“When he was asked what he would do to actually cut spending and reduce the deficit, he said he’d eliminate public television funding. But I just want to make sure I got this straight. He’ll get rid of regulations on Wall Street — but he’s going to crack down on Sesame Street.” – President Obama in Wisconsin (10/04)
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NEW YORK (AP) — Big Bird has never been so hot. “Saturday Night Live,” Jimmy Fallon, Piers Morgan, the “Today” show and “Good Morning America” all asked for appearances from the “Sesame Street” character on Thursday after he was unexpectedly thrust into the presidential campaign by Mitt Romney. Sesame Workshop says the giant yellow Muppet is declining all appearances, but there was this tweet from Big Bird on the Sesame Street account: “My bed time is usually 7:45, but I was really tired yesterday and fell asleep at 7! Did I miss anything last night?”
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Big Bird woohooo
In hindsight Obama’s debate performance will be considered brilliant. Rmoney is such a maroon he went on Sean Hannity’s show and took back the 47% remark as being just wrong.
This is why Obamarama didn’t bring up that stuff cuz clearly mittens would have hung his head and said “I sorry I wuz wrong”
Soladad OBrien called it his etch a sketch moment — I would call it ANOTHER etch-a-sketch moment.
Why did he call out PBS/big bird? He thinks of them as frivolous and an easy target
why didn’t he call out military wasteful spendIng?
Because he is a bully. and creepy guy
(Sorry, repost from previous thread where I inadvertently posted this)
KC, neither Gallup nor Rasmussen, the only two tracking polls RCP reports, have released anything that includes responses through 10/4 — the day after the debate unless their 10/3 data were collected late Wednesday. I expect that we’ll see something show up there today that will include 10/4 polling.
What HAS changed is RCP’s EC map. It now shows Obama at 269 and Rmoney at 181 (with 7 states — 88 votes — as toss ups) This represents an additional 22 votes in Obama’s column and 10 less from Rmoney’s in the past 2 weeks. Obama leads in 5 of those 7 toss up states. The no tossup map gives Obama a 126 point margin over Rmoney.
Things may not be as bleak for Obama as the media likes to make out.
Pogo
I went back an edited my comment to you when I realized the tracking poll is really a day behind.
The 538 analysis of presidential debates over the last 30+ years shows very little impact
Forget Big Bird, the monthly jobs report numbers are going to be released in about 5 min. Up or down or sideways the spinning begins.
Jack
The report is in 7.8%. Big Bird hasn’t applied for unemployment yet!
Jobs number out and Obamarama is a big winner
jobless rate now under 8%
As is the way for the can’ts…MSM are applauding a performance filled with lies. Obama never mentioned the 47% and Rmoney had a really good answer prepared for that…so, they gave him airtime to get his prepared answer on the airwaves.
Show us your taxes, Rmoney and bring home that money you have off shored to avoid taxes…that would at least get my attention. Otherwise, Rmoney is a really good liar and the republicans really respect that.
jack, no way. that’s just another gender bender gaffe. think of all the moms and teachers (predominately female) who are beholden to that critter. me thinks mitthittable just widen the gender gap vote…. a yawning crevasse now.
patd…Rmoney last seen with Big Bird in a cage on top of his car….
Here is something that works better than sitting your child in front of the TV, who needs Big Bird
surprise surprise, big oil’s oily hands are attempting the october surprise by upping the price of gas. syria turkey this time. eventually they’re going to run out of excuses. might as well come out and admit this is more effective (and more lucrative) way to manipulate the election than by pac ads.
only good out of the increase is that it also increases the interest in solar, wind, fuel cells and other renewable energy products and markets. hmmm, this could mean we tree huggers may lose an election but regain a world.
Romney gave 47 percent of the population the ‘big bird’.
So what’s one more?
Great one, Jace!!!
jace, i can see it now: a run on big bird costumes, mobs of yellow feathered hecklers at campaign stops from now til election day, all holding those big finger signs (strategically altered of course) waving to the cameras.
In the interview with Hannity, when Mittens reverses himself on the 47% he is blinking like crazy — I think it’s the real Mitt saying..”don’t believe a word you hear I still think they are slugs”
Town hall event questions aren’t likely going to ask what many of us would -- f’rinstance here’s mine:
“Gov. Rmoney, you told your big ass donors that it wasn’t your job to worry about the 47% of people who pay no income taxes, all of whom will vote for Pres. Obama, and who you can’t expect to be able to get them to take responsibility for their own lives. You told Hannity that what you said was wrong. What part of that stupid fucking statement to your big ass donors was wrong, and what do you really believe about retirees, the unemployed, the working poor and the disabled?”
Maybe Mitt is like the Uggabugga — there is no real Mitt he is just a big bag of Republican hot air and when you poke around the whole thing collapses
I like Pogo’s question and I think you should submit it to Candy Crowley she is the moderator of the next presidential debate.
My questions is why don’t you believe in the separation of church and state?
From the last thread: PBS & BIg Bird
Damn, we need to reach out to the preschool community! That’s a huge voting bloc!
: 
Meanwhile, your seriously befuddled local ghost writer would appreciate a brief from you lawyer types over at http://fairweatherlewis.wordpress.com. If I were filing one, it would be forty pages of bwahahahaha--but I’m not a lawyer.
“Damn, we need to reach out to the preschool community! That’s a huge voting bloc!”
: 
Faire,
It’s the only voting block that hasn’t been suppressed.
re: the debates (a movie analogy)
Rocky I: Rocky loses.
Rocky II: Rocky wins.
It was much more “dramatic” for Obama to lose the first one. Now he is the underdog who can make a “comeback.”
Romney doesn’t want to get rid of “Sesame Street,” he just wants to “privatize” it.
Big Bird will just have to learn to sell sugary breakfast cereals and expensive toys.
It will still be an “educational” show. Kids will learn all about the wonders of “clean coal” and why labor unions are bad. A new Muppet, the “Commie Monster” will try to stir up trouble among the workers but he will always be foiled by “Sally the Strikebreaker,” who will lead the cast in singing the national anthem, while hitting Commie Monster with a baseball bat.
A lot of wishing going on today. You people must be scared after Obama phoned it in the other night. Do you really believe Obama’s poor performance was planned? That he is hatching some diabolical plot to trap the Republicans? lol
Jack
I had a sleepless night worried about a republican takeover…I kept thinking about Jim Lehrer and the format so easily hijacked.
In reality, Lehrer got bained. Romney essentially fired him at the beginning of the debate. And then rode roughshod over him during his takeover of the debate. Perhaps, Big Bird can be off-shored during a PBS baining, but not Lehrer. He is finished as a Presidential debate moderator.
And Obama let this happen, perhaps to show how baining is accomplished. I doubt that, but it sure makes me wish that were true.
Jack…so true. I am scared to pieces that Obama will feed us to the republicans. I doubt if any of us think Obama would fight for us…that was the topic of conversation here with Mudcat…four years ago.
