The former president’s Democratic convention speech is widely praised but tucked inside was a less-discussed charge against Republicans that could be his party’s killer app: GOP Medicaid cuts that would devastate nursing-home care.

“They also want to block grant Medicaid and cut it by a third over the coming decade. Of course, that will hurt poor kids, but that’s not all. Almost two-thirds of Medicaid is spent on nursing home care for seniors and on people with disabilities, including kids from middle class families, with special needs like, Down syndrome or autism. I don’t know how those families are going to deal with it. We can’t let it happen.” – Bill Clinton, Democratic National Convention (9/5)

That passage was Clinton’s best advice to Democrats last night. But strangely the Obama White House has been slow to trot on this one. The cuts Clinton talks about are right there in Republican running mate Paul Ryan’s budget plan, which passed in the House and won Mitt Romney’s eager endorsement.

Instead, the Obama team has dwelled on the Medicare debate with the Romney camp. But, as Clinton suggests, there is huge political gain in spotlighting the Romney/Ryan nursing home cuts targeting senior voters in battleground states. Indeed, these cuts are more drastic and start sooner than the Medicare cuts.

There was a time I thought that embracing Ryan’s budget bill was the dumbest thing Romney did all year. But then he topped himself and actually put Ryan on his ticket. Now, the GOP nominee is shackled to proposals that would privatize Medicare and dramatically restrict access to nursing homes.

There are just 60 days left in the campaign but that’s plenty of time for Obama, Joe Biden, their campaign team and friendly Super Pacs to make sure this message gets out. Or, just let Bill Clinton do it.

 

119 Responses to Bill Clinton’s Best Gift to Obama

  1. Katherine Graham Cracker says:

    Best post-Clinton speech tweet

    “I need a cigarette”

  2. Tonyb says:

    The fact that it’s basic reality has escaped Obama is one of the major reasons that I believe Obama doesn’t deserve a second term.

    Yep, Jack,
    I have to agree..Don’t know how i will be voting in Nov, well i know i won’t vote for Romney/Ryan, yep, i want my Medicare someday. I’m still leaning on voting Green Party but if its close in Florida i may vote for President Obama but it won’t be because he deserves to be re-elected that’s for sure..Thanks so much for keeping it real as you help me feel sane in a world of partisan rah rah..

  3. Katherine Graham Cracker says:

    Why do Republicans feel that aggressive blonde rightwing whack-jobs are appealing? Who can forget the witches who made millions writing about The Clintons. And I just saw Margaret Hoover --yikes…
    and they are still hauling around Ann Coulter.
    And many of the Republican bobblehead women are showing a lot of cleavage — it must be what they assume is a form of distraction because they have nothing to say

  4. Tonyb says:

    Craig,
    Good post and sound advice to Democrats..
    I have loved President Clinton for years and i was so proud of him last night. My god, the man made me believe again in the Democratic Party, if only for a bit. The party under President Obama has become unrecognizable to me, ah but Bill brought back the possibilities of the party.. The big tent that includes all races is still the best thing the party offers, i like that..

  5. Katherine Graham Cracker says:

    tonyb

    The party under President Obama has become unrecognizable to me, ah but Bill brought back the possibilities of the party.. The big tent that includes all races is still the best thing the party offers, i like that..

    Bring back Dr. Dean

  6. Katherine Graham Cracker says:

    I do not think compromise is possible with the Republicans. Their thinking is so far off that compromise is impossible

    Democrats have to focus on the public not the Republicans —

    Means testing for medicare is wrong. It sets back the progress to single payer and it makes medicare an entirely different kind of program. People can pay more on the front-end but not as a recipient

    And I saw another Carville-Matalin ad…I would run screaming from the product. What an unpleasant pair

    California must not be in play at all --not a single ad

    This time I hope that Obamarama makes use of their supporters — it is hard work to sift through volunteers and find ones that are willing to make a contribution to policy development or to making sure the message gets out.
    They aren’t doing it now because they are financially and morally bankrupt, but the California Republican Party used to do a great job of getting their message out. Whenever Shrub did anything, they always made a local spokesperson available to talk about the local issues --local media loved it and they got a lot of free space and airtime over the years.

    Why can’t Democrats do something like that

  7. pogo says:

    Clinton’s speech was masterful -- even Brit freaking Hume said it may have been the best political speech he’s ever heard. I don’t see it anywhere, so I’ll say it -- That Dog WILL hunt.

    I see the RW critics can’t do anything but state the obvious as takeaway from Clinton’s speech -- Obama is not Clinton. What they can’t do -- and don’t try, is refute Clinton’s message -- that given the choice between Obama and Romney, the choice is a no brainer, and he din’t mean choose Romney.

