President Obama’s team seems close to provoking a feud with the Clintons. The White House seems to be shifting blame to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for the Benghazi fiasco.
First, Vice President Joe Biden says in his debate “we” weren’t told U.S. diplomats asked for more security in Benghazi before the violence there. Then, White House press secretary Jay Carney explains that Biden meant only the White House had not been told, and in a telling remark says the matter was “handled by security professionals at the State Department.”
I can understand why Biden, who wants to run for president again, would relish a chance to undermine Hillary, who might also run again. But at a moment when Obama is relying so much on Bill Clinton for support does he really want to let this play out?
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Doesn’t seem as if this would be raised to the secretarial level unless it was a personal request from the ambassador.
And then it would be referred back to a staff level for action. Might take weeks for final action depending on the perceived urgency of the request and the money situation ‘the $300MM?’.
And if the ambassador made it an SCI message, people at an extremely high level might have been completely unaware of the situation.
Romney and company are being totally unfair,
and Biden is on very thin ice if he’s mounting a parallel conspiracy.
Just how many women would Obama and Biden want to stay home? They might go vote, but badmouth Hillary in any way and they really, really wouldn’t want to see the approval numbers.
I don’t think Michelle would be happy if either of them tossed another committed feminist under the bus.
Well…how about if we just let the truth emerge? If someone in the State Dept. fouled up, so be it. If not, let’s deal with what actually happened, rather than what might be politically convenient.
HW, you’re correct. It may be that no one fouled up--just a resource allocation decision in a resource constrained environment.
Thank you, Flatus! I don’t want to see Hillary hurt, but I really do want to know what happened…though I’m heartily sick of the phrase “so it will never happen again”. Yeah, right!
I think Harbor has it exactly right.
I think Rmoney -- Mr not very transparent about anything has a lot of nerve talking about the need to know.
Darryl Issa’s hearing was just to get quotes for Fox news, the Rmoney campaign and other right wing screamers.
It is more like Admiral Mullen’s inquiry will tell us what really went how and hopefully how to prevent it from happening again.
“Tony, i know you’re hesitant to vote for a presidential candidate, but please be sure at least to vote the down ticket races. according to hiaasen it looks like florida is about to be cold-koched in the judiciary….and that would hurt a lot!”
Hi Pat,
Oh for sure i will be vvoting.The nasty Koch boys have been busy. Rick Scott and his minions at work, yuck. Thanks for the piece and info.
Tom,
It was very good to see you the other day. I understand your feelings regarding the President very well. Hopefully the next debate Obama will not let the Romney lies stand. The President doesn’t have a great record himself but up against Romney’s lie flip flopper campaign Obama should pull out a win.
Bill and Hillary have been under the bus before…they are resilient.
Faux News has been beating the drums on this story for weeks. I find it to be republican news story to draw focus from the bold lies of the Rmoney/Ryan campaign. The republicans will say anything to win this election. I fear they will try to steal it. It reminds me of 2000 and 2004.
tony…
Did you see these two posts and check the link embedded in the second one?
http://craigcrawford.com/2012/10/11/ryan-not-now-maybe-someday/#comment-300955
http://craigcrawford.com/2012/10/11/ryan-not-now-maybe-someday/#comment-300957
Have a great evening.
Republicans and Their Guns?
http://craigcrawford.com/2012/10/11/ryan-not-now-maybe-someday/#comment-300968
Have a great evening.
Flatus and Harborwoman are right.
The request wouldn’t have been seen by either the WH or the SoS.
Let the truth out.
babybush got 2,800 civilians killed in NYC, and 4,000 military personnel killed in Iraq, while pissing away $8TR!LL!ON, letting osama bin ladin escape, and feeding top secret info to Iran through the spy chelabi. But, we are supposed to ignore all that and be outraged instead about the incident in Libya ?!?
R U $#/++/*@ ME ???
I don’t see “under the bus” here…
It’s impressive how much you’ve improved your composition, Tony. Kudos.
