Four More


Trail Mixers and guests gathered Election Night to watch and share returns of a presidential election. Click Here for the transcript.

 
Things got a bit nutty in Trail Mix Headquarter’s neighborhood..

I’m not talking about blind optimism, the kind of hope that just ignores the enormity of the tasks ahead or the road blocks that stand in our path. I’m not talking about the wishful idealism that allows us to just sit on the sidelines or shirk from a fight. I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. — President Barack Obama

Transcript of President Obama’s Election Night Speech
Location: McCormick Place Convention Center, Chicago, Illinois
Time: 1:37 a.m. EST, Date: Wednesday, November 7, 2012
(courtesy of the Federal News Service)

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. (Sustained cheers, applause.)

Tonight, more than 200 years after a former colony won the right to determine its own destiny, the task of perfecting our union moves forward. (Cheers, applause.)

It moves forward because of you. It moves forward because you reaffirmed the spirit that has triumphed over war and depression, the spirit that has lifted this country from the depths of despair to the great heights of hope, the belief that while each of us will pursue our own individual dreams, we are an American family, and we rise or fall together as one nation and as one people. (Cheers, applause.)

Tonight, in this election, you, the American people, reminded us that while our road has been hard, while our journey has been long, we have picked ourselves up, we have fought our way back, and we know in our hearts that for the United States of America, the best is yet to come.

(Cheers, applause.) I want to thank every American who participated in this election. (Cheers, applause.) Whether you voted for the very first time — (cheers) — or waited in line for a very long time — (cheers) — by the way, we have to fix that. (Cheers, applause.) Whether you pounded the pavement or picked up the phone — (cheers, applause) — whether you held an Obama sign or a Romney sign, you made your voice heard and you made a difference. (Cheers, applause.)

I just spoke with Governor Romney and I congratulated him and Paul Ryan on a hard-fought campaign. (Cheers, applause.) We may have battled fiercely, but it’s only because we love this country deeply and we care so strongly about its future. From George to Lenore to their son Mitt, the Romney family has chosen to give back to America through public service. And that is a legacy that we honor and applaud tonight. (Cheers, applause.) In the weeks ahead, I also look forward to sitting down with Governor Romney to talk about where we can work together to move this country forward.

(Cheers, applause.)

I want to thank my friend and partner of the last four years, America’s happy warrior, the best vice president anybody could ever hope for, Joe Biden. (Cheers, applause.)

And I wouldn’t be the man I am today without the woman who agreed to marry me 20 years ago. (Cheers, applause.) Let me say this publicly. Michelle, I have never loved you more. (Cheers, applause.) I have never been prouder to watch the rest of America fall in love with you too as our nation’s first lady. (Cheers, applause.)

Sasha and Malia — (cheers, applause) — before our very eyes, you’re growing up to become two strong, smart, beautiful young women, just like your mom. (Cheers, applause.) And I am so proud of you guys. But I will say that for now, one dog’s probably enough. (Laughter.)

To the best campaign team and volunteers in the history of politics — (cheers, applause) — the best — the best ever — (cheers, applause) — some of you were new this time around, and some of you have been at my side since the very beginning.

(Cheers, applause.) But all of you are family. No matter what you do or where you go from here, you will carry the memory of the history we made together. (Cheers, applause.) And you will have the lifelong appreciation of a grateful president. Thank you for believing all the way — (cheers, applause) — to every hill, to every valley. (Cheers, applause.) You lifted me up the whole day, and I will always be grateful for everything that you’ve done and all the incredible work that you’ve put in. (Cheers, applause.)

I know that political campaigns can sometimes seem small, even silly. And that provides plenty of fodder for the cynics who tell us that politics is nothing more than a contest of egos or the domain of special interests. But if you ever get the chance to talk to folks who turned out at our rallies and crowded along a rope line in a high school gym or — or saw folks working late at a campaign office in some tiny county far away from home, you’ll discover something else.

You’ll hear the determination in the voice of a young field organizer who’s working his way through college and wants to make sure every child has that same opportunity. (Cheers, applause.) You’ll hear the pride in the voice of a volunteer who’s going door to door because her brother was finally hired when the local auto plant added another shift. (Cheers, applause.)