    Bill did what the O team has not -- he put the Obama accomplishments (ACA, stimulus, LL Act) in the context of the economic and political environment in which they were passed into law, explaining rather than excusing their tepid successes -- and noting that no president, not even he, could have done what the R’s demand of O -- while persuading at least some that Romney and Ryan offers policies designed to return the country to a past that has taken over 70 years to escape.

    Oh, and I laughed my ass off at the effectiveness of the “brass” comment. Can’t wait to go and see how the RW bullshirt artists try to paint that one out.

  8. Katherine Graham Cracker says:

    Beware of the Military/Hedge fund complex

  9. RebelliousRenee says:

    Wow…. it almost makes me glad that my Patriots lost the Super Bowl. Cuz if they had won, they’d have played last night… and I would have never turned on MSNBC to watch the convention at halftime.

    Yup… Bill almost talked through the entire second half of the Giants/Cowboys game… saw only the last 2 minutes… but it was VERY VERY worth it!

    Also thought Sandra Fluke did a credible job. And what can I say about Elizabeth Warren… I LOVE HER!

  10. Katherine Graham Cracker says:

    Gov McDonald (Vapid pretty boy VA) but but but Obama has a lousy record high gas prices high unemployment

    Fall four years ago — I hope the goops are asking employees of Lehman Bros how they feel today?

  11. nemo says:

    Craig, Great Post!! You’re right on.

    Tony,
    I really love your comments this morning (as always). I couldn’t watch Bill’s speech — I love him ‘too much’ and I knew how great it would be — to me he can do no wrong. I just can’t let myself be torn apart by what goes on in in politics anymore.

    If I could give you ’5 thumbs up’, Tony… for both the comments you made this morning, I would.

    …. (whoops, I hope that’s not plagiarism).

  12. Oregon Democrat says:

    The Bill Clinton speech has so many effective ad opportunities for the Democratic campaign…

    Republicans are very uneasy this morning…

  13. patd says:

    tony, vote for o’biden

  14. patd says:

    bill, barack mutual bows of respect was a nice touch.

  15. RebelliousRenee says:

    Last week I linked to an article in The Economist about Mitt Romney on the morning of his speech. To be fair, I will link this week’s article on Obama. After reading both… IMO, that magazine isn’t thrilled with either major candidate. As a Brit publication, they know their economic butts are tied to what happens here.

    Four more years?

  16. patd says:

    at 1 min into the speech video after big dawg said “we’re here tonight to nominate a president” with sly grin and theatrical pause he said “and i’ve got one in mind” clearly must have elicited an unconscious, inner and unspoken response from many of “hillary”….
    least it did in my house.

  17. pogo says:

    From Dan Balz’ column in today’s Post:

    “Clinton said the most important question voters should ask is what kind of country they want in the future. “If you want a winner-take-all, you’re-on-your-own, you should support the Republican ticket,” he said. “If you want a country of shared prosperity and shared responsibility — a we’re-all-in-this-together society — you should vote for Barack Obama and Joe Biden.””

    What a wonderful way to frame this election -- and most of them for that matter.

  18. pogo says:

    “There was a time I thought that embracing Ryan’s budget bill was the dumbest thing Romney did all year. But then he topped himself and actually put Ryan on his ticket. ”

    Poobah, just goes to show you that no matter how dumb someone appears to be, there’s always a way to top even the dumbest thing that he or she has done up to any point in time. I know I have no problem topping my latest and greatest dumb move -- good thing I’m not running for president.

  19. Flatus says:

    Renee, The Economist’s premier thought person on America, Lexington, died a few months ago. His son, Lexington, is not made of the same stuff as his father.

  20. Jamie White says:

    patd

    You weren’t alone. The most frequent tweeter hash tag during Clinton’s speech was #hillary2016. I was responsible for one of them, but I doubt any came from the Cuomo household.

  21. Jamie White says:

    Tried to listen to Fox News again this morning. They are trying, but just can’t muster the will to live.

  22. Blonde Wino says:

    I am asking everyone I know to vote Democratic as a favor to me and themselves. There is a huge distinction between the two parties. Clinton highlighted that last night, honestly. I cannot understand anyone voting republican unless they are rich. Why would normal, middle class humans want to vote against themselves??? So their friends think they are rich or saavy or good business men? There is more to life than the Almighty Dollar of the Republican party. It defines everything to them while they wrap thmeselves in religion and social issues. There is the human soul and spirit beside the material — you can’t have mine, greedy republicans.

    Bill Clinton has such lovely hands…sort of like Eric Clapton’s. I admired them much over the 48 minutes.