Zombies, vampires and republicans — all making a comeback at the same time. I’m scared!
From the first time he started speaking publicly as our President, there has hardly been an occasion that he has spoken without the aid of multiple teleprompters.
I recognize the need for accuracy, and the messiness that is caused should he go off on a tangent while ignoring the real points that were to be addressed. But, still, we deserve a president who has the inherent ability to speak extemporaneously on virtually any subject within his scope of worries.
I am concerned as all hell that Mr Obama does not have the ability. And Mr Romney has proved himself to be nothing more than a shrill, loud mouthed bully who will stifle the collegial interactions needed to make the Office of the President truly serve the People.
What a damned mess we are in.
faire, good idea but be prepared for tempting contempt penalties.
as for your clients, maybe they could bill the estate for cleaning up the original blood stains, broken furniture, emt bills incurred; but the haunting probably comes under the rubric “acts of god”… handy catch-all for courts and insurance claims agents.
our illustrious colleague, counselor pogo, can surely give you a far more colorful, costly and legaleesely answer.
Hi Jack,
Oh yes, if i believed the last 4 years Obama planned to be this incredible wimpy President. The debate the other night was just more of Obama being Obama. Nice guy that doesn’t like confrontation. Ah buts that’s a big part of his job unless you crumble in the face of your political adversaries, oh wait that’s what happens over and over with the President.
bw, so very sadly true. no country for old gentlemen anymore.
seems the debate was won by the incivility of a masterdebator.
The latest cartoon from the son and heir
Debate
Yep! I’m not thrilled about voting day but vote we must. It will be thrilling to see Romney lose but not thrilling to see President Obama win, ugh.
As I posted on prior comments, I saw a lot of ‘Donald Trump’ in Romney’s performance. The phrase “picking winners” to Obama (this phrase was used twice) and “you’re fired” to Lehrer. It did seem like Romney was auditioning for a spot on The Apprentice. The forceful CEO…telling humans, “I like you — you’re fired.” Just like he did with Lehrer…as if he had that power. The best smoke and mirrors money can buy.
http://craigcrawford.com/2012/10/05/big-bird-fallout/#comment-299965
BW,
Excellent comment. I agree with you.
And, I suppose, all this gets to why a bunch of us were blind with anger as to how Hillary was cut-down last time around. She got over it as did we, but, now, Obama has to have the balls to shove this thing through to the end.
When I listened to Willard (it is Halloween season) talk about healthcare insurance during the debate, I had to laugh. A very typical republican response — If I don’t like my healthcare insurance, I can just switch companies. He is so wealthy, he has never heard of “open enrollment?” Never been on hold to talk to a human. The endless rotation of bad information. This is the party that wants seniors, the comatose and handicapped to negotiate with puny vouchers in hand with insurance companies? A very out of touch rich man. Healthcare doesn’t bankrupt the rich.
When I and my playmates were toddlers, several of the houses on our suburban Cleveland Heights street still heated with coal.
When the deliveries of anthracite were made, we were thrilled because the deliveryman would usually toss us a couple of small pieces to play with.
This is the same natural resource that the industry and repugs are trying to tout as “clean coal”.
At the time, you could have asked our mothers about that!
whaddya mean “we” white man?
I have you beat, Flatus. One year my sister and I received a nicely wrapped box of dirty coal for Christmas. We had been wickedly bad most of the year. Of course, we eventually got our presents, but the tears and the moping about the dirty coal! I guess that never left me.
The gift of coal that keeps giving — black lung.
Patd
I read “Mitthittable” as “Mehitabel” and wondered why you were writing about my favorite female of easy virtue. “Song of Mehitabel”
this is fun, Taiwanese perspective on debate …
a rare concession from Erick Erickson
Sheesh, that was merely the imperial ‘we’.
Thanks, Craig. I needed that…loved the donkey heads at home throwing tomatoes at the tv.
Rasmussen:
Jack Welch = Clint Eastwood
Craig, your 11:57 is Taiwanese rather than Korean
ah thanks Flatus, fixed
what’s this from taegan’s political wire that mitt cheated?
wonder if that’s how he got thru harvard biz and law… better check those cliff notes for debating tricks. reminds me of shrub’s and ronny’s debates: always suspected a tiny earpiece cueing action and relaying answers.
538 quotes the ipsos poll but basically says it is unreliable
He has a long post on the various factors to look at once the poll numbers come out. I think this is going to be a let-down for the Rmoney people
Poor poor Republicans cooked polls, cooked jobs numbers, cooked candidate
BW, kids these days simply don’t understand counseling sessions in which threats of lumps of coal are invoked!
There has been commentary about the debating technique of just mass dumping lies in an authoritative manner on your opponent so that it becomes virtually impossible to counter one statement because of the flood. Romney used it very effectively and the fact checkers are only catching up today when the majority of people aren’t truly paying attention. Now it will be up to the President to come prepared next time to call the windsock on the flip flops and asking him which statement is true.
I would suggest the following question: “On (date) you said, on (date) you said, on (date) you said … Would you please share with us which of those statements is true?”
I see that everyone is still at it.! Not once has anyone spoke to the truth that this is all a staged game for the ignorant.!!
I did not see one minute of the mighty debate…but have concluded by all i have read that it was a donald trump reality show…..you all been punked.!
There is not too much for them to debate….since they mostly do, say and agree on how to fuck the middle class….there is no two party system…..there is just the green party………
bw, suggested tweak:
Jack Welch = Clint Eastwood’s chair
The 2007-2009 financial crisis was fundamentally a problem of excessive private debt, not public debt, the collapse of asset bubbles in real estate created by Wall Street with junk mortgages and of course deregulation that started in the 1970s and went viral during Clinton’s second term.
The European Union (EU) strategy is to impose austerity on member country populations that have caused double dip recessions in a number of countries. You would think that we would learn from their actions but that would be too simple.
Did Obama Blame the Financial Crisis on Budget Deficits?
By Matt Stoller, October 4, 2012 5:56 pm
Presidential Debate 2012 (Complete) Romney vs.Obama -- 10/3/2012
Audio problems during the first 2 minutes and 41 seconds.
Rasmussen the republican fluffer and cheerleader
speaking of cooked polls
KGC, Rasmussen does weight his samples to include more Republicans, claims it’s more accurate compared to past actual turnout. Most pollsters disagree with him. But anyway, that makes his numbers interesting (come Sunday) because should be the high water mark for any post-debate Mitt bounce
Let me correct that statement
Rasmussen weights his samples to allow for voter suppression.
