Petraeus, Hangover Cure

A high-stakes sex scandal is just what Washington needed to cope with the loss of its marathon bender on presidential politics. Chanting “fiscal cliff” 4,000 times a day just wasn’t doing the trick.

Nothing like dirty emails and bureaucratic intrigue to get the juices flowing again. For a while there it looked like we might have to talk about stuff that Americans really care about. Close call.

For Republicans searching to understand why the country ripped their faces off on Election Day, the disgraced David Petraeus offers a chance to keep on making up stuff about President Obama — and hope it comes true.

The Administration gets a handy distraction from the possibility that it will again sacrifice campaign promises to raise taxes for the wealthy.

And the news media can go back to chasing fireflies without a net.

Why endure a hangover when you can just get drunk again?

98 thoughts on “Petraeus, Hangover Cure

  1. Helluva a piece in NYT by Thomas Edsall on how changing demographics are shifting culture war advantage to Dems but toward the end best stuff starts with this warning:

    “Social, cultural and moral issues have become favorable terrain for the Democratic Party, in the way that they once were for the Republicans, but there are economic trends that do not bode so well for core Democratic constituencies, given their disproportionately low income and high-unemployment rates. The issue of mounting salience – unaddressed so far by Democrats and Republicans – is the hollowing out of the job market. A growing body of evidence demonstrates that jobs that provide mid-range incomes are disappearing, but just as important, the kinds of jobs that have long served as stepping-stones up the ladder of opportunity are disappearing too.”

  2. “…hollowing out of the job market. A growing body of evidence demonstrates that jobs that provide mid-range incomes are disappearing, but just as important, the kinds of jobs that have long served as stepping-stones up the ladder of opportunity are disappearing too.”

    I suppose that was that “giant sucking sound” I’d been hearing.

  3. Just think, The House’s lame-duck session is full of Tea Partiers. I think we will go over the cliff or curb depending on you view.

    Tea Party Declares America Dead By Suicide
    By Mark Esposito, November 11, 2012

    Still reeling from the unprecedented hits of last week’s national election, Tea Partiers have become particularly irrational. In Lebanon Ohio, local tea party officials called for a “counter-revolution” even as they mourned the death of America. Texas Republican official, Peter Morrison, has publicly asked for an “amicable divorce” of godfearin’ GOP’ers from the “maggots” (his words) who voted for Obama. Morrison, who also has a job screening textbooks for the great state of Texas, is particularly incensed at Asian-Americans and Hispanics who voted for Obama, accusing them of voting on an “ethnic basis.” Perhaps the greatest case of kettle blacking in recent memory.

    Not to be outdone in battleground state of Ohio, Cincinnati Tea Party leaders may have earned the “Most Creative Fool” award by publishing the obituary above, and offering this studied prediction:

    We will be a socialist nation within months. However, a revolution is rising and all those elected officials that are blind to what they have done to this country should be encouraged to become enlightened, should be encouraged to step down and should not be reelected.

  4. “We will be a socialist nation within months. However, a revolution is rising and all those elected officials that are blind to what they have done to this country should be encouraged to become enlightened, should be encouraged to step down and should not be reelected.”

    Yep, led by the same socialist, that confiscated everybody’s guns, re-instituted the Fairness Doctrine,and is running all those FEMA re-education camps.
    I doubt that it will even take him months, he should be able to get that done by the start of business tomorrow. ;-)

  5. pogo, last thread you said cantor, 2nd in command house critter,

    shoudl have informed the appropriate Congressinal committees and the White House. That obviously did not happen.

    surely he told somebody. info too juicy, too ridden with portent not to have been shared within the cabal.

    cbs photo run last night of the victim of the threatening emails seemed gratuitously sexier than need be. couldn’t they have found one a little more mundane or businesslike?

  6. The woman receiving the threatening emails was a State Department employee.

    Problem solved. Blame Hillary. ;-)

  7. poobah, not only “The Administration gets a handy distraction” but the house and senate get a good smoke screen to hide behind while their workers build a barrier in front of the f. cliff.