  23. Nash 2.5 says:

    Why has the Obama team been “slow to trot” on Medicaid? That’s easy. They don’t think like (real) Democrats. Obama and his team are actually moderate Republicans, members of a group which doesn’t exist in the GOP anymore, but has seized the dominant position in the “Democratic” party.

    In their minds Medicaid = “poor people,” and they instinctively dislike poor people and NEVER talk about them. I think that explains why they haven’t been doing very much about voter suppression, which mostly targets urban minorities. Obama’s campaign staff doesn’t really care if poor people can vote. They think they can win without them. Barak Obama sees himself as the defender of the MIDDLE CLASS, vs Romney who Obama is trying to portray as the defender of the UPPER CLASS.

    The only things both parties agree on these days is: poor people suck, they don’t deserve anything, and they are on their own.

  24. Flatus says:

    Craig, looking at the title of your post, “Bill Clinton’s Best Gift to Obama” the thought keeps going through my mind that Mr Obama perhaps didn’t want a gift that would be staring him in the face every day.

  25. Nash 2.5 says:

    Reminder to “Bill/Hillary” worshipers…

    * Who enacted “welfare reform,” creating untold hardship for millions of low-income families, and reinforcing in the public’s mind the conservative view that poor people are lazy and undeserving? (Clinton)

    * Who deregulated Wall-Street giving them a free hand to play around with speculative derivatives and other risky schemes that eventually caused the crash of 2008? (Clintion)

  26. nemo says:

    Flatus, (..here I am, sitting in a waiting room again)

    Just curious: “Mr Obama perhaps didn’t want a gift that would be staring him in the face every day.” …. not sure what to read into that. You mean because he outshines him, or that he owes him… or maybe something completely different.?

    I do know that Clinton cares about this country more than he cares about himself. It’s so refreshing to know that he seems to have worked his way past (what I perceive as) the mistreatment he and Hillary may have suffered in the past. Or maybe it never bothered him in the first place.

  27. Blonde Wino says:

    Nash…I know Clinton and Obama have given us some “compromised” legislation. The end product never satisfies me, but it is so much better than if the republicans were able to gut the programs like they want to.

    You know how much I loathe obstructionist platforms of the can’ts…but, we can get legislation that is at least in the center rather than full right.

    Vote democratic for the Supreme Court…that was the only thing Clinton did not mention.

  28. Jamie White says:

    Nash

    Not a “worshiper” just a respecter of intelligence, energy, and vision. Bill Clinton did many things wrong. I doubt Hillary would have made those mistakes, but then she is female and has more sense. Even Bill acknowledges that she is smarter than he is. She just cleans up after the men in her life.

  29. Flatus says:

    Chloe, I think because Mr Obama is a proud man who wants to achieve his reelection based on his merit and demonstrated performance. He believes these should be obvious to his constituents. Obviously they are not.

    Through Clinton’s speech and the inevitable reviews, Mr Obama’s ability to articulate the importance of his candidacy pales in comparison to Mr Clinton’s.

    He can either say, Dawg, I really, really needed that, or he can once again become distant from this person who has every reason to hold a grudge against him, but has gotten over it.

  30. Blonde Wino says:

    So, during this political season, some humans think we should run to Romney because Obama doesn’t deserve a second term? Bitter humans, is it about the money?

    GWB never deserved a first or second term and that has nothing to do with the presidency.

    Let’s talk about deserving. I think I am deserving of a better shot in the US of AA at the hands of Obama than Romney. Obama is the lesser of two evils, much lesser.

  31. Blonde Wino says:

    Brucey the Bartlett Pear would never vote for Obama, so why pretend to be open minded about the election? Yes, he is disillusioned with repugs of today. Good for him and I am glad he is staying home.

    Fatal error on Obama? He doesn’t give a rat’s behind about anything but republicans…former Reagan/Bush guy.

  32. Katherine Graham Cracker says:

    If we elect Romney that would be the evil of two lessors

  33. Jamie White says:

    Jack

    Bartlett’s position today -- Obama’s Speech

  34. Blonde Wino says:

    Yes, the bitterness and disappointment against Obama is playing right into the hands of republican voter suppression. Stay home or vote for someone who doesn’t have a chance of getting elected…same story as 2000.

    Those pesky republicans…I believe they want to go back to only male land owners as being able to vote.

  35. whskyjack says:

    Brucey the Bartlett Pear would never vote for Obama

    didn’t read the article did you?

  36. whskyjack says:

    If we elect Romney that would be the evil of two lessors

    yeah, but it might be better for the country than electing a place holder for four more years.
    Jack

  37. whskyjack says:

    Obama really has the poppy bush problem. He is not very good on that vision thing. So tonights speech needs to be loaded with it as Clintons was last night. He also needs to show he understands middle class issues, again as clinton showed him how last night.