In previous years Rasmussen has been wrong especially when he is weighting his polls
Gallup’s 3-day tracker updates at 1pm, but, like Rasmussen, will only include one post-debate day, full results Sunday
A real debate would have included a third party candidate……but then they might have had to ask real questions…..not the ones that are told that could be asked, or not asked by the R’s and D’s.
solar, bet you didn’t show up at the coliseum either for christians vs lions. what kinda roman are you missing all the fun like that.
ha, i knew it was just a matter of time: Big Bird protester at today’s Romney rally in Virginia
solar, for the record the debate commission rules give the moderators sole control of questions, and not shown to commission or campaigns in advance. Lehrer can only blame himself
Luvs Y pat for the calming effect that you have on me…..and on the trail.
No…like i keep saying…the only winners at the coliseum are the lions….
Football was a little bit of fun with all players, the late night clown shows, and the public in general…it was great sport no?
And then the inevitable happened….the owners (lions) got them in the corner and its all back to normal…….
Flatus,
From the time I was born until I was about 6 years old we lived in a house with a coal fired furnace. I remember getting in trouble, more than once, for playing in the coal bin in the basement. I remember the coal deliveries. Clean coal, now that is magic!
Obama actually moved up a point in new 3-day Gallup that includes one post-debate day. Still gotta wait for Sunday to see complete post-debate numbers
Housekeeping: I am fiddling again but this should be a good thing. Now, your comment editing should be smoother. When you save an edit it doesn’t have to rebuild page to display the change. Makes it quicker and less drag on the server. Let me know if any problems.
Purple, you brought back fond memories. I used to love playing with the coal in my grandfather’s basement. That was my reward for hauling it upstairs when he needed.
craig, today’s thread in honor of big bird should be retitled “la cage aux folles”
“solar, for the record the debate commission rules give the moderators sole control of questions, and not shown to commission or campaigns in advance. Lehrer can only blame himself”
Really.!
they make up the rules as they go
“As President Obama and Mitt Romney prepare to square off in Denver, Colorado tonight, we look at how the Democrats and Republicans manage to shut out all third parties from the presidential debates. The Obama and Romney campaigns have secretly negotiated a detailed contract that dictates many of the terms of the 2012 presidential debates. This includes who gets to participate, as well as the topics raised during the debates. We’re joined by George Farah, founder and executive director of Open Debates, and author of the book, “No Debate: How the Republican and Democratic Parties Secretly Control the Presidential Debates.” [Includes rush transcript]
And Obama is over 50%
The Republicans are a pretty sad bunch when they get excited over a manufactured performance of no value — and that is the only thing they’ve got.
Mitt himself was their last resort and he could only give the appearance of delivering (Not Ann, Not Paul Ryan, Not the economy, not the rightwing loonies and not even Mitt can turn the good ship hms mittblunder around. He was so excited to take back his 47% remark that when Obama didn’t ask him..he got sean hannity to do it.
Solar, oh sure totally agree the rules are rigged to make it very difficult for third party candidates to get it in, but even so it has happened — Perot met the threshold. Topics are set in advance but so broad the moderators can do just about anything. But I’ve never seen any credible accusation that the actual questions are controlled.
Pat,
Sorry, what I meant in my post to you about football: Was all the fun the substitute refs were providing ….but as usual…the ticket buyers will be the ones that lose….
The fiction portrayal of a voter trying to find out what is going on…”Jeanine from Des Moine” is worth watching. Public policy often seems an abstract notion, this movie makes it very clear that for many public policy is all to real.
To anyone who suggests there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats — watch this movie.
And ABC and CNN to bad you got punked
Craig,
And yet tens of millions of so-called “grown ups” watch this obvious bull….. with baited breath and at rapt attention…. thinking that it truly matters. This certainly bodes nothing but ill for the future.
Lets do something on the next debate….something extra…lets see how Candy the crawly does for her sponsors….bet she promotes it just like she is told to do….
These debates belong in a special place that we tax payer pay for….like you know….where the president tells us how good the country is doing….here in il…i sometimes tune into the congress to see what is going on….
Here is the point:
Are we getting great quality argument from these controlled debates…….or are we going to elect the potus from a point of ignorance…….never mind…i know the answer to thata one…..later
Jack,
I did not bookmark that example of the two party system that you posted…..the one showing how they are both the same using the ratchet….steadily keeping them both on a straight line working together and against the middle class….if you have that article handy….post it…and often…kinda keeps the rah rahing stuff down a little…
thanks
Never mind Jack…found it:
” The American political system, since at least 1968, has been operating like a ratchet, and both parties — Republicans and Democrats — play crucial, mutually reinforcing roles in its operation.
The electoral ratchet permits movement only in the rightward direction. The Republican role is fairly clear; the Republicans apply the torque that rotates the thing rightward.
The Democrats’ role is a little less obvious. The Democrats are the pawl. They don’t resist the rightward movement — they let it happen — but whenever the rightward force slackens momentarily, for whatever reason, the Democrats click into place and keep the machine from rotating back to the left.
Here’s how it works. In every election year, the Democrats come and tell us that the country has moved to the right, and so the Democratic Party has to move right too in the name of realism and electability. Gotta keep these right-wing madmen out of the White House, no matter what it takes.
(Actually, they don’t say they’re going to move to the right; they say they’re going to move to the center. But of course it amounts to the same thing, if you’re supposed to be left of center. It’s the same direction of movement.)
So now the Democrats have moved to the “center.” But of course this has the effect of shifting the “center” farther to the right.
Now, as a consequence, the Republicans suddenly don’t seem so crazy anymore — they’re closer to the center, through no effort of their own, because the center has shifted closer to them. So they can move even further right, and still end up no farther from the “center” than they were four years ago.
In fact, the Democrats’ rightward shift not only enables the Republicans to move farther right themselves; it actually compels them to do so, if they want to maintain their identity as the angry-white-guy party par excellence. (A great part of the Republicans’ hysterical hatred of Bill Clinton arose from this cause: with Democrats like Clinton, who needs Republicans?)
The ratchet clicks: Nixon. The pawl holds: Carter. Click again: Reagan. And again: Bush Senior (and Iraq War I). The pawl holds: Clinton. Click: Bush Junior and Iraq War II; then another click, and it’s Bush Junior triumphant, and God knows what to come.
Has the phrase “conspiracy theory” crept into your mind yet? Let me exorcize it. This is not a vast conspiracy. Nobody planned it out. What I am offering here is a structural explanation, not a conspiracy theory. There is a very important difference. Perhaps an analogy will help.
I assume that most people reading this book believe in the Darwinian theory of evolution. We often speak of the “function” or “purpose” of anatomical structures — like your liver, or your thumb, or the hammerhead shark’s odd cranium. But this way of talking doesn’t commit us to believing that somebody planned these structures out. They were not contrived; they evolved.
The same holds true for the rightward ratchet in contemporary American politics. No Machiavelli schemed it into existence; it evolved. And it evolved for the same reason that anything evolves: it was useful. But useful to whom? ”
http://tinyurl.com/9gte9tr
After seeing Ahnold on the tv all weekend confirming what a jerk he is….and confirming that Shriver knew he was a creep with women and defended him anyway and cut off the investigation of the charges he was a harasser (still waiting for the followup Tom Brokaw!)