I hope when people see Mittens posturing — they remember Bush and “wanted dead or alive…” Bush and the rush to war. Bush -- incompetent at war and peace
Rmoney is Bush with blood doping..
ig cha….do I perceive that you are involved in the process of composition?
I gotta cousin who wrote some books…..mostly about middy-evil france…..I find it hard to read the books because they’re so….scholarly or something, I don’t know….
Be that as it may, if you wanna see some good composition check him out….
David M. Nicholas, Clemson.
Dr. Nicholas retired in 2006 as Kathryn and Calhoun Lemon Professor of History. He came to Clemson in 1989 from the University of Nebraska, where he taught for 22 years. Professor Nicholas is the author or editor of sixteen books and numerous scholarly articles and book chapters. At Clemson, Dr. Nicholas taught courses in Medieval History, The Era of the Hundred Years War, pre-modern urbanization, the European family, and the History of England to 1688.
Professional Activity
Books (Published)
The Northern Lands. Germanic Europe, c.1270-c.1500. Wiley-Blackwell, 2009.
Urban Europe, 1100-1700 (Palgrave Macmillan, 2003).
The Transformation of Europe, 1300-1600 (London: Edward Arnold, 1999).
The Growth of the Medieval City: From Late Antiquity to the Early Fourteenth Century (London: Longman, 1997).
The Later Medieval City, 1300-1500 (London: Longman, 1997).
Trade, Urbanization and the Family: Studies in the History of Medieval Flanders (Variorum, 1996)
The Evolution of the Medieval World: Society, Government and Thought in Europe, 312-1500 (Longman, 1992).
Medieval Flanders (Longman, 1992).
The van Arteveldes of Ghent: The Varieties of Vendetta and the Hero in History (Cornell, 1988).
The Metamorphosis of a Medieval City: Ghent in the Age of the Arteveldes, 1302-1390 (Nebraska, 1987).
The Domestic Life of a Medieval City: Women, Children, and the Family in 14th-Century Ghent (Nebraska: 1985).
there’s a-moray….
I’d like to have known a guy named Calhoun Lemon.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-letting-us-in-on-a-secret/2012/10/10/ba3136ca-132b-11e2-ba83-a7a396e6b2a7_story.html
this might explain what jay carney meant by “security professionals” and why biden couldn’t say more.
congress critters may have another valerie plame booboo on their bloody hands
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/jason-chaffetz-embassy_n_1954912.html Doesn’t this make it CLEAR who has messed up?
et, thanks for linking that. why wasn’t the chaffetz admission of cutting the security funding at the embassy made more of during the blame games yesterday?
My brother’s spouse is a perfesser emerita. Has published dozens of scholarly tomes in her chosen field and has been more than active in worthwhile social endeavors. I have read none of her works.
We had a major falling out during the war years that is just now easing. But, not enough to read one of her books.
tony, looks like tricky ricky and the kochers aren’t the only nasties befouling florida airwaves:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/12/florida-gay-gop-ad_n_1961966.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
Obama heeds to channel his inner ronald reagan. Quit acting like some wuss of a liberal Dem and go on the attack.
What would Ronald Reagan do? (wwrrd)
Jack
wwrrd?
first he would put on his John Wayne hat and say “it is a dangerous world out there pilgrim” and “Only a lowly scum sucking pissant would be trying to play politics with the death of a great American hero”
Then he would invade Granada.
Jack
Jack, I love it! Granada? Granada? What do you mean wrong country??? Baker, get your ass in here!
ET, what it does make clear is that we are resource constrained. What is unclear is all the rest of the stuff, not the least of which is, are the remaining resources adequate to cope with rapidly shifting threats in a terror-driven environment.
Craig… Darrell Issa tried to make this an issue last night on Bill Maher’s show. Said the problem was that people at the WH weren’t reading memos. Ben Affleck, who was sitting right beside him,immediately quipped “you mean like Bin Laden determined to strike within the US”…. it sure shut Issa up.
meanwhile back on mars, remember jake the rock? well…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19923118
For those amongst us in the investor class, here’s an interesting article on growing trend in green investments.