You’ll hear the deep patriotism in the voice of a military spouse who’s working the phones late at night to make sure that no one who fights for this country ever has to fight for a job or a roof over their head when they come home. (Cheers, applause.)

That’s why we do this. That’s what politics can be. That’s why elections matter. It’s not small, it’s big. It’s important. Democracy in a nation of 300 million can be noisy and messy and complicated. We have our own opinions. Each of us has deeply held beliefs. And when we go through tough times, when we make big decisions as a country, it necessarily stirs passions, stirs up controversy. That won’t change after tonight. And it shouldn’t. These arguments we have are a mark of our liberty, and we can never forget that as we speak, people in distant nations are risking their lives right now just for a chance to argue about the issues that matter — (cheers, applause) — the chance to cast their ballots like we did today.

But despite all our differences, most of us share certain hopes for America’s future.

We want our kids to grow up in a country where they have access to the best schools and the best teachers — (cheers, applause) — a country that lives up to its legacy as the global leader in technology and discovery and innovation — (scattered cheers, applause) — with all of the good jobs and new businesses that follow.

We want our children to live in an America that isn’t burdened by debt, that isn’t weakened up by inequality, that isn’t threatened by the destructive power of a warming planet. (Cheers, applause.)

We want to pass on a country that’s safe and respected and admired around the world, a nation that is defended by the strongest military on earth and the best troops this — this world has ever known — (cheers, applause) — but also a country that moves with confidence beyond this time of war to shape a peace that is built on the promise of freedom and dignity for every human being.

We believe in a generous America, in a compassionate America, in a tolerant America open to the dreams of an immigrant’s daughter who studies in our schools and pledges to our flag — (cheers, applause) — to the young boy on the south side of Chicago who sees a life beyond the nearest street corner — (cheers, applause) — to the furniture worker’s child in North Carolina who wants to become a doctor or a scientist, an engineer or an entrepreneur, a diplomat or even a president.

That’s the — (cheers, applause) — that’s the future we hope for.

(Cheers, applause.) That’s the vision we share. That’s where we need to go — forward. (Cheers, applause.) That’s where we need to go. (Cheers, applause.)

Now, we will disagree, sometimes fiercely, about how to get there. As it has for more than two centuries, progress will come in fits and starts. It’s not always a straight line. It’s not always a smooth path. By itself, the recognition that we have common hopes and dreams won’t end all the gridlock, resolve all our problems or substitute for the painstaking work of building consensus and making the difficult compromises needed to move this country forward.

But that common bond is where we must begin. Our economy is recovering. A decade of war is ending. (Cheers, applause.) A long campaign is now over. (Cheers, applause.) And whether I earned your vote or not, I have listened to you. I have learned from you. And you’ve made me a better president. And with your stories and your struggles, I return to the White House more determined and more inspired than ever about the work there is to do and the future that lies ahead. (Cheers, applause.)

Tonight you voted for action, not politics as usual. (Cheers, applause.) You elected us to focus on your jobs, not ours.

And in the coming weeks and months, I am looking forward to reaching out and working with leaders of both parties to meet the challenges we can only solve together — reducing our deficit, reforming out tax code, fixing our immigration system, freeing ourselves from foreign oil. We’ve got more work to do. (Cheers, applause.)

But that doesn’t mean your work is done. The role of citizens in our democracy does not end with your vote. America’s never been about what can be done for us; it’s about what can be done by us together, through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self- government. (Cheers, applause.) That’s the principle we were founded on.

This country has more wealth than any nation, but that’s not what makes us rich. We have the most powerful military in history, but that’s not what makes us strong. Our university, our culture are all the envy of the world, but that’s not what keeps the world coming to our shores. What makes America exceptional are the bonds that hold together the most diverse nation on Earth, the belief that our destiny is shared — (cheers, applause) — that this country only works when we accept certain obligations to one another and to future generations, so that the freedom which so many Americans have fought for and died for come with responsibilities as well as rights, and among those are love and charity and duty and patriotism. That’s what makes America great. (Cheers, applause.)