    Hummm, maybe he just needs to steal Clintons speech, change the names……….

    Jack

  38. Blonde Wino says:

    I watched the delegates voting on c-span as cable had pundit talk and the delegate vote in the backgroud. I watched how the vote to put Obama over the top was deferred to Ohio…it was great fun to watch each state announce. Really better than any speeches.

    Jack…I only skimmed the article because the FT kept putting a blocking screen over the article…but I did see the comment about Obama’s fatal error in addressing the health care crisis in this country…so, he is NOT going to vote for Obama this election. What did I miss?

  39. whskyjack says:

    In 2008 he was an Obama voter

  40. whskyjack says:

    btw, you ought to go ahead and register not just for this article but for other stuff on Financial Times, it is a top quality place, limited access is free.

  41. DexterJohnson says:

    I am encouraging everyone I know to make this thread their #1 priority to read right now. Thanks, Craig Crawford. Lamp

  42. mqw says:

    ● The repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1999 was part of a broad deregulatory push, championed by the likes of Fed chief Alan Greenspan, Sen. Phil Gramm (R-Tex.) and Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, that eliminated much of the oversight on Wall Street. Freed from onerous regulation, the banks could “innovate” and grow.

    ● After the repeal, banks merged into more complex and more leveraged institutions.

    ● These banks, which were customers of nonbank firms such as AIG, Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers, in turn contributed to these firms bulking up their subprime holdings as well. This turned out to be speculative and dangerous.

    So we can say that Glass-Steagall’s repeal allowed the credit bubble to inflate much larger. It allowed banks to be more complex and difficult to manage. When it all came down, the crisis was broader, deeper and more dangerous than it would have been otherwise.

    Glass-Steagall’s repeal, after 25 years and $300 million worth of lobbying efforts, culminated decades of deregulation.

    Newfangled derivatives? No oversight, reporting or reserves necessary, courtesy of the Commodities Futures Modernization Act of 2000. Subprime-lend-to-sell-to-securitizers business model? Those are the financial innovators! At least, that is what Greenspan called them, and why he refused to oversee them as Fed chairman. Rules on SEC leverage? Let’s create a special exemption from the law for just five investment banks.

  43. RebelliousRenee says:

    I don’t worship any politician… they’re just people who put their pants on one leg at a time same as everyone else. Some I like… and some I don’t like. Some I vote for… and some I don’t vote for.

    The whole world is in an economic mess. Do I think that either Romney or Obama can fix it…. nope. It will require cooperation from the whole world, IMO.

    But one thing I do know… austerity measures haven’t worked in the past and they don’t seem to be working now… not in any country. The Republicans are calling for austerity measures in this country… because of that… and social issues that I profoundly disagree with them on… I will be voting an entire Democratic ticket.

  44. Blonde Wino says:

    Thanks for the tip on FT…and Condi, Colin and a myriad of repugs endorsed President Obama in 2008, but today the repugs are coming home to roost…it is about party survival. And Brucey may be a sane conservative, but he is at odds with me over healthcare. I am glad Obama made that his priority…I remember how it just slid through at Christmas in time for all good men to go home for the holiday. But, the healthcare crisis needed to be addressed…it has been festering since Hillary tried to reform back in ’92.

  45. Blonde Wino says:

    RR…I really liked your post. It rings true with me.

  46. Blonde Wino says:

    MQW…I see you got the repug talking points memo…it was all over CNN and Faux News last night.

    Like RR stated, the whole planet is in economic recession and you are blaming Bill Clinton?

    China is sitting on three months of inventory and they can’t sell their cheap crap to their shrinking markets. I am blaming Richard Nixon.

  47. whskyjack says:

    What we really need are pictures of puppies

  48. mqw says:

    The Mexican “bailout” attracted criticism in the US Congress and the press for the central role of the former Co-Chairman of Goldman Sachs, U.S. Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin. Rubin used a Treasury Department account under his personal control to distribute $20 billion to bail out Mexican bonds, of which Goldman was a key distributor
    According to Hannibal Travis, the “former manager of $5 billion in Mexican investments at Goldman Sachs became U.S. Secretary of the Treasury and lobbied for legislation that forced U.S. taxpayers to contribute in excess of $20 billion to bail out investors in Mexican securities, in a form of ‘corporate socialism’”.[6]

  49. whskyjack says:

    BW

    MQW’s comments aren’t republican talking points, they don’t want to talk about that stuff either.
    His points are a broad condemnation of the state our political establishment. Nobody has clean hands, little has changed. We are on the verge of becoming a Kleptocracy. With the Republic on the edge, for me it is hard to get all stirred up in the culture war issues.