I’m consistently amazed that Issa doesn’t morph into a pool of oily ooze the instant he enters a warm room.
the opposition candidate usually gets a certain amount of classified briefing. was/is this the present case and has the rev. bishop romney stepped over the line by distorting some of it?
btw, how does one properly address a bishop? the right reverend? his holiness?
jamie, are the so-called princes of the lds church equal to cardinals? and what powers do they wield?
In 2000, team Gore made the decision to keep Bill Clinton as far removed from the campaign as possible, fearing that Clinton fatigue and the whole impeachment fiasco would do more harm than good in a close race.
They forgot that Clinton was one of the most effective campaigners to come along in a generation. In retrospect it was probably a bad move.
I don’t see team Obama doing anything at this point that would serve to dampen Clinton’s enthusiasm for being in the thick of a campaign, especially throwing Hillary under the bus. He has been an effective surrogate and they need him, now more than ever.
Hillary has been the star of the Obama Cabinet, and she is a few months away from being ‘private citizen’ Hillary, with book deals sure to come.
I think that Obama and Biden will tread very carefully here.
On a side note, the threads and the posts this week have been great. Nothing like an election to bring out the best. What great reads they have been.
Always worries me to be on the same track as Ed Klein and the Daily Caller, but we’re hearing the same stuff (unless it’s just voices in our heads)…
As Benghazi blame nears Hillary, Clintons grow furious
Klein: “Bill is working on a number of strategies about what Hillary ought to do. He’s even gone so far as to play with various doomsday scenarios including up to the idea that Hillary would consider resigning over the issue if the Obama team tries to use her as a scapegoat.”
I hope OldSeaHag is having a blast today at her son’s wedding.
Jace… Four yrs ago it was so contentious here that I stopped reading several posters. Now I’m reading everything and enjoying the posts very much.
Jace says: “I don’t see team Obama doing anything at this point that would serve to dampen Clinton’s enthusiasm for being in the thick of a campaign”
Jace, it’s actually gotten ugly since Obama rebuffed Clinton’s offer to help with debate prep. Story is that WH didn’t even return his phone call to offer. The two sides can’t wait to be done with each other, believe me. It’ll probably all come out once HRC has left State.
Craig,
That doesn’t surprise me. It is however people like Hillary who help keep the women’s vote hitched, and Obama is losing that advantage at this point.
If there is to be a sacrificial lamb,as of course there must be, it better be a man and preferably one who is far down the State department ladder.
Hillary simply doesn’t look good in wool.
Craig,
I guess we won’t be seeing any group hugs.
I find Bill’s campaign sked interesting. Not too many presidential battlegrounds, more focused on congressional races. And if this article on yesterday’s Indiana rally is any indication, he’s not talking much about Obama
RR,
I have heard that it was a bit touchy around here at the time. That type of passion is one of the downsides of being a political junkie.
Bill is scheduled to appear at Ohio rally for Obama next week with Bruce Springsteen. It really looks to me like he’s doing just enough to say he helped, but more focused on helping Dem candidates who can help HRC in 2016 (not that I think she’s running for sure, but you know he’s thinking ahead)
more Ed Klein (dicey source I know, but this “rings” true to me — at the time Obama camp did go out of its way to say Bill not involved in debate prep -- I thought then they were showing some of that self-defeating Gore fear of letting it look like he’s in charge):
“latest quarrel began when Clinton heard that Obama was behaving so cocky about his first debate against Mitt Romney that he wasn’t taking his debate prep seriously. Out of concern, Clinton had an aide call the White House and say that the former president would be more than happy to give the current president some pointers and advice on how to get the best of Romney. Clinton waited several days for a response, but none was forthcoming.” -- http://tinyurl.com/8v7ysdt
Craig,
I think that she is running and so does Bill.
He is always looking at the long game.