I am hopeful tonight because I have seen this spirit at work in America. I’ve seen it in the family business whose owners would rather cut their own pay than lay off their neighbors and in the workers who would rather cut back their hours than see a friend lose a job. I’ve seen it in the soldiers who re-enlist after losing a limb and in those SEALs who charged up the stairs into darkness and danger because they knew there was a buddy behind them watching their back. (Cheers, applause.) I’ve seen it on the shores of New Jersey and New York, where leaders from every party and level of government have swept aside their differences to help a community rebuild from the wreckage of a terrible storm. (Cheers, applause.)

And I saw it just the other day in Mentor, Ohio, where a father told the story of his 8-year-old daughter whose long battle with leukemia nearly cost their family everything had it not been for health care reform passing just a few months before the insurance company was about to stop paying for her care. (Cheers, applause.) I had an opportunity to not just talk to the father but meet this incredible daughter of his. And when he spoke to the crowd, listening to that father’s story, every parent in that room had tears in their eyes because we knew that little girl could be our own.

And I know that every American wants her future to be just as bright. That’s who we are. That’s the country I’m so proud to lead as your president. (Cheers, applause.)

And tonight, despite all the hardship we’ve been through, despite all the frustrations of Washington, I’ve never been more hopeful about our future. (Cheers, applause.) I have never been more hopeful about America. And I ask you to sustain that hope.

AUDIENCE MEMBER: We got your back, Mr. President!

PRESIDENT OBAMA: I’m not talking about blind optimism, the kind of hope that just ignores the enormity of the tasks ahead or the road blocks that stand in our path. I’m not talking about the wishful idealism that allows us to just sit on the sidelines or shirk from a fight. I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. (Cheers, applause.)

America, I believe we can build on the progress we’ve made and continue to fight for new jobs and new opportunities and new security for the middle class. I believe we can keep the promise of our founding, the idea that if you’re willing to work hard, it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from or what you look like or where you love (ph). It doesn’t matter whether you’re black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American or young or old or rich or poor, abled, disabled, gay or straight. (Cheers, applause.) You can make it here in America if you’re willing to try.

I believe we can seize this future together because we are not as divided as our politics suggests. We’re not as cynical as the pundits believe. We are greater than the sum of our individual ambitions and we remain more than a collection of red states and blue states. We are, and forever will be, the United States of America.

And together, with your help and God’s grace, we will continue our journey forward and remind the world just why it is that we live in the greatest nation on earth. (Cheers, applause.) Thank you, America. (Cheers, applause.) God bless you. God bless these United States. (Cheers, applause.)

115 thoughts on “Four More

  1. Bob I see you’ve been keeping the bar polished while everybody was gone
    Here let me drop a nickle in the jukebox

  2. Well, I’m glad Mitt Romney won’t be my President, and I’m hoping the Democrats aren’t drunk on power for more than the next 24 hours.

  3. What we learned tonight…

    Romney is a big baby. Who may try to buy this election by lawyers.

  4. Your lordship:

    It was a rather sobering election Over 6 billion spent and when you look around nothing much changed. So I don’t see much for the Democrats to party about except that they survived.

    Jack

  5. David did a wonderful job of helping win this election! *smooch* to him.

    HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN!

    And Faux News and Turd Blossom are being negative, still.

  6. Shepard Smith thinks Mittens should concede really pretty funny Mittens is looking very petty

    I want to hear Prick Morris explain himself

  7. from the political wire side bar

    Same sex marriage approval has gone to the ballot 33 times and failed every single time. Tonight it may pass in four states — Maryland, Maine, Minnesota and Washington.

  8. From last thread:

    Bishop Romney wants to run again. We have not seen the last of this man or his handmaiden.

    Have a great evening or should I say early morning?

  9. Also from last thread:

    By the way, Bishop Romney conceded after Virginia went to the President. So Ohio no longer relevant in the election.

    Have a great morning.

  10. “The electoral spanking is profound.” -- Michael Steele (MSNBC, About Mourdock’s and Akin’s loses)

    lol

  11. I zone out during speeches. However, I perked up when I heard Obama allude to the grand bargain.

  12. Chris Matthews is mad about Obama ignoring the Democratic Party and Bill Clinton during his acceptance speech.

  13. Love that you post the chat transcript. Funny stuff. Can’t watch the TV and be online at the same time. I’m half high tech.