  8. the resignation may also have been expedited by the upcoming problems that may occur during the planned hearings on the recent sexual harassment case of a commanding officer and female subordinate officers.

  9. The Republicans are going to make fools of themselves trying to make this a political issue.

    Every rational person in the USA wants action on the economy and this is what we get from the GOP?

    This is more evidence of their total cluelessness.

  10. The Petraeus scandal also has at its heart the major problem of the GOP. These powerful men just can’t seem to get the concept that women are not their property to use in any fashion that suits them in whichever room in the house they choose to be serviced.

    Women both left and right are finally starting to let them know they are standing on our last nerve.

    It doesn’t matter if you are pro life or pro choice -- stay at home with the kiddies or have a career either/monetary or professional -- live a life of indulged leisure trophy wife or put in a 16 hour home/work/kids servitude, politicians just don’t get to make laws about us or our bodies not to mention raising money for campaigns that doesn’t solve any of the problems.

    Now cut out the nonsense because we will vote for nothing but Democrats and preferably women Democrats until you get the message or the GOP dies a well deserved political death.

  11. Yep, I care more about Petraeus’ sex life than I do the economy.

    Thank goodness for all the important distractions!

  12. I just can’t keep up with the scandal
    lol

    You cable news watchers need to do a better job of keeping me in the loop
    So now you are telling me that the other woman is not the wife as I read yesterday but someone from the state department.
    So what next? was Hillary involved? Giving Bill a little payback maybe? The mind boggles

    I’m going back economics…..

    Jack

  13. The other woman is NOT a state department employee or as a matter of fact — not an employee of any federal agency. She is a wealthy wife of a Tampa doctor and an army groupie and a friend of the Petraeus family — what we don’t know so far is why THE MISTRESS would write to her and exactly what she said but apparently she did.

  14. If the choice is changing social security to become an entitlement program or going off the cliff — I pick the cliff

    Also I think based on the timeline established for Petraeus if they asked him about something like an affair during his confirmation hearing — he must have lied

  15. Jack,
    I think that they ought to hand the whole mess over to the National Enquirer. They might even pay us for the story, do the investigation — and then we could just read about it at market while we’re checking out.

    Love you line about Hillary and the payback!

  16. Craig… thanks for the laughs…

    I’m with Jack on this one… I don’t have time right now to care who slept with whom and why or what for… so all I can say at the moment is …. whatever.

    here’s my choice for today’s CSM cartoon

  17. On 60 minutes last night there was an interesting piece on the jobs that are available but going unfilled --good manufacturing jobs

    The issue is who is going to pay for training and re-training. The company being interviewed said -- we do not have the time or money to do the training in this case the feds put up a program and did a concentrated training program.

    I know the training or re-training and its cost was an issue when the auto plants closed in California.

    It appears there are good jobs but the people out of work are not properly trained and don’t have access to training. Aren’t the Republicans the ones who want to cut education? And I guess since they think self-reliance is the only way to go — they would have provided neither the training or the education. I wonder how the plant owner would feel about that

    I can’t imagine anyone ever voting for any republican under any circumstances except the truth is we vote for our politicians based on looks and popularity.

  18. So, as to my point on the OT about why Broadwell would send “threatening” emails to another woman:

    a) To mark her territory because this other woman was also involved or interested in the General?

    b) Because she knew it would make the affair public, somehow, thereby manipulating her way onto the front page?

    The General should’ve been more disciplined, but you know, human frailty and all that rot. I’m just trying to figure out her angle in sending those emails.

    Last week, I said I was tired of hearing “fiscal cliff” every 9 seconds. Now, I think I kind of miss it. I’m sure the folks in Sandy’s path would be none too pleased about the way the attention to them has been sucked away so quickly. Well, they’d be none too pleased if they had power & knew about it.

  19. I try to go to the Grand Canyon whenever I have a chance, because it is only a 3 hour drive and I never get tired of looking at it.