Potentially she is the only candidate out there who could compete with the ungodly amounts of Rove/Koch money that will be thrown at her.
Craig,
Everything you say rings true. Remember it was Obama’s victory lap approach that allowed Hillary to win New Hampshire, and stay in the race in 08.
Sounds like the plot of Political Animals
What is Scooter Libby doing these days..probably organizing telephone trees for Rmoney
Note to Team Obama.
Distribution: General
Priority: Highest
From: Director
Subject: Conventional Wisdom/Spin
Please begin preparing talking points for Sunday talk shows, as to how this election became ‘Romney’s to lose’, as this will undoubtedly be a topic at some point.
Be advised that it would help if your talking points were reasonably convincing.
Ha, KGC, Political Animals really ought to add a credit line for Bill & Hillary — love that show, but can’t stand the performance by the guy playing Bill. Forget his name, a great character, but his phony accent drives me nuts. Sigourney saves the show, of course.
Should she run, and, of course, win, I’ll be most pleased to tend to Mrs Clinton’s rose garden. And, if she wishes, we can take Rosie on pleasant drives into the countryside.
Patd
The highest group of LDS are the Prophets and the highest amongst them is the President. Under them you have area Presidents that head global areas, Then Stake Presidents, then Bishops
LDS Heirarchy
Tried to watch Political Animals. Lasted two episodes before the Bill Clinton knockoff made me too crazy to be interesting. Then there is the whole high dive into angst, bathos, and misc. hyperbolic slobbering … Real life is interesting enough without adding dramatic bells and whistles.
so last night this gop feller I know well came at me with two “facts”. 1. Obama’s wedding ring has an islamic inscription. 2. Romney-Ryan tax plan is exactly like JFK’s. Some kind of speech JFK made in 1962.
I don’t know about the tax plan fact yet, but snopes says the ring story is almost certainly bullscheiss. But my friend was very exercised about the ring…the president of the US wearing a ring which reads something about no god but allah. Sometimes I just want to give them the country and find a nice quiet valley somewhere. I wonder if there is peace in the valley.
I just don’t know how to talk to these pipples. The gop “delude the suckers” machine, functioning well now since the late seventies, has a significant percentage of the population bamboozled by bad info, lies, and ignorant omni-directional hate.
Should she run, and, of course, win, I’ll be most pleased to tend to Mrs Clinton’s rose garden. And, if she wishes, we can take Rosie on pleasant drives into the countryside.
--flatus
And I will tend to Rosie’s mechanicking and, uh, rotate the tires and all that.
Aw come on people Jason Chaffetz is right. We have to prioritize where we spend the money for security.
So I say lets cut several hundred million from the Security Funds for Congress. Let them show us how patriotic they are since I’m sure they can do just as well with less.
After all its not like there are any Al Qeada, Taliban or Terrorists in Washington DC or in any of the States surrounding them. I’m sure that they can provide all the necessary protection needed to keep them safe from a mass attack against them.
In fact it is highly unlikely that the Congress will be taken over by Terrorist who will hold them hostage or kill them. Its not like there in Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Turkey or Syria. Shit, there sitting right in the middle of America.
But then again I could be wrong since we do have several Evangelical Christian American Taliban in the States to the South,West and even some to the North of Dc.
They have already had many of their followers shoot, bomb and kill people even committing murder in a Church.
Jason Chaffetz should be quite safe with less funds available for protection and I doubt very much that he would have to worry about someone walking up to him and giving him a Gabriel Gifford. I don’t believe that I have seen any Cross Hairs over his District like Sarah Palin put over Gabriel Giffords District and Bill O’ Reilly hasn’t called him a baby killer like he called Dr. George Tiller.
It’s like he says, we have to prioritize where we spend our hard earned tax dollars.
Have a great day.
Question: What Was the Charge Against Socrates?
Answer: There are 3 main contemporary Greek sources on Socrates, his pupils Plato and Xenophon and the comic playwright Aristophanes. From them we know that Socrates was accused of corrupting the young and impiety.