  14. Fwiw,the RCP no toss up map was exactly right with the exception of FL, which it showed for Rmoney. So with the exception of Rasmussen and Gallup, the polls were pretty fricking good this time ’round.

    I see Boner was being his usual, sanguine self. Not a shred of grace in that prick.

    But it’s a sweet morning. How you doing Ping? Sleep well?

  15. Congratulations President Obama. I enjoyed watching the coverage last night. A couple of highlights…Gibbs on Faux News cable. Axelrod on NBC network. Even Chuck Todd had a good info --

    To paraphrase…Rmoney was supposed to be the numbers guy and Obama won by the numbers…campaigned by the numbers and Rmoney and his team were counting on faith and hope. The irony — the businessman should have run by the numbers. Obama used to be the one with hope message.

    Paul Ryan is a loser. Makes me happy to type that! Rmoney is a coward.

  16. Good Morning all,
    Enjoyed the coverage last night. So many good people won last night, Elizabeth Warren, yes!

    Craig,
    The coverage here with the addition of the new chat room was exceptional as well, thanks.

    Thanks to all for their info and participation…

  17. Martin Henrich wins…Heather Wilson goes down in flames (watch out Susana!!). Martin is a young Jeff Bingaman.

    The redistricting worked for repugs as we are stuck with the tea bagger house…Roswell is so repug and Chez Cruces is so democrat…the ranchers won. But, the good guys won the big stuff.

  18. ahhhhh….. I feel good… like I know that I should…

    Not only am I happy nationally… but my state…
    here in NH we went blue… and we are now the state of women. We elected a D woman for our next governor… we have 2 congressional districts… both D women won last night… both our Senators are women (one D, one R)…. I LOVE IT!!

  19. “I wonder what would have happened if I had shown my taxes, not written that infernal “Let Detroit go Bankrupt” op-ed, the hurricane had hit SC again, and I’d just told the damned truth at every available opportunity.”

    --Mitch Romuley

  20. The most unhappy last night? Candy Crowley…CNN stuck her at Rmoney headquarters. Payback for her ‘throwing’ the second debate for Obama. When she stated Rmoney was not conceeding because they were still writing the speech…it a damn good thing Rmoney isn’t President. I thought every campaign was speech prepared.

  21. It’s interesting to note that in this country another tobacco, called marijuana, has to leapfrog its way to legality state by state, in microscopic increments as it were, all instead of a general national moment of clarity and sanity like the repeal of Prohibition. Clarity as in giving some thought to the actual number of people who already smoke this tobacco, legal or not. Just like Prohibition. A lot of money is always made by Prohibitions. Un-taxed money. Hide-out money.

  22. Same sex marriage is now the LAW in Maine, passing by binding referendum 53% to 47%.

    Maine becomes the FIRST state to legalize same sex marriage by a popular vote.

    The Dems also took back BOTH houses of the Maine legislature. We still have a GOP/Teaparty Governor but he’s not going to be able to do very much now.

  23. You know…I could be wrong…..but I think The Day of the Goober as a national voice has hit the big sundown.

    but many a slip twixt the cup and the lip.

  24. I have to agree with Chris Matthews about Obama’s speech.

    He should have mentioned Bill Clinton who did more to turn this around than anything Obama or Biden did.

    Obama should also have thanked Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie.

  25. sturge…legalizing Marijuana cuts into the cartel…by 30%. Holder take note — the country is moving on without your stupidity.

  26. Corey
    Rove is just a buffoon, it is Dick Morris you can trust with the real numbers.

    };-)

  27. OK now that Obama has won his second term can he quit bringing his personal Iman in the back door and what do you think about those plans to turn the rose garden into a mosque?

    Jack

  28. Best Moment of the night. The president’s speech. :smile:

    Second best. Rove’s Fox debacle. I hope it haunts him and the network forever. Talk about your parallel universe, the whole thing from start to finish was surreal.

  29. I’m gonna get Nate Silver to help me with my fantasy baseball team next year.

    Last night’s favorite tweet: If Nate Silver said the Chiefs were gonna win the Super Bowl, I’d bete every cent of my kids’ college money and head for Gate’s BBQ. -- TJ Quinn ESPN

  30. Trump calls for revolution.
    Rove says remember the confusion caused when you fox guys called the election early in 2000.
    Colorado legalizes recreational cannabis use.
    Elizabeth Warren.
    Todd Akin and Mourdock.