    I like to get as close as possible to the edge as I can and look down, and snap a few pictures if possible.
    It is as beautiful as it is exhilarating.

    Me thinks that if congress and the beltway media were to visit the canyon, they would see only what was visible from the parking lot.

    Not much chance that they would be looking over the edge of the cliff. ;-)

  20. Perhaps any men who knew about this earlier, didn’t want to say anything lest it shine a light on their own indescretions?

    crackers -- NBC has aired stories of small manufacturing plants who do training/on-the-job shadowing & it’s working well for them.

    The bigger problem would seem to be that many plants have been shut down & disassembled; relationships with vendors/customers lost; distribution & other processes obsolete. Gearing up is going to take some doing on many levels.

    It would be great if educated people from India didn’t get soooo many of the higher-paying jobs in my area. A lot of the money they make does not stay here; it gets sent back to their homes. Plus, I’m sure there are Americans they could hire for a song these days.

    As a country, we have a really, really crappy business model.

  21. The tortured logic of the right never ceases to amaze.

    If General Petraeus gave into human frailty, then by extension Obama must somehow be at fault. I guess we are left to believe that Obama, not the general had control over his zipper.

    The right truly does inhabit a strange and unusual realm. When they peer through the looking glass all they see are mad hatters.

  22. On the jobless recovery front, it is proof once more of the law of supply and demand. If you have a whole lot of people globally capable of doing the same job, then business will go where they can get the cheapest labor only balanced by quality of performance and costs to manufacture and transport cheaply. It’s getting very crowded out there and the world is dividing into nobles and serfs. Serfs don’t bring home much of a paycheck.

    So if you don’t have what it takes to have a truly rare skill for service, product, or creation, then you better know how to fix the plumbing for a close to home service industry particularly in a climate where the nobles are trying to destroy the guilds (unions).

  23. Way creepier: the BBC story & the Elmo puppeteer story. Suddenly, General P seems pretty vanilla.

  24. OMG babawawa has on Nudi and Calista to talk about Petraeus — Ms Wawa needs a trip to the irony board

  25. actually anything to get the media attention away from goading the parties in critterville into feuding over every small mention of compromise is a step back from the f cliff. right now the adults on the hill need some time to work things out, to make peace with one another, to do some creative accounting. tell the kiddies to go out and play with their shiny new soldier and spy toys so mommy and daddy can pay the bills.

  26. alittle more than a “groupie” imo:

    Kelley lives with her family on Bayshore Boulevard and serves as an unpaid social liaison to MacDill Air Force Base, where the military’s Central Command and Special Operations Command are located.

    A former associate of Petraeus said there was no affair between the two, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the retired general’s private life. The associate said Kelley and her husband were longtime friends of Petraeus and his wife.

    Staffers for Petraeus said Kelley and her husband were regular guests at events he held at Central Command headquarters.

    A U.S. official said the coalition countries represented at Central Command gave Kelley an appreciation certificate on which she was referred to as an “honorary ambassador” to the coalition, but she has no official status and is not employed by the U.S. government.

    http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-news/2012/nov/12/5/friend-petraeus-began-affair-after-taking-cia-job-ar-562320/

  27. she sounds like a army groupie to me
    unpaid social liaison — what is that

  28. They are now saying that Cantor “made sure” that Mueller knew. Wonder how, and when. I don’t care about Petraeus’ dalliance -- I care about trying to fix blame for who knew what when and who told who and when. All I can say is that based on what I’ve heard, Obama was the last to know -- except for us.

    Chloe, NAM is almost like the Chamber of Commerce -- there’s nothing neutral about their analyses. For a fleeting time when I was doing some nanotechnology legal work I was on a committee once in my former life as a big firm lawyer that was advising the WVAM. Nothing balanced about their views.

  29. It’s a sad state of affairs (pardon the pun) when Americans are more concerned with a tawdry D.C. sex-scandal, than the genuinely important issues facing us, like this troubling feud between Nicki Minaj and Mariah Carey.