    Jack

  50. patd says:

    ahhhhh puppies & cat & worried momma dog
    thanks, jack, i needed that

  51. RebelliousRenee says:

    well… not to be out done by dog lovers… Smile

  52. whskyjack says:

    more puppies

  53. nemo says:

    Aaaaa! That feline sure was keeping those pups in their place, even their mama.

    Still, I was relieved when the lady came to the cats rescue before things got out of hand. If the kitty starting running the other way, things would have changed.

    We still haven’t seen a picture of your new dog yet, Jack. How’s he (or she) doing?.

  54. patd says:

    who’s calling who a dog lover, renee? not many animals i don’t love just as much. i’m an equal opportunity lover when it comes to warm and fuzzy four legged ones, at least.

  55. whskyjack says:

    Pat, Rene
    Last night my nephew posted on the family facebook, For every political rant the you had to post 2 baby pictures. His sister and dad were getting a little political(it wasn’t me)(really)(not me)

    Last night the wife took me out to look for a puppy, the house is a little lonely with out Miss Auggie around and Bo dog needs some company. As I didn’t have any baby pictures I googled for puppy pictures.
    They were a hit so I decided to bring them over here.

    Jack

  56. nemo says:

    As good as it gets

    …. puts things in perspective.

    There’s a reason the the dog stole the show in the movie : “As good as it gets” (as well as a few more movies).

  57. patd says:

    on the serious side, folks, when it comes to deciding our vote and our future perhaps we should look at the veep candidates considering that about one in five of our past presidents have died in office. health problems, heart attacks, terrorists, shit, etc can happen.

  58. whskyjack says:

    Chloe, Bo is doing well. and yeah I need to get a picture. the only picture I’ve got of him is when he first came here and he had a bare but. His hair was so matted when he was picked up that the only thing they could do was clip it close to the skin.
    He was somebodies sweety, he is well trained we walk him off the leash with no problem. Don’t know what happened between then and when we got him but he was a mess when he was picked up.
    We got lucky when we adopted him.

    Jack

  59. RebelliousRenee says:

    Jack….
    it sounds like Bo got lucky too…

    Chloe… for me… any animal in any movie steals the show… well… maybe not snakes…

  60. Oregon Democrat says:

    The Clinton’s are magnificent!!!

  61. patd says:

    Perhaps only Bill Clinton could deliver one of the most brutal partisan poundings of the other party in recent memory and come out of it with people talking about how bipartisan he is.

    For 48 minutes on Wednesday night, he extolled the virtues of working with Republicans, then eviscerated them as dangerous radicals. He offered more abundant praise of George W. Bush than most prime-time speakers at the Republican convention, then said he had left President Obama “a total mess.”

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/06/clinton-was-a-bipartisan-president-except-when-he-wasnt/?partner=rss&emc=rss

  62. mqw says:

    Blonde
    I’m on the boat working twelve hours a day , don’t watch tv too much , so I missed getting my talking points ,
    But I do have a most exellent memory .
    Just bringing a touch of reality to all this Clinton idolization
    I kinda like ole bill , but he made his share of mistakes while in office ,
    The worst would be picking up where bush sr left off on foreign policy ,Iraq
    the Waco fiasco , Just to name a couple

  63. Blonde Wino says:

    Clinton used the word Bloodsport during the speech. Haliburton and Blackwater instantly came to mind. And the days of war and the neocons…Don’t you like your freedom?

  64. Blonde Wino says:

    mcq…my apologies, I did not meant to hang the albatross on you, but I heard more about Glass Steagull last night on Faux and CNN News than I have heard in some time. Wrong assumption by me, but it was the talking point last night. They wanted to hang the financial crisis at Clinton’s feet.

    I guess the best thing we can say is all Presidents are guilty.

  65. patd says:

    Muammar Gaddafi once asked Joe Biden why Libya was on the U.S. list of terrorist nations. “Because you’re a terrorist!” Biden replied to his face. On a trip to an Indiana battery factory, Biden was shown an electric vehicle called the Think. “Who the f— names their car Think?” he asked….
    As one of his aides told me, you never have to wonder what Vice President Biden is thinking, because he just said it. He’ll be on a tight leash tonight at the Democratic convention in Charlotte, providing campaign-approved puffery…

    http://swampland.time.com/2012/09/06/you-were-a-senator-joe-bidens-weird-relationship-with-his-boss/

  66. Blonde Wino says:

    mcq…my ancient mariner…I hope you got the reference.