    Anti-science, scripture-spouting, gun-totin’ pilgrims of Backwardness: Shut ‘er down, boys; your world is being left behind. [Cue plaintive solo voice with choir behind and full orchestra in dirge-like rendering, "I wiiiiiiiiish I waaaaas in Dix-eeeeeeeeeee...]

  31. Other things on the family facebook page.

    “You do realize that the only reason Obama won is because the Democrats committed massive voter fraud”

  32. If Nate Silver said the Chiefs were gonna win the Super Bowl,

    I would bet that he spent the night in Colorado celebrating.

  33. Jamie

    I think the voter suppression efforts by the Republicans really worked against them especially in AA districts. Those folks risked their lives to get the vote, what is a few hours in line.

  34. As to Obama’s speech, we all know he gives good speeches but we also know he sucks at governing. Last night was speeches today he has to fix his own mess in the so called “fiscal cliff” So do we see the new dynamic Obama or the same easy to bluff and bully Obama?

    Jack

  35. Jack…your 9:39 remark is so incorrect. I think I will sign-off now…I do want to celebrate and let Obama have his day.

  36. I nominate John King CNN (too stupid) for the biggest asshole move of the night who to demonstrate his point that this is a divided country showed the vote by county — a lot of counties have little or no population. Gee John it’s one person one vote not one hectare one vote.

  37. The problem for any kind of compromise is best demonstrated by Mitch McConnell on a recent 60 minutes show he said it was his job to stop Obama from doing anything.

    I think Obama should buy candy and flowers and go to see Boner and just court him until the media puts so much pressure on the goops to make a deal

  38. BW

    Obama can’t have his day because Obama screwed up and he has to cleanup the mess he made. This fiscal cliff is his mess.

    Jack

  39. I would also make a bunch of ads to run in various congressional districts — talking about what the president wants to do and the sad fact that no republican will talk to him — he could look very sad and lonely

    The alternative is for him address the nation -- say he has tried and the republicans have refused and all drive off the cliff together -- it would certainly reduce spending…and raise taxes across the board but not equitably.

    And where is Mary Matalin to explain why she was so wrong about so many things — the outcome for one but how women will vote and why —

    And republicans think about your attitude your abortion and rape — Akin and Murdoch got caught in public but it is the same position the Paul Ryan holds and Mittens occasionally held

  40. The DNC needs to ramp up for 2014 -- and go back to the Dean strategy and everyone needs to rethink the %$#@$# redistricting that has created all these right and left districts -- it is just wrong.

  41. ps the exchanges are down because of issues in the german economy not the Obama’s re-election

  42. Old people and people planning on getting old who voted for Rmoney must hate themselves

    I wonder about the senior demo -- in 2008 baby boomers were not senior citizens -- they are now and I think on balance a more progressive voting group

  43. Michele Bachman almost lost -- I think it would be a good idea to target the voices of the looney right and keep them busy on the home front

    Let’s keep Darryl Issa busy

  44. KGC

    I think one of the major problems with the current setup by the Democratic party is they seem to have no national strategy to grow the number of Democrats in lower level state offices. As a result when you have an opportunity to pick off Republicans there is no one qualified to challenge.
    The Republicans have been doing grass roots for years and it is showing.

    Jack

  45. 15 months ago, I projected that Obama would be re-elected and was ridiculed by several folks who claimed that he couldn’t possibly win.

    I am now ready to accept the tribute due me from my critics.

    If the President were 100% White instead of 50% Black, this election would have been a landslide comparable to 1936, and boehner would be looking for a job.

  46. X-R

    You are truly wonderful. I do think the appearance of the horse race was ginned up by the media as they were the major beneficiaries as always follow the money.

  47. KGC

    Looking at last nights exit polls Boomers seemed evenly divided.
    The so called “Safe Generation”, are being true to for they went over overwhelmingly for Romney. Remember they are also where the Reagan Democrats came from.

  48. If the President were 100% White instead of 50% Black, this election would have been a landslide comparable to 1936, and boehner would be looking for a job.