In his Memorabilia Xenophon examines the charges against Socrates:
“Socrates is guilty of crime in refusing to recognise the gods acknowledged by the state, and importing strange divinities of his own; he is further guilty of corrupting the young.”
Xenophon elaborates further on the trouble in which Socrates was embroiled because he followed principles instead of the will of the people. The boule was the council whose job entailed providing an agenda for the ekklesia, the citizen assembly. If the boule didn’t provide it, the ekklesia couldn’t act on it.
“At one time Socrates was a member of the Council [boule], he had taken the senatorial oath, and sworn ‘as a member of that house to act in conformity with the laws.’ It was thus he chanced to be President of the Popular Assembly [ekklesia], when that body was seized with a desire to put the nine generals, Thrasyllus, Erasinides, and the rest, to death by a single inclusive vote. Whereupon, in spite of the bitter resentment of the people, and the menaces of several influential citizens, he refused to put the question, esteeming it of greater importance faithfully to abide by the oath which he had taken, than to gratify the people wrongfully, or to screen himself from the menaces of the mighty. The fact being, that with regard to the care bestowed by the gods upon men, his belief differed widely from that of the multitude. Whereas most people seem to imagine that the gods know in part, and are ignorant in part, Socrates believed firmly that the gods know all things — both the things that are said and the things that are done, and the things that are counselled in the silent chambers of the heart. Moreover, they are present everywhere, and bestow signs upon man concerning all the things of man.”
By corrupting the young is meant he encouraged his students down the path he had chosen — the one that led him into trouble with the radical democracy of the time. Xenophon explains:
“Socrates cause[d] his associates to despise the established laws when he dwelt on the folly of appointing state officers by ballot? a principle which, he said, no one would care to apply in selecting a pilot or a flute- player or in any similar case, where a mistake would be far less disastrous than in matters political. Words like these, according to the accuser, tended to incite the young to contemn the established constitution, rendering them violent and headstrong. “
I think Hillary runs in 2016.
Winning is another matter. If she is running for an open seat she could very likely win. If she is running against an incumbent Romney, she would have her hands full and then some.
If Romney has proven anything it is that he is a ruthless and shameless take over artist. As president he would be very hard to unseat even if he were a failure.
That’s why I continue to keep hoping that Obama and company will wake up and start smelling the coffee, sooner rather than later.
It appears that Klein is making the television rounds this AM, which is to say FOX.
If it is on Fox it must be true, right?
“And I will tend to Rosie’s mechanicking and, uh, rotate the tires and all that.” —Sturg
Sounds good to me. Said goodbye to Rosemary this morning. Sad moment signing away her title.
It’s still the same old story, a quest for love and glory, a case of do or die.
Socrates must die, there’s no room in this country for a Smart-Alec.
I have to think Soc’s opponents at the trial heaved a collective sigh of “Oooooooh, shit…” when they realized that Soc was going to actually drink the Hemmer instead of just leaving the country for awhile, as he easily could have….talk about a curve-ball.
Given the egos involved … or as Trump would say “huuuuuge huuuuuge”, it makes sense for Bill Clinton to concentrate on down ballot. It prevents conflict with the POTUS, he knows where the bodies are buried, if Hillary does run a Democratic House/Senate would be in her best interest and if Obama benefits in the meantime fine.
Once we get past all this nonsense, I can wax dismally philosophical about why none of it truly matters in a global economy where global corporations can sell to middle class shoppers wherever they might exist and unskilled labor is both excessively abundant and cheaper than dirt.
I actually never do that rotating the tires routine…..I mean, isn’t the whole point of a tire that it rotates itself?
I want Bill working for every down ballot race that is even remotely competitive.
AZ is a perfect example. The state belongs to Romney, but there is a reasonably good chance that we could replace Kyle with Rich Carmona, and end the political career of one Jeff Flake, all in one fell swoop.
That is a prospect worth pursuing, and having Bill Clinton here sure doesn’t hurt.
