and paid the difference so people could stay in their homes and not ne made homeless again.
The Mainspring Mouija has fixated on willard’s likeability or the lack thereof. That’s entirely beside the point. No one liked nixon, not even his best friends. Yet, nixon romped in 72 -- admittedly after manuevering the Dem nomination to the least capable campaign. The point remains, the turnout was huge and nixon romped, despite being the least well-liked president in a century.
The Media ought to be be asking, “Does the public trust the candidate ?” And a key component of people’s trust has to do with their perception of whether the candidate likes them. We want candidates that like us, and some, like Dole and willard, don’t seem to. willard likes stuff, concepts, system, and finds people to be disappointing. He likes to fire them.
Strangely, oh,bummer doesn’t seem to like us either. He seems aloof, self-sufficient, and ‘in-his-head’.
Part of the craziness of the country may stem from the fact that we are tacitly aware that our leaders don’t love us. FDR, JFK, LBJ, Carter, & Bill, all loved us. So did HHH and ronnie.
Katherine Graham Cracker -- Unfortunately, the harsh truth is that the DNC really does not care what happens to people. They are so busy playing their stupid games with the Republicans that they have not looked around at how our country is falling to pieces. I’d say it is the same thing as the Republicans and infrastructure…but, hell…For the Republicans they seem to be clueless that we have figured out the sun is not Ra riding on his Divine Ship.
KGC
No votes in that, trust me nobody cares about the poor. Even those who claim they do are mainly writing their next grant proposal or their success story.
Jack
Now,we’re like orphans, farmed out to live with our cousins, and always aware that we aren’t the stars.
Our leaders love the commieChinese, the Saudis, the Israelis, the Vatican, the British, the Irish, but they don’t seem to like us much. But, they’re stuck with us, and, if we act out our frustrations, it ought to be understandable.
And then there are folks like Hank Williams, Jr., who say things about Prez Obama, and tag it with hating him. (Pride in hatred; really odd.) This kind of hate-monger tends to amp up others into a frenzy more than the wink-and-nod variety of bigot, but both are a sad commentary on our nation.
one of the first things that slaps you up side the head with do gooding organization is how fast their mission statement can change at the smell of a grant. I’ve seen for a number of them chasing the next grant becomes their entire focus.
Jack
Blue, I quit listening to jr, both to his music and his whiskey soaked brain nonsense.
BTW he hasn’t produced any good music in 30 years.
PIT
I’ve got to disagree with you. Deregulation of the transportation industry was one of the good things to come out of the Carter administration. We now have a modern efficient transportation system. Before we had a byzantine mess. ineffecent out of date and not able to handle what the last 45 years was going throw at it.
Jack
Well, he was back at it down here over the weekend. He may not have an audience for his music anymore, but he’s got their ear for something.
Just read the Romney/Ryan Secret Service names: Javelin & Bowhunter
Now, what is the point in those special names if they are released to the public? Unless, they just want us to have fun with them.
Looking more forward to Bill Clinton’s speech this week than anything else, and he’s looking forward to the spotlight. Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!
Blue, HRC is running in 2016 or at least Bill believes she is. He is building up a lot of favors this year. He really doesn’t like team Obama nor trust them so I’m curious who persuaded him to do those ads.
With the last 2 president his reputation is soaring. His post presidency has him in the spot light. He can set this one out, pop some pop corn and watch the show. No one would notice.
But unlike Obama , The Big Dawg is a party man and goes all out to get his fellow Democrates elected. so maybe that is enough.
Naaah, He got something out of the deal. Wonder what?
Jack
jimmy talking to piers this past january:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/jimmy-carter-gingrich-has-that-subtlety-of-racism/
I am going to watch Michelle Obama’s speech tonight…It should be very good…President Clinton will be great tomorrow night…
President Carter’s comments to Brian Williams were wonderful!!!
Paul Ryan’s mocking President Carter yesterday, solidifies Ryan’s place as a creep…
It might be fun to follow the bouncing Romney, but apparently he can’t. Gallup
US blacks fear lingering racism if Obama loses
http://craigcrawford.com/2012/08/31/mitts-big-night-upstaged-by-a-chair/#comment-296562 “I keep looking for the reasons for your frequent castigation of those on this blog.”
HW, You need look no further. I’ll tell you why.
For the same reason you ‘felt the need’ to appear long enough to castigate me.
I think Craig answered me that day promptly and honestly, and I took his answer into consideration and agreed with his point of view. He’s always open minded and fair.
Maybe if you’ll all take a vote to have me barred from speaking, he’ll take that under consideration too.
Swing away!
http://www.southernliving.com/community/rick-bragg-southern-journals-00417000078157/
CBob, I was in a waiting room this morning, and read this article at the end of a magazine I was looking through.
It reminded me of your gardening talent and passion, and of the great respect you have for the earth.
I hope no one feel’s offended that I’d quote something from: Southern Living, which is a magazine I didn’t know existed until I saw it there, but from now on I’m going look for it at the Mag. stands.
I vote to keep Nemo here forever. Or, even longer if necessary. ( :>D))<
Two prominent Conservatives speak out :
Wick Allison, former publisher of National Review under William F. Buckley and current publisher of The American Conservative: “Romney is the opposite of conservative, with a plan that is fiscally reckless and a foreign policy that is unnecessarily militant. Obama has done about the best that could have been done, considering the united GOP opposition in Congress.”
Douglas Kmiec, a veteran of Reagan’s Office of Legal Counsel and a law professor at conservative Pepperdine University: “I am strongly in the president’s camp, even as his opposition has been doing its darnedest to overstate a few concerns about the usual subjects. I know the very positive effect he has had on international relationships. His patience, discernment, and intelligence are much admired. Domestically, the president was handed the worst possible economic hand, and largely, though of course not perfectly, he has met the economic challenge … This is supposed to be Mr. Romney’s area of strength, but so far, his ideas are either indecipherable or a rather lame trickle-down do-over.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/04/world/middleeast/us-prepares-economic-aid-to-bolster-democracy-in-egypt.html?ref=stevenleemyers
To Back Democracy, U.S. Prepares to Cut $1 Billion From Egypt’s Debt
chloe, quote away. they have wonderful recipes at times plus very enticing articles on some of the sweeter places the south has to offer.
new thread
NEW THREAD
…. as always Pat, Thank you.
This is what the US would get in return for the $1B in Chloe’s link up above. Sounds like a promising way to start off our relationship with the new reality that is Egypt.
Thanks, Chloe, pls stick around.
Thanks, Flatus
The visuals for Carter were awful -- and whether he could have more effectively dealt with either the oil crisis or the Iranian crisis any better will be debated by historians and probably never resolved. I have actual work I have to do this afternoon, so see ya later.