  67. Oregon Democrat says:

    The most telling feature of GOP talk today is that Bill’s facts go unchallenged…

  68. Blonde Wino says:

    The list is out…

    top Farmer’s Markets in the US…congratulations to Fayetteville, Arkansas as top market, Las Cruces is #2, but I am sure many of you will recognize you local markets…small, medium and large.

    http://action.farmland.org/site/PageServer?pagename=top_20_americas_favorite_farmers_markets

  69. patd says:

    jon stewart last night refuting sen.gillibrand’s argument on why there should be more women in the senate

    saying women should have more than 17 senators because they’re 51 percent of the population, but not necessarily because they’re better consensus builders

    “No disrespect to women, but they’re as idiotic as men for the most part,” he said. “We all have our problems. It’s not like if we had more women, there would be no more wars. Because I have seen shit go down at P.T.A. meetings, that you would not even believe.”

    http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/politics/2012/09/6536273/daily-show-gillibrand-talks-about-equal-pay-and-jon-stewart-makes-j?politics-bucket-image

  70. harborwoman says:

    I highly recommend “The Party Is Over: How Republicans Went Crazy, Democrats Became Useless, and the Middle Class Got Shafted” by Mike Lofgren. Lofgren is a retired (retired because he couldn’t stand watching what was happening to his party)Republican insider…worked with Republican Congressmen for 30 years at high levels. His book is somewhat depressing (well, for those of us who are sad to be witnessing the demise of our country), but I think gives an accurate view of what both parties have done to our Republic. And I love that he fingers Eric Cantor as one of the new crazies!

  71. purple-in-tampa says:

    Democrats are restoring my faith in them to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

    Jerusalem change made to party platform, over loud objections
    By Scott Wilson, Washington Post, September 5, 2012 5:10 PM

    Democratic delegates narrowly reinstated to their party platform Wednesday the position that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, reversing an omission that had angered some Jewish organizations and drew criticism from Republicans that President Obama was distancing the United States from its closest ally in the Middle East.

    The amendment to the platform, which essentially restores the language on Jerusalem from the 2008 version, was introduced by former Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland. It was put to a voice vote by Antonio R. Villaraigosa, the mayor of Los Angeles, who had to ask three times for “aye” votes before determining that the amendment had a two-thirds majority.

    Many delegates were left angry over the outcome. Some stood up from their seats inside the Time Warner Arena, shaking their fingers at Villaraigosa and booing. (A vote during the Republican National Convention on changes to party nomination rules was also controversial.


    Chaos During Dems Platform Vote

  72. Katherine Graham Cracker says:

    Congratulations Las Cruces..

    we will have to try harder next year!

  73. patd says:

    harb, here’s an interview (19min) of lofgren by bill moyers on that book you recommended:

    http://billmoyers.com/segment/mike-lofgren-on-dysfunction-in-our-political-parties/

  74. Katherine Graham Cracker says:

    CNN has on Scary Fiorino and she tried to call Democrats the party of free abortions given out freely.

    So many things wrong with the statement but mostly that it is a conversation stopper and not designed to provoke intelligent conversation. This is when you know for sure no serious reporting is taking place it’s all about the gotcha

    She remains a truly disgusting human being

  75. pogo says:

    KC, methinks you ain’t seen nuthin’ yet… I’m afraid that the worst of the repugns will be put on full display for the next couple of months. Since Romney can’t explain his own financial/budgetary program in terms anyone who doesn’t stand to gain from a tax cut benefitting the wealthiest among us will accept as anything beyond dribble down horsepiss, that leaves social issues as the targets. It will be ugly. I predict that and a Fall full of racial code words from the pugn superpacs and comedians.

  76. pogo says:

    I love messing about at RCP -- so much information. For instance, Bush had a 6 point advantage over Kerry at this point in’04 and won by 1.5 points. O & R are tied. If I recall correctly the swiftboat stuff kicked into high gear just after the conventions then -- when the two were tied. A harbinger of things to come no doubt.

  77. mqw says:

    Oops,again

    Sanaa, Yemen (CNN) -- A U.S. drone strike targeting al Qaeda suspects in Yemen killed 13 civilians, including three women, three security officials in the restive Middle Eastern country said.
    Families of the victims closed main roads and vowed to retaliate. Hundreds of angry armed gunmen joined them and gave the government a 48-hour deadline to explain the killings, which took place on Sunday.

    Eyewitnesses said that families attempted to carry the victims’ corpses to the capital, Sanaa, to lay them in front of the residence of newly elected President Abdurabu Hadi, but were sent back by local security forces.

    “You want us to stay quiet while our wives and brothers are being killed for no reason. This attack is the real terrorism,” said Mansoor al-Maweri, who was near the scene of the strike.

    The strike took place near the town of Rada in al-Baitha province on Sunday, Yemeni officials said.

  78. sturgeone says:

    clint was probably just getting a shot in the arm for his new movie. it was probably brilliant or something, but not, I think, to the Romnarians.