Well, hell, I thought you were going to buy the gasoline. How else do you keep the tires rotating??
umm…..how many miles to the thimble-full does Rosie get? I can see a bit of plain and fancy budgetary mind-bending on this one……
I’m writing a scholarly treatise with the title “What if Socrates had owned a Chevrolet”.
My treatise: “It would have been up on marble blocks, a fine home for the chickens.”
wow, just like south carolina (except for those folks living in McMansions on the beach)…..some things never change….plus ca change, etc.
Thrown under the bus? So far there is no bus.
During the up-coming debate one Q will be about Benghazi. Unless I am horribly wrong, the Prez will throw security-cutter pol ryan under the bus.
I hate being horribly wrong.
I notice that none of the republican talker guys ever seem to comment on Mitt’s “warm and friendly smile”.
Hey…. I saw a really great bumper sticker earlier this afternoon….
Tea Parties… are for little girls.
President Clinton, campaigning for (D) candidates, will bring out a big vote for Obama-Biden…
tea parties were the price you paid for getting to sit with the little girls.
I think Socrates was more of a Yaris kind of guy.
He’d have a foreign, a spartan, vehicle. Like Walter Mitty, he’d be driving his wife around all the time while imagining a Real universe.
Mrs. Socrates would want a Rolls.
pocketa-pocketa-pocketa…..
Anywhat, if Old Sock hadn’t hung out in the Long Horn drinking Hemmer with the boys, the Pestilence would have swept him away with the peanut shells, as it did Perry Clees.
Sic transit Gloria Mundi
As they translate it in Minneapolis (wherever that is), Gloria Munday took sick on the bus.
‘I notice that none of the republican talker guys ever seem to comment on Mitt’s “warm and friendly smile”.’
- Sturgeone @ 2:55 pm
Sumpin’ fishy ’bout that smile. Kinda like Whitey smiling at Roy Scheider.
I went to the chat box and persted and it showed up like it’s posed to. but just me….nothing else.
Way too many pertinence pertaining and referencing going on. Even with a Rolls I don’t think Xantippe was much of a tipper but she definitely would have been clamoring for a bigger boat. Best to give in as she had a sharp tongue if not white teeth and Perry Cleese couldn’t say much as he had Asp(h)asia.
poobah, klein must be talking to the same guy that said the prez never calls bebe. as for the 2 sides, there’d be a mighty big hole if the former clinton folks now working in the wh walked away. methinks there’s a crafty mole spreading gossip and this is another divide and conquer ploy by the same folks that kept blowing smoke up the puma skirts.
Never mind about chat room test. Thanks sturg and jamie for playing. That one still not what we need. Chat comments disappear after refreshing or closing browers. I want something better than that. Back to the tool shed.
Craig,
Sturgeone might be able to rotate the tires on this new chat vehicle of yours.
Or he’ll give you gas.
serenity now….serenity now…..serenity now…..
Sturgeone -- Those are some interesting works. I have to check out the The Growth of the Medieval City and The Evolution of the Medieval World (Not much of a fan of anything that occurs after 1400 C.E. to be honest).
RR -- That Real Time with Bill Maher was a blast. There is nothing that pisses Bill off more then when he loses control of the show.
Sturgeone -- The charges against Socrates are irrelevant. We know that the real crime that Socrates was being executed was having a vague association with Alcybiades. At this time, Athens was unable to execute him so they used Socrates as a scapegoat.
Via Bethany Hughes -
In the roughly 150 years of Athens democracy , 2 years never passed where they did not vote to go to war.
——
This vexed our founders to no end .
http://www.rexxonmobil.com/submit
Nigeria makes the best gasoline in the world, for every barrel of Nigerian crude oil, you get more gasoline . For 2 months now, floods have swept the country , the good news is oil production is still going, the bad news they are closing all the schools ……
http://allafrica.com/stories/201210121025.html
Rex Tillerson, CEO of ExxonMobil, says “we can adapt” to global climate disruption.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scots-face-decision-of-whether-to-eat-1376596
(Reuters) -- Heavy rain and flooding hit large swathes of Scotland on Friday, bursting riverbanks, turning roads into torrents and stranding people in their homes.