Ahnold was a terrible, horrible governor and California is worse for having elected him. And I blame her.
Craig,
Loved the comment I heard earlier today about Big Bird: “Mitt Romney sure ruffled a lot of feathers!”
Purple,
I don’t do the thumbs up or down thing…but I do want U to know that i read and like almost all of what u write-post….it all keeps it kind of real, like others here….
Corporations crash the economy, lobby for “right to work”, ship manufacturing jobs overseas and cut spending on education and infrastructure, but now it is the President’s fault. Jobs for educated at at 4%. The programs that would change the figures for the lower middle and poverty classes don’t exist.
actually hers is the exception — she won’t be asking any questions. it’s a town hall with only audience questions (don’t know how they’re chosen, sure it’s on commission site somewhere: http://debate.org)
Houston Chronicle cartoon
Heads on a Platter
solar, thanks for the link that said
some of those contract terms:
amount of duck tape available to be applied to biden in between questions
number of electrified whoopee cushions per party to wake audience mid-debate
cost of streaker to run behind speakers in case cushions don’t work
Jamie the “evil corporation” is such a terrible cliche.
There is no such thing as “the corporations”, it is sloppy culture war thinking that keeps us from solving any of the problems we have.
Jack
GMO labeling is on the California ballot
you’d think people would be proud of their accomplishments and want to put it on the label
but no
Ha, Santorum on Piers Morgan last night:
I was surprised at Rasmussen and Gallup tracking polls showing no dip for O -- even though each contains only one post debate day.
Jack Welch and Allen West -- what a pair.
Yes, you can like what you kill, particularly when it is food. I don’t think that has the same connotation as killing what you like.
Jack
I don’t believe in conspiracies. It is much more practical to trust human self interest and or greed for various actions. Corporations consist mainly of men who either by inheritance on connections are ensconced in very nice offices. They all talk to each other, eat dinner with each other, marry each others children, and pretty much have no contact with where the majority of people live that is closer than the waiter at their favorite restaurant or the flight attendant in first class.
Since they are rewarded greatly for making a profit, the bigger the profit the better. This can make them blind to the ethical and long term rewards of benefitting the ranks below them unless they are among those who have been instilled with a great degree of empathy. Without a set of family values and an education that emphasizes the liberal arts of history, literature and political theory and not just business and economics, it is easy for them to slip into selfish and/or even criminal actions that benefit only them or their companies.
Was Santorum being interviewed while out campaigning for Akin?
Oh and I’ll get back later because I have to think it out, but this same sort of blindness to reality exists on the lowest end of the economic spectrum as well as the top, but I need to think out how to express that adequately.
yep….obama knew that romney was going to say anything he thought he needed to regardless of prior utterings and so he let romney have rope in the first one to get him on record for something….cutting it close to the edge but that’s the way ali did it and it works…get the Rom-man on the record…let him make his statements etc…sandbagging, rope-a-dope whatever you want to call it.
That’s one theory.
Pogo, I don’t think debate changed enough votes to give Mitt more than maybe a 2-pt bounce, which would still leave him a bit behind. In those lopsided debate performance polls there were a lot of Obama supporters saying Prez lost but that sure doesn’t mean they’re suddenly gonna vote from Romney. And there are so few undecideds left they’d have to break really hard for Mitt after his debate win for a big shift in the matchups Sunday. For comparison, Kerry got a 5-pt bounce after his first debate rout of Bush, still lost — and I’ll be surprised if Romney gets that much.
Sturg, I agree, thought it was a fine strategy but don’t understand why Obama camp falling on their mea-culpa swords — unless that’s a head fake to appease angry supporters, i dunno
Obamarama can use the Rmoney debate win to excite his own base --make sure people don’t get complacent
The people who I watched the debate did not think Rmoney won — they thought Obama was too polite and Lehrer a terrible moderator
I had close to a million dollars in construction equipment…..it is all gone…..how the fuck am i supposed to play this game of voting for the lesser of two evils…..it started with Bush, and Obama kept it up…..
They are both equally guilty of having the people in place to steal our treasures….and did it with the help of the blind followers…Obamas team is the same ones that did all of this harm…..is he going to go to wall st again for new people?….when you protect the Blue or the REd ….you are not protecting the middle class ….
I don’t know where all the jobs are…but they are not in the small corporations….my 401k….does not exist any more….I have had to take care of those around me for 6 years now….
Obama is not showing me…..or any middle of the road independent that he will adopt a new attitude of helping us….but go ahead and tell me that he is better than the other…..well i guess that he is….but i would rather get it over with….with whatever is going to happen….right now…Obama is just another way of torture…a slow one.
I know that he will get elected…b/c there just is noone to replace him….the other party is a joke….
Obama, his wife, his family….are now in the 1%….we are nothing to them.!!!
why does jack welch sound like big bird?
jack welch spelled backwards spells sorry asshole.
My last post for a while again until this is all over…maybe.
XR,
U made fun of the way that I would like to have a third party….and then went and described it a little…..no my friend that is not what one would look like.
As a matter of fact…you would not be able to recognize one if it bit you on the ass….
There was one while you were not too happy with the Republicans a while back…..it was call the
‘NATURAL LAW PARTY’
Here is thier platform…..you missed it by a mile…….we all did.!!!
http://tinyurl.com/8okhkyb
Rmoney made a big deal about how he got along with the Democratic legislature and got thing done. A reporter from the Mass and that era said -- the state has a strong legislature and a weak governor.-- the legislature dragged him along not the other way around.
As for his schools claim -- this guy said -- he was in office when the award came out but he had only been in office eight months -- so it is kind of like taking credit for the weather.
I was hoping they would ask in the reporters view, why Mittens did not run for a second term.
Solar
I think everyone here would support a viable third party or independent candidates — I think a number of people in safe states are planning to vote for Peace and Freedom, Green Party or regional third party candidates.
The election laws are the biggest stumbling blocks to viable third parties. If you want multiple parties, ballot access and financial parity has to be awarded.
It isn’t about specific issues for party success it’s about the process.
Over my active time in politics, I have seen third party movements and candidates that impacted elections but not seen a third party that could get it together.
For awhile it looked like the green party might be able to do it but I think Ralph blew it up.
I don’t know what it means but the fastest growing segment of registered voters is independent.
I think people like being affiliated with a political party. Americans are team players and we like to be part of things.
It will be interesting to see how this all works out.
I understand your frustration and think your situation is very scary and stressful. What would be helpful to you? What should the government be doing to help out small construction businesses.
Solar,
I think you are great and I am glad to see you active. You and I do think alike on a large number of issues and we have some differences. Welcome to the real world.