  30. Tee hee hee… I found a picture of the “2nd woman” in this whole “scandal” business (because honestly, we all just want to see who’s $#%^ing who, right?), and it was featured in an article hosted on an “Irish-American” news website, because apparently this 2nd woman is “Irish-American”.

    You can’t make this stuff up, people.

  31. Pogo

    Apparently a would be whistle blower in the FBI called Cantor to complain the investigation might be covering something up .. Cantor said because it was so vague he called the FBI to relay the information…
    There must be nothing there to help the goopers or Cantor would be dragging it through the mud

  32. Blue

    In addition to the lack of flood insurance, FEMA will only pay $39,000 at most on a lost home some of which had been in the same families for three generations. This is New York and New Jersey. Even modest homes on Staten Island are in the neighborhood of a half million.

  33. I find it quite amusing the republicans saying Betrayher should have resigned after all it was nobody’s business

    yet they are happy to interfere in everyone else’s private life

    and Glenn Beck is just bat shit crazy -- his show is a stream of conscious that is just embarrassing
    and Pat and Stu they will end up being sued.

  34. But through fema you can get very low cost loans
    I know it’s not a grant to make one whole but it is
    something

    Maybe communities can get together and get some money for people who have been wiped out grants etc

    Maybe the Truck Frump still has that five million he was waving around

  35. Grover Norquist called American tax payers peasants
    Isn’t that reason enough to dump him

  36. We are apparently a very shallow people —
    We elected George Bush because more people wanted to have a beer with him than John Kerry --that and the sec’y of state of Ohio stole the election
    We elected the Obamarama because we made such a mistake with Shrub and rejected Mittens because he reminded us of John Kerry

  37. To all our veterans on the blog and throughoutthe country I send my thanks and admiration for your service and sacrifices.

    I think the reason the crazy woman sent those emails
    is that she was jealous. Jealousy is one of the most
    destructive forces in the world. Envy to me is logical, but jealousy is sick. Apparently this new woman was popular with men and dipstick broadwell
    couldn’t handle it. I think jealousy is enough to have caused this easily. Think ‘Fatal Attraction.’

  38. “Chloe, NAM is almost like the Chamber of Commerce — there’s nothing neutral about their analyses. For a fleeting time when I was doing some nanotechnology legal work I was on a committee once in my former life as a big firm lawyer that was advising the WVAM. Nothing balanced about their views.”

    Pogo,
    Thanks… I’m actually glad to hear that — I don’t know what to believe anymore.

    … this has been a fun thread to read. Really is a good break from the stress of the actual election.

  39. Tony, sorry to have missed you yesterday.

    Hope you and Solar chime in on your opinion of the craziness going on right now.

  40. Bethy,
    I thought of Fatal Attraction too… as the plot thickens.

    You never know where these things may go, but it never ends up happily for anyone involved.

  41. … maybe it’s just that Carol has been able to ‘lighten’ me up a lot with her optimistic attitude lately (over on her site). I told her it’s contagious.

  42. Staying abreast of current affairs can really suck the life out of you, eh?

    :cool:

  43. I thought long and hard about that emoticon. I’m not sure if I can keep this up.

  44. Shameless plug:

    “For anyone nearby Orlando Wed Nov 14 I’ll be speaking and signing books: League of Women voters lunch — ticket info.. http://bit.ly/TpkvS5” -Craig Crawford

  45. OK, a modicum of shame.

    Goodnight.

    EDIT: (Oops, sorry, Jaslf, I should have quit while I was ahead. Carry on.)

  46. Holly Petraeus and Scott Broadwell.
    I can’t imagine how their lives are imploding.
    Good luck to both of them.

  47. Question.

    Have we reached the point when we can begin asking,

    What did Cantor know and when did he know it?

    More importantly why did he know anything?