Britain’s Met (meteorological) Office warned the region to brace for nearly a month’s worth of rain -- as much as 80 mm -- over 48 hours.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scots-face-decision-of-whether-to-eat-1376596
The “Fossil Fueled Free Market ” at work.
Scotland is where the British have their North Sea operations . Long before the BP disaster in the Gulf, there was the Piper Alpha .
Piper Alpha was a North Sea oil production platform operated by Occidental Petroleum (Caledonia) Ltd.[1] The platform began production in 1976,[2] first as an oil platform and then later converted to gas production. An explosion and the resulting oil and gas fires destroyed it on 6 July 1988, killing 167 men,[3] with only 61 survivors. The death toll includes two crewmen of a rescue vessel.[4] Total insured loss was about £1.7 billion (US$3.4 billion). At the time of the disaster, the platform accounted for approximately ten percent of North Sea oil and gas production, and was the worst offshore oil disaster in terms of lives lost and industry impact.[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_Alpha
I remember the North Sea oil production boom, The Scots were the new ‘Blue-eyed Texans’, …… they were all gonna get rich.
It seems the Scots are learning something about the real price of corn.
I’m certain the Nigerians know it.
Watching the Shuttle being dragged through LA reminds me of us burying some ancient god/king, in this case the god of American science.
Flatus,
As you are no doubt aware, the desert is an excellent place to store worn out airplanes and vintage automobiles.
Should you ever find that you are ever in need of a place to store ‘Rosie’,I would be honored to offer her a place in my garage.
Fees for such service would of course be negotiable.
jace
A couple pals of mine took an off-season vacation in Britain a few years back. One had to visit his Scottish ancestors’ stomping grounds. His story is there are no insulated buildings north of Hadrian’s wall.
One stop was at a rural inn heated by peat. Their eyes stung from it the next day.
He said, “For such a cold place, you’d think they’d reproduce faster.”
Trying yet another live event chat room system. Help me test it before Tuesday’s debate. Click “Chat” in menu above or go to http://craigcrawford.com/chat/
It’s not working for me.
Why thanks, Jace, that’s mighty good of you. If she needs to go into storage, I was thinking about Davis-Monthan AFB amongst the ancient warbirds. Could you move your garage over there?
The chat isn’t working for me, either. Security issues, etc.
Hi, everyone. Did I miss anything ?
The Atacama Desert is a good place to store stuff that doesn’t need refrigeration. Good to know now that the poles are melting.
Just returned from the chat room, kind of a techno version of the land of OZ I don’t think that it was in Kansas. “There’s no place like home”
Meat seems to keep well in the Irish & Danish bogs.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/01/0117_060117_irish_bogmen.html
Flatus, let me know when you can exactly what happens when you go to chat room, so I can investigate. Has been working for others. I’ve been at this project all dang day. Gonna take a break now
and watch my DVR of “Boss”
Flatus,
Sadly my garage has no wheels. In a world of ‘if onlys’
that was a big one.
Off to a movie.
jace
for those who try the chat room, FYI: the free account i am using right now is limited to 10 users at a time and 25 posts in the message history. Will have to pay for an upgrade to boost that for a debate, and obviously don’t want to do that unless and until we think we like it. So please try it out and let me know what you think, especially if you have trouble launching it: http://craigcrawford.com/chat/
or click “Chat” in the menu bar below the logo top of page
Oooh, sweet. Now when participants get into a fight, they can “take it to the chatroom”.
Someone near and dear read this to me today and had me laughing, so in the spirit of Universal Oneness, I shall share it with you all:
“Obituary of the Pillsbury Doughboy
Please join me in remembering a great icon. Veteran Pillsbury spokesperson, The Pillsbury Doughboy, died yesterday of a severe yeast infection and complications from repeated pokes to the belly. He was 71. Doughboy was buried in a slightly greased coffin. Dozens of celebrities turned out, including Mrs. Butterworth, the California Raisins, Hungry Jack, Betty Crocker, the Hostess Twinkies, Captain Crunch and many others.