During the 1980s I lived around Trenton New Jersey which was a little over a half hour drive to Sesame Street Place in Langhorne, PA. I have met and have pictures of my daughter and son with Big Bird, Cookie Monster, Oscar the Grouch, etc. There is now a Sesame Street at Busch Gardens here in Tampa so I have pictures of my grandchildren with Big Bird, Cookie Monster, Oscar the Grouch, Elmo, etc. If Romney wants to fire Sesame Street (he loves to fire people) he will have a lot flack from all the people that grew up with them.
P.S. I just love to see that SOB Jack Welch squirm about his absurd tweet about the jobs numbers.
Hey KGC, thanks for the reply.
The natural law party was a very viable third party:
It had elected officials in every state…make that in about 44 states…from dog catcher to senator and Congress people…in other words….it was a grass root party…did all what it should have….but they ran out of $…the two partys rand them out by upping up the price that it takes to get noticed…..
It takes a billion dollars to get elected potus…and we all play the game that it is important to watched pre anointed kings debate one another….the large banks, corps couldn’t care less….they have their man doing inside trading for them……
I can take the drip, drip of it all….what we need to do IMO…is to take the plunge….vote for anyone other then the two….it will upset the apple cart to where all the rotten ones will roll out.!!
As a matter of fact….what we should be doing: is voting people out….not in…then it would be easy to mind the store….we have it backwards….
KGC…the myth of bi-partisanship. Many like Newt and Rmoney, pull it out of their pocket when they need it…the truth is it takes two, baby! Democrats are always dismissed like an unlucky side of the equation.
As for Santorum…he promoted Sandusky for an “Angel Award,” but wants to kill-off Big Bird! He deserves the PBC Oinker Award!
lots of chatter on tv about obama’s body language. don’t understand the surprise- its the same as in 2008- with a few less snide glances. thought it was rude back then and still do.
ran into one of the top hillraisers today.
Solar,
I was thinking about the Natural Law Party. Around here the Party seemed at first to be dominated by Transcendental Meditators. Maybe they were Brethren like Rachel Paulose rather than Hindus. Anywhat, at first I thought they wouldn’t be a viable party because of the preponderance of South Asians in top party positions. Maybe it was different in Illinois.
I also remember thinking it was a perverse providence that lifted the self-centered blowhard james janos dba jesse the bullshifter ventura to the Governor’s seat when Natural Law had several serious brains who espoused superior ethics. Their greatest fault was their belief that politics should be rational -- like a bunch of bloodless Dukakises calculating cold clinical decisions. All that’s nice in Aristotelean theory, but emotional, passionate Pericles won the elections.
I don’t discount the honesty, intelligence, and superior wonkitude of some 3d Parties. However, the best of them infiltrate the Major League Parties, and bring their planks and values with them.
As much as I admire John Anderson, I think he got reagan elected. As much as I once admired ralph nadir, I think his campaign damaged Al Gore.
Sorry to be somewhat disjointed. I’m grossly overfed and underslept.
Good night.
PS. Jim Lehrer has always been a hands off ‘debate’ emcee. PBS should have chosen Bill Moyers.
Better yet, David Brancacchio.
Oooooeeeee, DB would’ve had both of them strapped to the roof of the car.
Good night, for sure.
http://craigcrawford.com/2012/10/05/big-bird-fallout/#comment-299947
BW…
This ones for you and patd…
Have a great evening and good night to all.
LATE BREAKING NEWS: From LNN (Liars National Network)
October 6, 2012.
Jobless rate drops to 7.8 percent.
Republicans claim Reagan Tax Cuts, starting to kick in.
Regarding Santorum on Piers Morgan, I shook my head at that quote. I have a feeling that, if Romney loses, 2014 and 2016 will see a new level of crazy for the Republican party. There is no turning back now for these people. What are they going to do next? Sacrifice a Moderate Republican before each debate?
Real Time with Bill Maher was pretty interesting. I had never heard of Will Cain prior to the show. I was not exactly impressed with what he said. But it was a stark contrast to Bill Maher and Kerry Washington. Frank Luntz seemed pretty calm.
Funny thing about ‘Big Bird’, his network found an old Marine on oxygen that picked up NVA dairy in 1965. That aired Tuesday night as the season opener of the “History Detectives”.
Half the show told this story, following Wes Cowan. I was in tears.
Forget ‘Big Bird’ , Runmoney is talkin’ about killing ‘Antiques Road Show” .
These people vote. 5 year olds don’t.
“Vietnam Diary” gave peace to an old Marine , before he dies , and made a family in Vietnam have some peace about where their loved one went, and how he died .
You’ll be tearing-up as soon as the segment starts, and you can’t believe what Wes Cowan & the “History Detectives” did.
http://video.pbs.org/video/2284993448
It took them about 22 min. to spin out the story, none of it was not broken up with ads for ‘peter pills’ and how ‘clean’ coal is.
At the end, the old Marine on oxygen, had all his ghosts fly away. PBS always tells our greater stories.
I’m gettin’ all misty.
--Maynard G. Krebs
I swear that was serendipitous….
I did have some marines and armiers in my ww2 oncles…mostly south pacific guys….
me and my uncle aubrey was sitting in his parlor in birmingham alabama and somehow was looking at his south pacific photo album….it was i guess you would say graphic and stark…..I said, ” Did you kill any Japs?”
He closed the book and we went to watching Red Skelton.
ap, thanks for that danziger “wait, take jim lehrer” cartoon. bet jim liked it too and bet he’s ordered a framed copy to be displayed in pbs hallowed halls.
willard the half-mitted gaffed bigtime yesterday with the phrase “when i’m president”… tempting the fates.
sturge and all you other classics experts out there, wasn’t it hubris that did in all those antiquated guys?
who knows tho’ maybe he followed it up sub rosa with a “god willing” or knocked on wood or made an anti-curse gesture to ward off the evil spirits who heard him.
solar, no way and leave me alone here with all these extremists, stuffed shirts and eggheads?
btw, did those big specialbuilt housing contracts ever come thru for you? seems the last we heard they were snarled in red tape and held captive by evil bankers.
Following the Rmoney fake debate win…the fake pollster Rasmussen and WeaskAmerica(aka we ask our ass)
release polls showing extreme poll changes in Ohio — all of which are false
but designed to give the appearance of the might mo
Where is Jack Welsh when you really need him? What a turd.
Big Bird Writes Romney
Big Bird in on The Walk of Fame. Will anyone actually remember Romney’s name 20 years from now?
If you look at the Rasmussen presidential polls from past years there is a clear pattern of cooking the results — a fantasy poll
We Ask America is a joke firm
Yet reliable (sic) news outfits quote these polls as if they are real. The poll of polls includes this garbage
Republicans have nothing so they lie about everything on a continuous and daily basis. Americans really need some kind of mass intervention if Rmoney is still getting any votes.