  48. TOP STORY — OBAMA’S 2011 GRAND BARGAIN DETAILED IN DOCUMENTS OBTAINED BY BOB WOODWARD
    by Taylor Marsh

    “He is, in his gut, a fiscal conservative. There is a Blue Dog Streak in him.” – David Plouffe in The Price of Politics, by Bob Woodward

    IF YOU haven’t read Bob Woodward’s latest book, The Price of Politics, you may not appreciate the documents below fully. We’re about to see Obama’s “excessive pragmatism,” as Larry Summers calls it, in stark relief. But you do get an idea of President Obama’s biggest legacy project, which began in 2011. They don’t call it the “grand bargain” for nothing and he’s the one pushing it, not Republicans.

    It will make you understand what I wrote after Obama’s emotional talk with his troops in Chicago, how it’s always about him, no investment in Democratic Party principles or that legacy.

  49. Hi all,
    Chloe,
    Craig has it right

    Chanting “fiscal cliff” 4,000 times a day just wasn’t doing the trick.

    This nonsense of a sex scandal, oh how somethings just stay the same..Maybe if they keep most people’s eye’s off the “Grand Bargain” deal the President is just salivating to make, they can make their deal with the devil? Sadly, lots of mostly elderly woman will pay the price..The President seems destined to channel his inner Ronald Reagan, ugh, “spare me” as Baz would say..

  50. jaslf,
    I know, i’m not surprised at all either..I just made my deal with the devil and voted for President Obama. I guess i helped make this forth coming deal happen.. :x

  51. Tony -- I think we all did. we all were complacent to the treachery for fear of what Romney would bring.

  52. That there will be a grand bargain is probably not in doubt.
    How that bargain will shake out is defiantly a matter for conjecture.
    Obama was playing defense when the original ‘grand bargain’ was proposed. His situation as of Nov. 6th is decidedly different.
    Republicans could afford to walk away from the table when they thought their next negotiation was going to be with Mitt Rmoney. They went all in and Obama won the pot.
    Obama’s idea of a grand bargain post 2010 may be a good deal different than his concept post 2012.

    As of now republicans are playing a rather weak hand.

    Time will tell.

  53. Tony,

    A deal with the devil you know is a damn bit better than a deal with the devil you don’t.

    I know you swallowed hard, and with good reason.All the same it could have been worse. Romney might have won. As a country we had been there, done that, bought the tee shirt. It didn’t fit all that well. ;-)

    jace

  54. Tony,

    If Obama and democrats exhibited even a modicum of the passion and sense fairness that you possess, the grand bargain would be off the table now and forever.

    Good on you, shame on them. ;-)

  55. The Grand Bargain will need approval of the Senate. Who is going to stampede the Dem Senators over this bargain, trampling it in the mud?

    Does anyone here want to begin the campaign, Tony ?

  56. I’m p.o.d with patraeus. Let Justice do it’s thing.

    Y’know, when high level State, FBI, Sec Serv, Pentagon, NSA, or CIA officials want to embark on a dalliance, they should request a security check on the proposed romatic target, among all the other services.

    I might call it the Office for Vetting Mistresses -- OVM.

    Btw, ‘Social Liaison’ sounds like either Ombudsman or pimp. Or, maybe something in the vast space between those two. Party Planner? Marriage Broker? Welcome Wagon?

  57. Let the record reflect that I concur with the 11:47pm comment made by my distinguished colleague from the sovereign state of Arizona, Mr. Jace.

    Good on you, Tony.

  58. “OMG babawawa has on Nudi and Calista to talk about Petraeus — Ms Wawa needs a trip to the irony board” -- Ms KGC @ 1:28pm

    To weird. As if Harrison Ford really is the president he portrayed in movies. Calista Flockhart reviews the general.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    As Calistas go, you can tell which I favor.

  59. abc news is like watching Abbott and Costello.

    Hey abc ! Why not Abort and Calista?

  60. Good Morning Pat, all.

    Jace,
    You really make a lot of sense, you too X…
    I’m thankful always for your grounded thoughts..

  61. Texans-who-hate-godless-Europeans-but-want-our-map-to-look-like-theirs:

    “…urges the Lone Star State to leave the Union.”

