Pope Watch

I’m not Catholic but I always enjoy a good old-fashioned Pope election. And this one might turn up something new, like a black Pope from Africa or at least a non-European.

Cardinal Peter Turkson

Cardinal Peter Turkson

Ghana’s Cardinal Peter Turkson was a hot prospect the last time, and he’s already being touted as a frontrunner if the church wants to renew itself. The online betting site, Paddy Power, puts Turkson just behind Canada’s Marc Quellet for best odds. Nigeria’s Cardinal Francis Arinze is also in the running.

Although no Americans are likely to be contenders, the U.S. will have more influence than ever. It’s number of cardinals in the Pope-electing conclave is now second only to Italy. The outgoing Pope added to the U.S. ranks in a move that Vatican watchers called a recognition that Catholicism is no longer a predominantly European religion.

46 thoughts on “Pope Watch

  1. I believe it was John Paul II who first said, “woo hoo.”

    Well, maybe the Pope is giving up being the Pope for Lent. Something big with his health, if he is giving 2-weeks notice. What happens if they can’t choose a new one before Easter mass?
    Six more weeks of winter? (I’m not Catholic, so I have no idea who fills the void.)

    This is a sorry state for our SEAL, and if you read the linked story at the bottom of this story, it’s absurd…Osamaland Amusement Park.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/02/11/bin-laden-seal-shooter-esquire/1909513/

  2. He’s not really from Ghana, he’s a socialist from Kenya, and a secret-Muslim, to boot…or so they’ll say.
    I don’t see that flying.

  3. popes will come and popes will go but there will always be only one Beethovan.

    --Ludwig v. Beethovan

    ok….he actually said princes….same thing…..

  4. Well, google the following:
    St. Malachy Pope predictions wiki

    And this one’s good, too…it says….

    “There has never been a Pope Peter II. Even though there is no specific prohibition against doing so, elected Popes have refrained from choosing this name. This is because of a tradition that only Saint Peter should have that honor.”

    However, there was once a Pope “Romanus,” so if they do choose Cardinal Turkson, whose given name is Peter, and if he chose to be Pope Romanus, would he not then be “Peter, The Roman”?

    From the previous link: “Peter the Roman, who will nourish the sheep in many tribulations; when they are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people. The end.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_name

  5. All of the sudden, I want s’mores. I think it’s the the thought of papal-vote-smoke; it’s making me think of campfire food.

  6. another maestro at the heistro:
    maestro no workee.

    “Never mind.”

    —Miss Emily LaTella

    it was just the same piece with karajan conductorizing.

  7. Just wondering how many non-Catholics followed the Pope’s orders when they were kids? We did the fish-Fridays during Lent, because my grandma said, the Pope said so. We were Methodists, so we wer, small “c” catholics, as in universal, not Catholics.

  8. blue, are you using the link button?

    testing: Comment Editing Tools

    seems to be working fine.

    just pasting urls into comments won’t create hyperlinks anymore. wordpress did away with that a while ago, auto-linking long and complicated urls in comments was screwing up page frames.

    only the link button creates hyperlinks

  9. at the end of that sat night live video, is that brendon coyle (aka bates of downtown abbey) just behind and to the right of hagel in the mock hearing audience?

  10. another question about the scratched snl skit: who and why scratched it?

    shades of what happened to helen thomas or the racist-izing of bill clinton during the ’08 primary or was nbc just worried about dissing the congress critters?

  11. LOL
    Thank you Pat,

    I can’t imagine why the censors stepped in, no doubt it was because of an over active imagination on their part.

    Jack

  12. Hey… I tried to find a youtube video of my all time favorite SNL skit… Father Guido Sarducci’s “Find the Pope in the Pizza Contest”… but apparently it doesn’t exist. This will have to do…

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/270004

  13. Ok… now to be completely serious… after all, I was brought up as a Catholic.

    I’d love it if the new Pope was an African… it would be absolutely revolutionary. But, IMO, the church just ain’t there yet… I’d love to be wrong, though.