The graveside was piled high with flours as long-time friend, Aunt Jemima, delivered the eulogy, describing Doughboy as a man who “never knew how much he was kneaded.”
Doughboy rose quickly in show business, but his later life was filled with many turnovers. He was not considered a very smart cookie, wasting much of his dough on half-baked schemes. Despite being a little flaky at times, even as a crusty old man, he was still considered a roll model for millions.
Toward the end it was thought he’d rise once again, but he was no tart.
Doughboy is survived by his second wife, Play Dough. They have two children and one in the oven. The funeral was held at 3:50 for about 20 minutes.”
Craig, down below is what I get when I enter chat. When I go to copy the message, I get a suspected click-jacking alert from my protection suite.
“Invalid API Request:
uname parameter missing
sig does not match expected value
Please contact support@chatroll.com for assistance. ”
Using Firefox 16.0.1 on Win7x64Ultimate
vox banana
Flatus, i’ll send that error msg along to the chat room folk. In the meantime would you mind clearing cache, then close and reopen browser? that’s done in Tools > Options > Advanced > Network -- then click “Clear Now”
Doesn’t hurt to do that now and then anyway
Vox banana, vox Day-O
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfxX1GjIZtA
Brilliant Headline: ‘Obscure Expert Joins Little Known Think Tank To Battle Issues Most Prefer To Ignore’
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/10/13/1008711/brilliant-headline-obscure-expert-joins-little-known-think-tank-to-battle-issues-most-prefer-to-ignore/
Pogo -
Sorry ,…..
They stunned Lubbock as well.
nice article
Drought is leading restaurants to raise prices, cut portions
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-fi-drought-restaurants-20121014,0,3803482.story
a mysterious “click here for chat” appeared and I did.
Craig, did and did with a fresh start; no joy.
Did get in thru Internet Explorer with no trouble so the problem is peculiar to my installation of Firefox. No point in pursuing a solution unless others are having similar difficulties.
This feels like Germany in 1933, (except we’re in the process of melting Greenland) we’re about to elect the very people who gave us World War I. Every time we do this, it’s because morons march better than the rest of us. And morons make up about 1/3 of the population.
What my life has taught me -
Stupid has always had a seat at the table. How we limit the size of their delegation is the question.
Now now CBob your talking just like me. The signs are all there if one opens there eyes up.
Have a great evening. Time for bed. Good night all.
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Example “A” -
tough choice: breasts—-octomom, breasts—-octomom….
Don Lemon at CNN will be all over this. A panel of experts will be brought in .
oh, well….t’is a far, far better thing I do than I have ever done and t’is a far, far better rest I go to than I have ever known….because today is the first day of the rest of my life, and what I would love I must first set free and so sleep that knits the raveled sleeve of care will soon be making me an afghan for the divan.
oops……SNL might actually be funny this week. good deal.
Sturg -
You should be playing “Mustang Sally” right about now.
that was last night….tonight I’m as free as a hog on ice…….
some kids from wisconsin were in last night and they all got up and sang “On, Wisconsin”…..very stirring.
so for kicks I threw in “They always call him Mr. Football”.
They had me feeling like all Sportsy-Wortsy.
Not an easy task.
Badgers? We don’ need no stinkin’ badgers !
ok i found some fantastic folks in India who are helping me build a custom chat room that works. We’ve worked all night and more to do. Give it a go at http://craigcrawford.com/chat/
btw, for a little while you’re gonna see a popup screen bottom right corner that is annoying, but we are going to get rid of that soon.
Evil Scientists :
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/13/us-britain-badger-cull-idUSBRE89C0KE20121013?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&rpc=76
The only good badger is one down by two touchdowns when the clock runs out.
Sorry, Ms. Cracker.
Go, you Gophers !