  79. sturgeone says:

    clint said he was so upset over the reaction he got from his convention appearance that he was going to sing another song.

  80. sturgeone says:

    that popping sound you will hear on election day is the bursting of little baptist heads as they vote for the mormian.

  81. pogo says:

    Ok Jack, I read bartletts article. So a disgruntled RWer who quit voting R because they were no longer fiscally conservative enough for his tastes and now claims to be in the truly undecided third of a third thinks Obama, for whom he voted out of a feeling of hope as an alternative to Grammy and his incompetent sidekick “you betcha” doesn’t think O paid enough attention to the economy right out of the gate and will not change in a second term and doesn’t buy Romney’s shtick and won’t vote because he doesn’t see either as an acceptable alternative is a condemnation of both? Big deal. He’ll get what others choose for him and sleep happy in the belief that it wouldn’t have been any better if he’d bothered. The beauty of that approach is you can never know whether you are right -- which is no different from voting and thinking things would be worse if you hadn’t. I’m guessing Bartlett has amassed his fortune, has it in secure investments that don’t expose him to much in the way of taxes he feels are onerous and no longer really gives a crap.

  82. Flatus says:

    I just heard another magnificent address from Rep Lewis on the historical parallels of today’s voter suppression activities to those of four decades ago.

    If the federal government and/or the courts do not prevent the suppression of minority and old folks votes, I’m ready to march against my statehouse.

    Anyone care to join me when the time is ripe?

  83. pogo says:

    Where do I sign up flatus? NOTHING pisses me off in this election environment, not the lies, not the veiled racist bullshit, nothing, more than the absolutely unamerican voter suppression activities of the right. Wait, they are racist and ageist and based on lies. I hope one of the debate commentators has the nuts to ask Willard if he will denounce those efforts to keep qualified citizens from voting.

  84. harborwoman says:

    Thanks, patd! I saw the Moyers program…which is what led me to read Lofgren’s book. But if I hadn’t already seen it, I’d be rushing to do so! Smile

  85. harborwoman says:

    flatus and pogo…

    I’m ready to march, too! There’s much that I find way beyond upsetting in today’s political climate, but I’m with both of you that the right’s voter suppression efforts are among their ugliest behaviors!

  86. RebelliousRenee says:

    mqw… you’re back on the river…. that’s good news.

    harborw… sounds like a book I’d like to read… think I’ll download it on my Kindle.

    I’m pissed as hell at the new voter ID laws too. This upcoming Tuesday is our state primary and it’ll be the first time anyone in NH will have to show an ID. I really feel for the poll workers because I know they will get a lot of gruff about it. I will comply, knowing there’s nothing they can do about it. All the effing teabaggers in our state house got it rammed through… but not a one of them will be working the polls and taking the crap. I will be voting straight Democratic for state reps…. hell.. I’d vote Democratic for dog catcher at this point.

  87. Jason Fuente says:

    Pogo -- I’m afraid you may be asking too much of the debate moderators. You see the way it works is that the politicians keep the media in submission by threatening that they will never get an interview by them again if they throw difficult questions. Prepare to find out what the candidates’ favorite colors are, though.

  88. xrepublican says:

    MQW’s 12:57pm post ought to be required reading for every high school senior, and member Congress.

    The repeal of Glass Steagall has been an outright catastrophe.

  89. Tonyb says:

    Good Evening all..
    Very good reading here today..

    Chloe,
    Your a gem!

    Pat,
    You funny too..”Vote for o Biden” LOL

    Jamie,
    Too funny about FOX Fake News, Grace had it on of course and they were singing the blues..I can’t believe how feckless they were today regarding Bill and his fact filled speech.. Usually they just lie, Bill knocked the wind out of them..

  90. xrepublican says:

    Btw, Sweetie swears she saw video of former US Senator Dave Durenburger at the convention last night. Durenburger was a ripper Sentor from MN for 16 years.

    Parenthetically, he was a major reason why I never voted ripper after 1978. I guess he must be sober now.

  91. Tonyb says:

    Nash,
    Love it, “Clinton Worshiper”, put me in that column!
    Do i like all things Bill did, hell no but over all the eight years, he rocked and so did my world…Bill made a difference in my life for the good, yep cool, i like it, Tony the Clinton Worshiper…

  92. Tonyb says:

    The repeal of Glass Steagall has been an outright catastrophe

    Agreed..

  93. Oregon Democrat says:

    Add me to the worship Bill Clinton list…

  94. Flatus says:

    If I go into politics I want to be a centaur.

  95. patd says:

    fascinating breakdown on bill’s speechifying by a former clinton speechwriter

    By one account, the former president spoke for 48 minutes and 5,895 words, while his prepared text, which had been distributed beforehand to the media, was only 3,136 words. No wonder, when asked about her husband’s speech, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said she was looking forward to comparing the “as prepared” and “as delivered” texts.