After the disaster that was Shrub — how can anyone think what Rmoney is proposing will be helpful to anyone but the wealthy.
kgc, sooo? according to their nominee that’s the plan
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/04/1139685/-To-Romney-Lying-is-Winning-Romney-Even-Called-His-Sons-Liars-at-Debate
I do believe that, at least on economic matters, President Obama was during the 2008 election, and still is, a conservative masquerading as a Democrat. That will not stop me from voting against Mitt Romney whom I consider more of an extreme conservative and a danger to my way of life.
The selection of Judges does matter a lot! There may be two Supreme Court judges’ appointments between 2013 and 2016. There are many District and Appeals Court judges that matter.
Who is elected to Congress is very important. Another “do nothing Congress” with the Tea Party’s no compromise “my way or the highway” attitude does matter. The Democrats do need to replace Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid as their Party Leadership!
Let us not forget state governors and legislatures. Because of Democratic voter apathy and disenchantment with Obama in 2010, Republicans picked up 680 seats in state legislatures and the GOP gained majorities in 14 state house chambers. The Republicans have unified control — meaning both chambers — of 26 state legislatures.
That control was a particularly bad sign for Democrats as states went into the redistricting processes. The GOP has been effective in gerrymandering districts in many of these states not to mention their new voter suppression laws. This could eventually lead to the GOP actually expanding its majority in 2012.
Maybe the Democrats have learned but I doubt it. When Democrats don’t vote, Democrats can’t win. They can not depend on Independents to save their bacon if they don’t make the effort first.
Corporate CEOs Unveil Obama’s Second Term Agenda: Cutting Entitlements and Endless Fracking
By Matt Stoller, October 4, 2012 11:00 AM
Someone should ask Jack Welch is he ever “cooked the numbers” at GE.
Clint meets Big Bird
kgc, bless his awkward little heart, he doesn’t know a proper “wink wink” is done with one eye only.
ABC is having Miss Ann as a guest hostess-- Really?
And as for CNN -- Christine Romans is one of their financial people and lately she has just been an ass
Today they had Christine Roman’s rant. That finishes me for CNN What a pile of poop
patd
I think Mittens was sending out morse code
thought i recognized this stupid “jobs truther” ploy, looked it up: Reagan on Carter, October 1980:
http://bit.ly/QSFRoP
Craig,
Nice catch on the jobs truther thing.
‘Jobs Truther’ Jack Welch: SEC once nailed GE for hiding his retirement benefits from stockholders http://bit.ly/QECHqd
one thing about it, they sure are consistent with
hobgoblinish small minds
You can bet your ass, that if the unemployment rate had gone up, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, would have instantly become the ‘gold standard’ for labor statistics in the republican parallel universe.
Paranoid politics at it’s best, a conspiracy behind every bit of encouraging news.
oscar wilde
Pat,
If i don’t stick around, you can blame it on Craig.!
He made me realize that it is never to soon to plan for a new home:
Private Dragon Spacecraft ‘Go’ to Launch Space Station Cargo Sunday
scroll down a little, click on the video and take a look at my take off….a few of my friends will be there for a great send off….hope that u can make it.
Not to worry, be right back…at the speed of light….I am Solar no?
The reason all of these right-wingers “know” that the jobs numbers are fake is that THEY think nothing of lying, cheating, and stealing. It’s the Ayn Rand mentality: anything goes as long as you win.
That anyone could actually be honest is impossible for them to understand. It’s not the universe they live in.
I just want to know … WHO IS DUMB ENOUGH TO VOTE FOR THESE PEOPLE?
Pat,
About U calling XR an egg-head. Thats my job. He has a tough skin, a good drinking buddy, and us eggheads understand each other…..then there are other different kinds of eggheads…like Tony the Baloney…not oval like the rest of us….but a good egg anyway U cook em……
From Daily Kos -- new political group is forming --
Occupy Sesame Street.
Tony,
Speaking about eggs….I have been swallowing one organic egg every other (used to be every day)day when i work out…that with 1/2 cup unsalted pea-nuts, half a frozen banana, spoonful dry cranberries for great energy when working out, a half cup of caffeinated coffee, and im flying around the joint…..later pal
Tony,
….forgot, add a spoonful of carnation breakfast essentials nutritional powder drink to give u all the vits for the day.
This is not expensive at all…even cheap b/c i have half during the work-out..and the other 3/4 when im finished…no lunch and a light dinner….what is expensive tho….is a next to freezing bud and shot of te-kill-u
(President Obama’s top campaign staffers meet on the morning after the debate.)
“God was that awful.”
“After 10 minutes, I switched to the home shopping channel.”
“Was he on medication?”
“I got up early this morning to update my resume.”
“What are we going to tell him, Great Job?”
“That’s all I’m going to say. You know how he is.”
“HE probably thinks he did a great job.”
“It’s all over the news media. EVERYONE thinks he was terrible.”
“He doesn’t listen to us so I don’t think he’s going to listen to the crew on Morning Joe.”
“Did you hear that old video when he was talking to the black preachers? He sounded like Al Sharpton, with a Harvard accent.”
“What are we going to do?”
“What we always do. Wait for Romney to screw up bigger.”
http://craigcrawford.com/2012/10/05/big-bird-fallout/#comment-300088
Hi Solar,
Very good suggestion. I have a mid-day Smoothie with “Blue Diamond Almond milk”, i will just do as you say
Hey, stick around, please as your an independent who keeps it real..The Green Party, very good. I listened to Stein and her online video and the Green Party platform certainly is an agenda i can support. Florida looks to be close again. I do think President Obama will prevail, ugh as i said, thrilled Romney will lose, not thrilled Obama will win. Ah well.
Hello Chloe,
If your lurking..
I want another debate and I want it now.
they should have a net set up between them to vault over at the end to shake hands and congratulate each other.
with any luck they’d smack into each other mid-vault. that’d be funny.
mr romney to the gop guys: “I am the Romney. I have at my back the Strong Winds from the Church of The Latter Day Saints. Spread it far and wide. I will tell you nothing while making great hordes of cash available to my friends, The Owners; and you for your part will set up a great clamoring, a groundswell of support for whatever it is I decide to do after the election. It is not meet that your beautiful minds should be sullied with the grim details of my Fateful Plan of Destiny, as your little heads are sooooo incapable of encompassing my wisdom.
Hark ye, and HEED. For I am the Romney.”
I heard romney make a really weird promise. He promised to let everyone who’d vote for him into his exclusive country clubs.
I’m wondering if that’s just another empty campaign promise.
Didn’t have to wait long for Mittens to screw up
He was so excited about his response to the 47% even though no one cares about his excuses he had to go on Sean Hannity and tell everyone.
The people at CNN (Candy Crowley)when asked why Mittens would bring up this damaging bit again… and Crowley said he didn’t bring it up — he was asked. Duh not much hope for the second debate
Craig
Good job on Jack Welsh’s craptastic nonsense…
I am the Egg Head Man? oo-oo?
I always thought Mr. Tony 39B was the Egg Man.
We’ll be needing a walrus.
I’m figuring Big Bird in a walrus suit.