    X-R

    Ugg that’s what Ann Coulter said — only she was hoping it would cost him the election

  49. Bill O’Reilly is so sad because traditional America is dead and by traditional America he means white men

    Wisconsin has almost redeemed itself for Gov Wallker and his keepers

  50. XRep

    If that was directed at me
    Yep, I predicted that Obama would lose at that time. Of course that was before the Republican party did their weekly shoot themselves in the foot routine.
    So Obama’s job performance never became an issue. It was all culture war all the time. Romney never did the Nixon pivot until the debate and never demonstrated he was not a slave to his wing nuts. Even though Rush provided a perfect opportunity.

    The real story of this election isn’t Obama’s win but the self destruction of the Republican party.
    The wing nuts have always been out there but they have never been allowed to play with the national election machinery. Any other time they would have put together a “compassionate conservative” agenda and been able to peddle how nice they were. But this time they didn’t even try.

    Jack

  51. Most places where?
    Around here they are retreating to the urban areas and letting the Republicans have the suburbs.

  52. Ya know, looking at Rove from last night, it is obvious that he really believed that the Republicans were going to win the Whitehouse. He looked just stunned and confused. Talk about living in a bubble. It is one thing to peddle Koolaid, it another thing to get addicted to your Koolaid.
    Not very professional.
    Jack

  53. couldn’t agree more…

    No serious political party in America — no legitimate party in any viable democracy — can win an election by suppressing votes. So long as the Republican Party endorses (and enacts) voting laws designed to make it harder for registered voters to vote, so long as Republican officials like Ohio’s Jon Husted contort themselves to interpret those laws in a restrictive fashion, the Republicans will continue to play a loser’s game.

    -- Andrew Cohen, The Atlantic

  54. OMG Mary Matalin was on CNN and they shouldn’t have her back until she gets a rabies shot

    Democrats need a copy of that tape and when ever people talk about how the goopers reach across the aisle --play this performance. The woman was a raving maniac

    Obama and then a whole bunch of words starting with ‘d’--she had thought out — all of which apply to her and the Rmoney campaign way more than Obamarama

    And Wolfe didn’t even ask her about how wrong she was on election day. Literally she was one step away from frothing at the mouth

    She is one ugly lady

  55. Great speech huh? Yes just like the used car salesman.!

    But when U try to bring back the car for repairs……nada, and that is exactly what Obama is going to give us NADA…but sure glad that Romney was not elected….he would have re-poed that car that he sold us knowing that we just bought his bs….i think what did him in…was his “let Michigan go bankrupt” line.

    Obama owes a lot to spanish news pundit Jorge Ramos…by himself he brought in the latino votes in high #s….will he be ignored as a moderator in the next debates…?…hope so, I liked it when he did his own….now he must include third party challengers…….see there is a way around things

    One last thing….California Voters are just plain…., want to say stupid…I don’t know what to say, insert anything at all…but….how they re-elected Dianne Feinstein to run her inside trading position from the chair (intelligence committee) that she sits on….is beyond me and others Ive talked to this am.

    She and her husband own Defense Contracting Corps that make a ton of free cash from the government..and then they sell weapons all over the world and make huge profits getting our kid killed with the same weapons…..

    Back to that great speech……yeah now what?

    Will he take a much needed vacation…after all, he must be tired from all of that campaigning no?

    or will he finally be more than “PRESENT” for the country…..glad that he had girls…not boys…would not want another Bush dynasty in the making…

  56. ps,

    Ron Paul would have cleaned Obama clock…Maybe the R’s just didn’t want it bad enough.!

  57. Rick and I went to the local cafe for breakfast this morning. We wanted to hear the post election chatter along with having a nice meal. This town is mostly Republican… and the buzz didn’t disappoint us. It was mostly excuses for Romney and how the hell could our state have gone for Obama.

    It was 98% men. All who piped up and said “I didn’t vote for him”. Then this little female (myself) piped up… “well I did”. You could have heard a pin drop.

    Then a couple guys came over and sat with us and said they voted for Obama too. We had our own little party.