    Reviewing each version, it’s clear that the same person wrote both — the same president who improvised 20% of his first State of the Union address and explained his health-care plan from memory to a joint session of Congress after the teleprompter displayed the text of an earlier speech.
    [....]
    As president, Clinton would refer to most of his formal remarks not as speeches but as “talks,” subtly reminding his staff that he wanted to address Americans as adults to be persuaded, not an audience to be manipulated. By improvising so often, and using so few freeze-dried and focus-grouped applause lines, Clinton continues to keep his speeches fresh, friendly and factual in the hope that his listeners will open their minds to what he says.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/06/opinion/kusnet-clinton-speech-style/index.html

  96. patd says:

    jack, time for another kitten and doggie break

  97. Oregon Democrat says:

    Jennifer Granholm’s gave a great speech, bringing the convention goers to their feet. MSNBC had their boring panel droning on and ignored Granholm…

    Why MSNBC has that dolt, Ed Schultz, on the air is beyond me…

  98. patd says:

    od, even pbs kept ongoing rap during speeches so i tuned to cspan. unadulterated, unabridged adult entertainment

  99. Katherine Graham Cracker says:

    I think that there will be a convention bounce for the Democrats ..even if it just among people who want to vote for people who are awake and moving

    I watched a little bit of fox --I hit the jackpot O’Reilly with Rove…with O’Reilly carrying on about Carolyn Kennedy using her Catholicism to explain her position on abortion …I hope he was as outraged over Paul Ryan using his religion to justify his position on abortion.

  100. nemo says:

    “…. we walk him off the leash with no problem.”

    Smart dog, Jack. He knows he’s got it made!
    So happy that you have given him a good home.

    I could never get along without my little pets.

    …. long sigh of relief. Things are now quiet here on my home front, and I’m going to sit down to watch a good foreign movie.

  101. Katherine Graham Cracker says:

    I don’t care for Joe Biden — the less the better

  102. xrepublican says:

    Btw, I’m trying to remember. Didn’t wrong pol vote to repeal Glass Steagall? I think he did.

  103. Katherine Graham Cracker says:

    And Dana Bash..what is a transactional candidate
    transactional was her word of the week and I have no idea what she meant but she said it about 800 times

  104. xrepublican says:

    Could Dana Bash be proposing a quid pro quo ? That’s transactional.

  105. Ignoble exChamp says:

    Holy Guacamole, what a bull&%#$ fest!

  106. Ignoble exChamp says:

    Hey, ever since I posted my proposed GOP campaign motto (“Backwards to the Future”), I’ve noticed a lot of trans-dimensional time themes coming out of the DNC. It was a joke, and no stealing my ideas!

  107. Ignoble exChamp says:

    …and who the heck is Bill Clinton to criticize deregulation? That guy deregulated every industry he could.

  108. Ignoble exChamp says:

    Phew, I’m all done. I feel better now.

    Paul/Nader 2012

  109. xrepublican says:

    “And many of the Republican bobblehead women are showing a lot of cleavage….” -Ms Cracker @7:50am

    ?!? Ann coulter is showing cleavage ?!?

    How long was she on the donor list?

  110. xrepublican says:

    Xiggie,

    Who better than Bill Clinton to admit that deregulating Wall Street was a mistake ?

    Well … maybe that aynrandian greenspan guy would be good.

  111. xrepublican says:

    A bullshift fest is what the political convention has become since richard nixon’s appalling coronation in ’72.

    That conventions get worse and worse is to be expected after 40 years of this hokum and bluster. Instead, I catch certain speeches that people recommend. I won’t watch the rest of the posturing anymore ever again. That’s what friends and relatives are for -- to vet the convention speeches. If there were contests such as the parties experienced in 1960,things might be different.

    We can hope for better in 2016.

    Goodnight

  112. bethyboo says:

    KGC, I had trouble deciding whether it would be worthwhile
    to throw something at Carli Fiorina if I had no chan cf hitting her, and while I was debating that Queen Meg showed her self-satisfied face, and I was overwhelmed and gave up.
    I hope CA is as guaranteed as it seems, but I gotta tell everyone here who is not from CA, You have to really work at it to understand how disgusting it was to have all those
    commercials everywhere. Those are two horrible horrible women.

    Michelle looks like her mother..

    Joe’s doing beautifully. I always loved this man.

    Did someone try to say that Bill was perfect? I know I didn’t, but I take him as he is and find him just delightful, and Hillary, too. Bill might have compromised
    but then, he’s no repub. Give him a break -- he brought us out on top.