  14. Ricky Gervais ‏@rickygervais

    Heard a rumour that the Pope was fired. DEFINITELY untrue. What the fuck could you possibly do to get fired from the catholic church?

  15. I’m a semi disinterested observer of Pope succession -- don’t know much about the secret rites and votes etc. Do know that the Catholic church is not growing in Europe but seems to be elsewhere (particularly the southern hemisphere) so a Pope from south of the equator shouldn’t shock anyone. What I heard on the radio during lunch is that the college of Cardinals is filled with a bunch of very conservative guys, so there probably won’t be a huge leap forward on issues people care about, like birth control, gay marriage, married or female priests, etc. But hell, how would I know whether all that is true? Or care? I’ve been preaching sexual doctrine to LP that runs directly counter to the church’s position since he started puberty. And his mother, who IS Catholic, approves o f my positions rather than the church’s.

  16. RR, I’d love it if the new Pope was a woman… that would be absolutely revolutionary. Not there yet?

  17. sturg, LOL. Mrs. P HATES Gervais, but she’d appreciate that one. I guess the old Congress adage -- dead girl or live boy -wouldn’t even do it.

  18. Carol… ROFL!

    Just soz ya know… I haven’t considered myself a Catholic since the age of 12. I did make my first communion. But I was never confirmed. In order to be confirmed, which is around the age of 14 or 15, you have to commit yourself to the church and kiss a Bishop’s ring. At that age, I’d have just as soon spit in a Bishop’s face.

    I may live a quiet life now… but I did earn that rebellious moniker… :smile:

  19. For the first time in 4-5years I have to disagree (somewhat) with Flatus on a military item.

    commieChina can’t project much power to over the sea, but neither can Japan, Philippines, or Viet Nam.

  20. When the rich wage war, it’s the poor who die.
    Jean-Paul Sartre

    When elephants fight, only the grass suffers.
    African proverb

  21. Ct, woman Pope? Guess not. Reckon we learned in 2008 that black man trumps white woman. Hey, I’ll take progress however we can get it in whatever order

  22. The battle between commie China and Japan will probaby be won by the best hacking team over the team with the most vulnerable computer systems.

    Given commieChina’s staffing power and tradition of paranoia, I give them the edge even if we weigh in. Unless . . .

    Who will Bangalore and Hyderabad side with ?

  23. So I’m looking at the new pictures from Mars, that bore hole looks like Utah . The ring of cuttings around the hole. That is one hell of a drill. And the pictures are crystal clear.

  24. The Coptic Church has a pope, Theodoros II. Maybe they’d be willing to share with the heretical Romans, in the name of unity, brotherly love, and whatnot.

    The Archbishops of Alexandria in Egypt called themselves popes long before the Bishops of Rome claimed the title. The earliest known use of the title pope is in a letter written by the then bishop of Rome, Dionysius (22 July 259 to 26 December 268), to Philemon:

    τοῦτον ἐγὼ τὸν κανόνα καὶ τὸν τύπον παρὰ τοῦ μακαρίου πάπα ἡμῶν Ἡρακλᾶ παρέλαβον.

    In translation :

    “I received this rule and ordinance from our blessed pope, Heraclas” [Archbishop of Alexandria (232-249)].

  25. Of all the things to watch in Cosmos, watching the Catholic Church chose the next head of the most long lived criminal gang in western history, isn’t my cup of tea.

  26. RR, when my mom married my stepfather she went back to being a Catholic. I think she was when she was a child. My stepfather was a devote Catholic. They were married for 30 years and he and I were very close. Mom died in 2003. As part of my grief process, I attended church often with my stepfather and then decided I would join the Catholic church. I started going to the classes with my SF as my sponsor. I was into the classes for a while when the lady doing the classes let it slip that she and many of the other church ladies were saying a Novena for GWB to win the election, his second term. That finally shocked me back into my senses again. I said, oops, I’ve made a big mistake here and never went back to the classes. The End. Back to the church of the big river. Phew.

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