Tornado Gallery cap’s latest stop — keeping ducks in a row today, Meridian Hill Park aka Malcom X Park (DC): http://twitpic.com/b1ofhv
Vote For Big Bird !
I never liked the dems’ lame donkey totem. But, A BIG YELLOW BIRD ! I’m in love with it….sigh…love.
This will change American cartooning as nothing has since the invention of Shmoos
We’re running Big Bird, they’re running Bungalow Bill.
Great Graphic
Why Save PBS
Maureen Dowd -- President’s Obama and Bartlett having a conversation
Tony,
Here is the third party debate… from the libertarian (Gary Johnson)party, and (Jill Stein), from the Green party, which is the one I will be voting for.
To this day, getting a third-party candidate into a presidential debate is practically impossible. The Commission on Presidential Debates says to be included, you have to poll 15 percent with voters. That’s why George Farah, founder of Open Debates, a group that wants the system reformed, thinks the commission is the main problem.
“This commission exists for the principle purpose of protecting and strengthening the two parties,” Farah says. “And every four years they allow the major party candidates to negotiate agreements that dictate many of the terms of the debates — including the exclusion of popular
Final! South Carolina 35, Georgia 7. on ESPN
Many theories have been offered for President Obama’s less than sterling debate performance. Some of them may even have merit, though I suspect that they are a bit far from accurate.
Allow me if you will to proffer one more, and one that I think that is very possible.
In watching the replays of the debate, it became apparent to me at least that he was exhibiting all the tell tale signs of one who had spent the day in bed with his beloved, and was simply unable to muster the energy or maintain the proper frame of mind necessary for debating at the championship level.
In short, having gotten laid, he was laid low.
Who says he can’t relate to the average guy?
RWP
So you want him to rob Peter to pay Paul?
It is never advisable to rob Peter to pay anyone.
Peter had it coming……
Someone robbed the pumpkin guy? Im shocked. Such a nice fella.
Welcome to Planet GOP
Peter’s wife was glad they took him out. That pumpkin shell was the pits.
Me168 and I watched the Jon Stewart, Bill O’Reilly Debate live-streamed online event, without any technical difficulties. We agree that Jon Stewart won.
The best comment, IMO, was from Stewart: “Why is it if you take advantage of a tax break and you’re a corporation, you’re a smart businessman, but if you take advantage of something you need to not be hungry, you’re a moocher?”
Jon Stewart, Bill O’Reilly rumble, and zingers fly
By Dan Zak, The Washington Post, October 6
Sunday Sublime.
Apropos of nothing in particular. Just a beautiful song. Enjoy!
More from Planet GOP.
When the price of gas gos up it is the President’s fault.
When the price of gas gos down it is the free market at work.
When the president leads in the polls it is a liberal conspiracy.
When Romney leads in the polls it is the voice of the people.
When unemployment goes down, somebody cooked the books.
When unemployment goes up we need more tax cuts for the wealthy.
To find planet GOP, simply proceed straight down the road to Hell, when you come to a fork in the road take a hard right turn. Drive as fast as you can to the dark side of Mayberry. Proceed with caution until your car falls over the nearest cliff. You have arrived at your destination.
http://karws.gso.uri.edu/jfk/conspiracy_theory/the_paranoid_mentality/the_paranoid_style.html
Defining the modern republican party since 1964.
Long but well worth the read.
Change the places and change the names and you are right up to date.
Regarding Romney and the presidency, Emmett cites a bit of Mormon lore called the White Horse Prophecy that has floated around since the time of Mormon founder Joseph Smith. It suggests that Mormons believe a time will come when the U.S. Constitution is eroding and Mormon leaders will save it and usher in a new theocracy with Mormons in charge. Emmett’s great-great-grandfather talked about it. In a discourse from 1855, Young wrote that “when the Constitution hangs, as it were, upon a single thread, they will have to call for the ‘Mormon’ Elders to save it from utter destruction; and they will step forth and do it.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/07/exclusive-brigham-young-s-great-great-granddaughter-on-mormonism-and-mitt-romney.html
Let’s be clear about what happened the other night. In sports analogy terms Romney was down 3 games to none and was trying to prevent elimination. He had a dominating performance and thanks to a lackluster, disengaged performance by the President clearly won the debate to prevent being tossed off into oblivion. Because that’s what was going to happen if Romney had a bad night and the President had a good night. The story and campaign narrative would have been “This is Bob Dole all over again.” But more importantly, money and relevancy would have dried up and Republicans would have focused on retaining congressional seats.
There is no campaign reset. Romney is still in the game, but still not occupying a position of strength. The inherent problems have not gone away. In fact, his victory the other night was interrupted and marginalized by the unemployment figures on Friday. I would even suggest to you that the President knew the unemployment figures during the debate which was an additional factor in “playing it safe” because he knew the “bounce” if you will would be short lived.
The President’s strategy backfired partially only from this standpoint: He must walk a fine line between preserving his likability and enthusiasm. Supporters’ enthusiasm was dampened a little. But, he can re-gain that enthusiasm with a strong performance in the next debate. And, the next debate format is not a good one for Romney. Can you imagine a voter asking Romney a question about the 47%?
the real Big Bird on Saturday Night Live
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS, to Romney senior adviser Ed Gillespie, on ABC’s “This Week”: “PBS cited polls showing that it’s the most trusted public institution and it only takes about 0.01 percent of the federal budget. You’re now seeing Big Bird show up at Mitt Romney rallies. Was it a mistake to target him?”
GILLESPIE: “It wasn’t … targeting — it was just pointing to one example. … As the father of three children, grown now, … any father who has gone to a toy store knows that Big Bird is a pretty commercially successful entity. And whether or not we should be subsidizing it … You can cite, ‘Oh it’s not that big a percentage of the budget.’ That’s true. But every penny that you … raise as a potential cut seems to be sacred with this administration … And they demagogue it. And I think the American people understand this is a big election and a big choice.”
Gillespie is such a tool.
Allowed to continue uninterrupted he would have further claimed that 47 percent of the population don’t even know who Big Bird is.
Obama’s problem is that, more than anything else, we wants Republicans to respect him. He takes Democratic support for granted and always acts in ways he thinks will please the GOP in Congress.
For four years he has been baffled as to why they won’t work with him. If he loses this election it will be because he was unable to re-think his strategy.
As much as I dislike Joe Scarborough I think he has figured all of this out. He says Obama is in a “presidential bubble” and no one in his inner circle has the guts to tell him he is wrong, about anything.
Even worse neither Romney nor his shill Gillespie didn’t know that the Federal Budget doesn’t support Sesame Street. It pays it’s own way and then some. The money goes for stations and educational programs nationwide that wouldn’t be available otherwise. Children are already turned into screaming commercial gobbling consumers without the billionaires corrupting them farther by throwing PBS to the mercy of advertising.
What Does “Balanced” Approach to “Strengthening” Social Security Mean?
by Taylor Marsh
Obama doesn’t listen to his supporters.