  58. I thought I would have some fun this morning and tune into FOX. It was not fun. These people are deluded, sore losers…They have learned nothing and continue spreading the bile they are so infamous for…

  59. have’t seen the toe-sucker since Monday..probably ran away as fast as his fat little legs could carry him

  60. Bill O’Reilly says Obama won because 50 per cent of Americans want stuff…

    Yes..we want:

    A government that does not celebrate ignorance,
    A government that embraces science,
    A government that fights for equality,
    A government that represents interests of all the people…

  61. Solar, love ya man, and glad to see you back on the trail, but WADR, Ron had his chance and couldn’t clean Rmoney’s clock. The libertarian approach to fix your own damn potholes doesn’t sell. And his son is nuttier still. Ron’s a smart guy, but his politics aren’t persuasive on a broad scale. I’m of the belief that ‘murcans want a middle of the road president who has slightly left of center views socially and that they don’t view the fiscal cliff as something the US is actually going to fall off. He’s likely going to be as hamstrung by Boner and company as he was his first term if not more -- I just hope he has the cajones to make Boner blink.

  62. I don’t think “the plan” called for a gop victory else they would have run someone who had an actual chance of winning. I know it “seems” like romney had a chance, but he never really got within striking distance. Dog on the roof, mormon, massachusetts gov. record, disdain for the common herd, Bain Capital, self-deportation, Romney-care, overseas bank accounts, no tax returns, [somebody or other knew he wouldn't show them] jobs to china exporter, and finally unable to tell the truth….he was a sorry pick for the gop.

  63. When MSNBC & Comedy Central called the race, I switched to Faux out of curiosity. I saw Rove, that FF, swinging his prodigious neck fat around, looking at his little doodle pad covered with numbers and explaining how it wasn’t over (while Chuck Todd was on MSNBC explaining how it was, and would get worse for Rmoney -- which it did). Megan Kelly looked like an idiot walking through the building with her microphone to confront the statisticians since Rove was having a cow, whose response was, “We’re comfortable with that” (prediction that Ohio would go to Obama).

  64. I woke up a little disappointed that Bachmann will remain with us for another two years and Allen West’s fate has not been decided, yet.

    Last night, Chris Matthews went on and on about Obama’s speech’s flaws and how angry he was that Obama did not speak to the successes of the Democrats. The rest of the MSNBC talent looked at him like he was crazy. I have to admit that Matthews made many great points. Obama’s made a lot of failures his last four years because of his inability to get on solid ground with Pelosi and Reid. His god-awful negotiating skills prove that point quite well.

  65. “maybe somebody somewhere thought he could win.”
    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    It wasn’t any of the South Carolina conservatives I know. They mostly wanted Newt Gingrich, someone who somehow gave them confidence that they could re-take the white house.

  66. whskyjack, great summary of the election:

    The real story of this election isn’t Obama’s win but the self destruction of the Republican party.

    Obama’s lackluster performance was overshadowed by the GOP who were in a race to the bottom with the Tea Party and the insane. You can get the crazies on board with anything but the rest of society shakes its head with disbelief. They don’t get on board. It would be true to say that Romney snatched defeat out of the jaws of defeat.

    solarcrete

    … yeah now what?

    Nicely summed up.

    So what if you won the election Obama. Your opponent was never going to win. All the fundamentals were in your favour and still are. So what are you going to do? More of the same? Perhaps think about the 99% who are the only taxpayers in America and so their needs should be dealt with by government. The 1% only pay nominal taxes when they feel like it and sure as eggs do not spend money on employing Americans, unless they happen to be undocumented from Mexico or further south. So why would any sane person cosy up to this group? No votes and no help. Perhaps Obama could do something that actually takes the country into new and uncharted territory -- fiscal responsibility coupled with social equity. In other words, forget the 1% and work for the 99%. It’s this group that has the energy and the jobs to get America moving again.