    “We must contest every single inch of ground and delay the baby-murdering, tax-raising socialists at every opportunity. But in due time, the maggots will have eaten every morsel of flesh off of the rotting corpse of the Republic, and therein lies our opportunity… Why should Vermont and Texas live under the same government? Let each go her own way in peace, sign a free trade agreement among the states and we can avoid this gut-wrenching spectacle every four years.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/secission-petitions-filed-20-states-190210006.html

    Folks I’ve spoken with are still in disbelief that it went down the way it did, that it was not a landslide for Romney.

  62. Dex -- This Kelley woman seems to have a lot of, um, connections.

    The story keeps getting stranger, but MoJo’s insistence that the WH knew is just, well, he is scrambling for something to tie Obama to this.

    At the end of it all, the women will be blamed. After all, it was a she who got us kicked out of the Garden of Eden. We should all be wearing burquas and staying at home, otherwise, we just cause trouble for the men-folk.

    Running is a euphamism for Paula and Peaches, sittin’ in a tree???

    “Broadwell described Petraeus as a mentor, and she said they went on “a lot of runs” in Kabul while she was researching her book. She said the general’s nickname was “Peaches.”

    So, I guess this is not a civil liberties issue, either. MoJo can just calm down now. ( Jeez, it’s almost like he protesteth too much.)

    “…FBI determined…that there were no national security risks associated with Petraeus’s affair, they did discover sensitive information on Broadwell’s computer…”

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-11-12/fbi-agents-conduct-search-of-paula-broadwell-s-home-in-charlotte

    “The FBI agent under scrutiny had launched the investigation into harassing emails sent to Jill Kelley, a Petraeus family friend, but the agent was removed from the case over the summer because of his behavior, which included sending shirtless photos of himself to Kelley…”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/12/fbi-agent-behavior-questioned-in-probe-that-turned-up-petraeus-affair/#ixzz2C6erYHXc

    The take-away: Peaches Patreaus-- cuz it’s just that important.

    John Kerry as SOS? Not sure that’s the best choice. Why not Huntsman?

  63. So, would it be safe to assume that the good general now knows the real meaning of ‘women in combat’? ;-)

  64. the current case seems like keystone cops with the various agencies including congress tripping all over one another.
    far cry from the valerie plame episode. speaking of same, wonder if any of the ladies involved are really spooks in disguise.

  65. Would someone please tell Feinstein and King that airing these investigations to any microphone they can find is not in the best interest of US leadership. Making a huge deal of pecadillos and how they are investigated when they involve our CIA chief and top General in Afghanistan does not strengthen our ability to conduct war or spy on the rest of the world. It may make us feel a little morally superior, but the congressional oversight (or more properly concern about when congress should have been informed) IMHO should be done on the down low, not on cable news. The Chinese are laughing their billion asses off.

    I do not approve of the actions of Petraeus, but that is beside the point. We should never have known anything about emails or the FBI investigation into them. I really hate to admit it, but for once, i may agree with the way Cantor handled something. From a national security perspective do we really care about emails between a jealous lover and another woman, emails between the other woman and the commander of our troops in Afghanistan or how the FBI notified congress of its investigation? Shouldn’t the only thing we should care about is whether national security interests were compromised?

    But it will make a good book.

  66. The Kelley Family has hired Abby Lowell and the woman the tv series scandal is based on…

    The FBI searched Broadwells’ home to see if they could learn the source of the statement she made at a conference in Denver when she said the consulate in Benghazi was attacked because it was a CIA office and they had detained some Libyans and the attack was to free them.

  67. And if Feinstein and King are going to microphones because the appropriate spokespeople for the FBI & CIA are not briefing the oversight chairs, would someone clue them in that making Congress go to the press is not helping anything?

  68. casting call:

    robt duvall = petraeus
    angelina = broadwell
    j lo = kelley
    billy bob thornton = allen
    brad pitt = fbi friend
    tom cruse = cantor
    tommy lee jones = panetta
    sally fields = mrs. petraeus

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