He only listens to the other side.
All he wants to do is make deals.
He still thinks he’s a senator.
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2012/10/07/poll-itics-president-obama-still-leads-mitt-romney-in-colorado-leads-among-latinos-77-23-nationally/
From the good folks at the political carnival.
Don’t know how this plays out in the rest of the swing states but it can’t be very encouraging for Romney.
this stuff’s too dangerous to play around with…
it’s not about obama….
it’s about whatever republican those freaks conjure up to run for them.
In this case it’s about Mitt Romney. His attaining any position of power would be catastrophic, as it would be for ANY republican to be elected to a position of power. Catastrophic too strong a word? Try another Scalia on the Supreme court. Try another round of that imbecilic Large Con “Trickle Down”. Try another war, this time Iran. This shit has consequences and there is a great need to quit hacking at Obama and realize where the clear and present danger lies in all this. Ask about the thousands of dead soldiers from 2003 to the PRESENT TIME, while the perpetrators of that carnage, (most of whom moved heaven and earth to AVOID having to fight for their country) have barbecues, go hunting and generally laugh it up all over town while counting up the money. Take the economy. Everyone knows how it got to the point it was in ’07-08. It’s not a mystery. The republicans crash it every time they’re near it by their lying and their greed.
If you want more dead soldiers, less work, nothing trickling down but splooge for we the people; if you want another asshole idiot appointed to the Supreme Court, then keep throwing rocks at the best hope there is of avoiding another republican shithead sitting in the big chair.
It is not about Obama.
Here’s what I learned this week
the media’s judgement of the (according to Dana Millbank and Howie Kurtz) was developed by the twitter universe.
Obamarama better start tweeting how great Biden is doing as soon as he opens his mouth and during the next presidential campaign — send out suggested tweets in advance
ABC is totally in the tank for Romney -- first antoinette’s becoming the guest host and advertising it because she is close to Robing Roberts --really?
Today on Snuffy Bill OReilly made an appearance spewing his usual drivel
And of course the political couple that makes you want to throw up
I’m with Sturg I always go with the lessor of the two evils
This is not about the lesser of two evils. It is about the status-quo and its faults vs. bat shit crazy, haven’t got a clue, and we don’t care.
Trickle down didn’t work, because it was never intended to work. It was nothing more than a ploy to make people think that their day would come, while the people at the top robbed them blind. It has been a thirty year road to nowhere and republicans would like to drive down that road for the next hundred years or so. It was a Laffer, but it wasn’t funny.
No I think it is about the lesser of two evils.
I never liked Obama and I like him less now that I see what his priorities are.
However as creepy as he is Rmoney and the goopers are horrible and how ever level completely unaccetable
Big Bird to willard:
“Mr. romney, I paid for this microphone !”
Even with a surreal total Freak Show like McCain and Palin….look how close they came. There are too many out there with their strong opinions in their ill-formed and ignorant minds. I’m quite sick of Joes the Plumbers and they have to be defeated.
anyone who in this country is so ridiculously STUPID as to suggest that funding Public TV and radio is a necessary cut in spending needs to be hung out to dry and ridiculed from one end of the land to the other.
I agree with Sturgeone about what is at stake, and I do so despite my feelings about President Obama.
willard is so bad that conjoining his name with the word catastrophe is entirely acceptable. On Nov 7th, event republicans will agree.
“…strong opinions in ill-formed minds….”
--barbara w. tuchmann, THE MARCH OF FOLLY
Mittens doesn’t think people have the right to decent food, housing and medical care let alone public education or entertainment
I do believe he would bring back debtors prison
it’s shaping up to be an overall 3-pt gain for Romney after debate.. Nate Silver:
Under a romney court I can see a SCOTUS ruling that women can be probed/raped on suspicion.
War on Astronomy, Climatology, and Mathmatics.
War on High School Biology, Social Studies, & History.
War with Iran, Somalia, Yemen, Cuba, and Venezuela.
War on Women & Blacks who vote.
War on people who have characteristics common seen among “illegal aliens”: light tan to dark complexion, brown eyes, & black hair, or an ability to speak Spanish.
War on those “deadbeat” “sponging” vets.
War on people who have small incomes -- $350k/yr or less.
War on America.
The last republican president inherited a balanced budget and a rather large surplus,he left office with two wars un-won and the economy in shambles.
Mitt has said or done nothing to make me believe that he learned anything from that fiasco. On the contrary he appears to believe that we simply did not go ‘big enough’.
Sorry Mitt you are not the answer.
Who here can imagine surviving the next four years if Mitt was in your immediate chain of command? It’s his way or the highway, oops, what highway. He’s like one of my colonel’s bosses in Vietnam--the general who pulled his sidearm on him and all the other colonels one day just to let them know who was in charge. Something like enjoying firing people.
Craig I’m not suprised after I saw the viewer numbers for the debate. Apparently a lot of people are more interested than I am about this election. Not good news for Obama. He is going to have to step it up.
Presidential Debate Hits 32-Year Record in Gross Ratings
I think Jax may have put his finger on it the other day. For hi Obama looked weak. Jax was worried about it as a C&C and foreign policy issue but for others it may have reminded them of how much Obama has let himself be pushed around.
Jack
There is one way to fix Social Security. Remove the cap on paying in and means test benefits for those who make above $500 Thousand a year.
Problem solved.
At this time it looks like Florida is going to lose Medicaid Funds because the Thieving Governor Rick Scott wants to privatize Medicaid.
The only reasons I can think of or come up with why he would want to do this is so he and his friends can steal Medicaid Money from the Sick, Elderly and Tax Payers again like he did with his massive Medicare Fraud Scheme.
He stole over 1 Billion Dollars from the Elderly and Tax Payers and only paid a small fine which was less than what he stole.
Instead of making a deal with him which basically gave him a slap on the wrist (a smaller fine than what he stole), he should have been prosecuted and when found guilty had his hand cut off and sent to Prison for twenty years.
Now he wants to steal Medicaid Money just like he did with Medicare.
Screw him and I hope he spends his Soul Eternally in Hell.
Good night and have a great evening.
Back to PBS …….
It was Shelby Foote on on PBS that taught Americans about the Civil War. A charming old son of the South. Explaining how Grant took Vicksburg. As Runmoney said , they don’t hate ‘Big Bird’, they hate NOVA, Click and Clank, Norm the carpenter, and Frontline.
Danny day Lewis as Lincoln -
http://www.examiner.com/article/spielberg-s-lincoln-may-make-surprise-appearance-at-new-york-film-festival
The ghost of John Ford is ‘a foot’ with this one.
Speaking of ghosts , “Hell on Wheels” killed off Mrs. Bell, the Irish section-hand, and the ‘Swede”.
They have completely left all historical grounding , & it is a perfect soap opera now.
Tommy Lee Jones as Thaddeus Stevens. That’s worth the price of a ticket.