  67. Adding to my above comment, the way the economy and society moves away from the 1% is to decouple the finance industry growth from economic activity. The change in the American economy from manufacturing to banking means low job creation and hence a sluggish economy. Bank jobs only manage paper in a nil sum gain world. It is just a global double entry system. One person’s credit is another one’s debit of the exact same amount. Nothing added and nothing lost. This is not the formula for job creation, just stagnation. Ask the Brits how they feel about an economy which gains 35% of its GNP from financial instruments. If you go to the gutted industrial towns of Glasgow, Bradford, Leeds, Sheffield, Manchester and Newcastle to name a few, you won’t find too many jobs there being created by the banks. The greatest generator of employment in most nations are the “mom & pop” businesses that provide either goods or services -- something really physical -- for people to consume. They are the ones who have their ear to the market and the ability to respond with rapidity. They are also the beacons of social responsibility and stability. Usually they are close to their workers and so know each worker as an individual and not a cypher on a balance sheet to be manipulated at whim. It is this closeness that allows the business to tap into the potential offered by the individual worker. They do not expect the worker to clock the brain off as they clock onto work, something that is key to survival in the big corporation. And so this is the most innovative and productive sector in the economy. But it is also the most abused and disregarded by politicians of all persuasion, except when they want to win an election. Obama mouths the words like Romney but neither mean it. They are both captives of corporate capitalism represented by Wall Street and the banks. And that is no where land for the rest of America.

  68. Speaking of the GOP, this article sums it up neatly.

    “We’re going the way of the dinosaurs, and quick,” said David Johnson, a top GOP strategist in Florida. “The meteor’s already hit, and we’re just trying to wonder what the blast zone will look like.”

    “Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, a Cuban American Republican viewed as a potential presidential candidate in 2016, declared after Obama’s victory that Republicans “need to work harder than ever to communicate our beliefs” to minorities and immigrant communities.”

    Rubio thinks the minority and immigrant communities don’t get the ‘pugns’ beliefs? Is he nuts? That’s exactly what they do get. PUHLEASE work harder to inform them of your beliefs.

  69. Bill, no doubt the financial services sector of the economy does not produce products that when purchased generate jobs. Being from a town that had to transition from an economy based on manufacturing(Birmingham, AL) to one based on the service industry, education, medicine & financial services, I can say that you are largely right. Of course the same can be said for professional services in general (shhh, I’d be out of business), or pretty much any non-manufacturing sectors of the economy. But whether the end product is money, advice or widgets, demand determines how many employees are needed to meet that demand. This is where the ‘pugns miss the boat. Taxes on the wealthy do not suppress demand in the economy, and lowering them does not increase demand. Lower income earners is where the bang for the tax buck meets the road -- but you knew that.

  70. The other thing about polls: Every poll is sponsored — sometimes co-sponsored.. like the NBC/WallStJournal poll. Now NBC and Wall Street Journal way well have different things they want to get from a poll. WSJ, a Murdoch paper, will insert specific questions into the poll. Now think about that. Murdoch and whoever it is at Comcast (NBC) might be of similar slant, or they may be diametrically opposed. It is in every cable news outlet + newspaper’s interest to portray a race as close as possible. If you knew that the true numbers were around 54-46, would you be glued to the set? Likely not. Then the parties have their own internal and external polls. Frank Luntz is one of those guys who lab-tests every single word the GOP utters. Focus groups. That’s where he comes up with “job-killing”, etc. The other side does it too, but not nearly as effectively (although they’re learning very quickly). For instance, the Ds started to embrace the name “Obama-care” and why not? 2012-2016 is the time when most of that bill goes into effect.

    GALLUP is a horrible polling company. They don’t know their methodology, and can’t read the tea-leaves. Rasmussen is always 3 or 4 points in favour of GOP. PPP is always a couple of points in favour of Ds. You have to know how to read them. You can make a statistic say anything you want.

    SO, next election, go with your gut.

  71. I prefer YouGOV but that might just be my own vanity since I am polled by them often. :twisted:

  72. RCP did a good job of looking across polls and coming up with trends. When Florida is declared for Obama it will be the only state they did not predict correctly in their “no tossup” Electoral college map. They did underestimate the popular vote margin, but it was skewed by Gallup and Rasmussen’s late polling. Looking at this pol or that is not likely to tell you much since sampling error in any poll relying on respondents’ voluntary consent to respond can be huge, or right on. It’s faux random sampling, adjusted to mimic the electorate as assessed by the pollster. And the responding sample on say, November 1, is not necessarily anywhere near representative of the voting population on November 6. All that said, overall, the pollsters got it mostly right this time -- Rasmussen and Gallup excluded.

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