While so much of the media coverage focused on how long KY GOP Sen. Rand Paul’s filibuster lasted, I found his point well taken — at the very least, our federal law enforcement officials are prevaricating the issue of using drones against American citizens — abroad and at home.
Maybe it’s a good idea for remote-control airborne weaponry to track down criminals. I don’t really know. But it seems like a big enough step that we should vigorously debate the proposition.
Whenever security tempts us to cut corners we need a time out to read the Bill of Rights.
Like Paul, I found the wiggly responses this week from Attorney General Eric Holder on this issue disturbing and suggestive. Our federal government seems to be headed down this path.
Technology again outpaces our definition of liberty. Paul is right to flag it.
Mo Elleithee, CNN:
“At least for the time being, tea party darling Sen. Rand Paul is the effective leader of the Republican Party. And that’s a pretty big deal.”
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While I may not agree with many of Rand Paul’s opinions, I admit my alignment with this one. Since 9/11/2001, I have been disturbed by the steady erosion of our Constitutional rights in the name of our ‘Global War on Terror’. What frightened me about GWB has not been eased by Obama.
Hold Chief Executives to task, make them answer the question. Say what you will about Paul but he put in the hours of the ‘old-time-way’ of Senate filibusters.
He certainly has my admiration on this point.
Well said, Mad Mustard. Where are the Dems and Libs who were grabbing their pitchforks and megaphones when a GOP prez was pulling this crap?
When I first heard rumblings of “The Patriot Act”, I thought it must be a good thing, then I recall how I recoiled in horror as I read what it was really about, which was attempting to override all privacy privileges of Americans. Drones seemed like a great idea, as they were targeting al-Queda strongholds. Then I saw the carnage they wreaked upon civilians, and I again was dismayed.
Twenty years ago, it was Waco, 42 years ago, Attica. If the USA government wants you dead, you gon’ DIE. If you were a suspicious ville leader in Vietnam 45 years ago, Bob Kerrey was going to slit your throat with a knife. If you were a follower of a sassy cult leader named David Koresh, doomed. If you were sick of conditions in an archaic New York prison in 1971, chances are you were going to taste Rockefeller lead, boom boom you’re dead. And for damn sure, if you get it in your head you are going to go join the Taliban, Uncle Sam is going to find you and drone your body until you are a pile of grease and bone fragments. And, if you blow the whistle on these American drone activities, Uncle Sam will stick you in Leavenworth alongside one Pfc. Bradley Manning,. doomed forever in an Army barracks prison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lENC5BgENoY
“I don’t have much stomach for executing one of our own.”
But he did it.
“Killing our own” is part of the American dream, it seems.
We’ve ALWAYS killed our own.
Once certain powers are given, they are almost impossible to take back.
The Niagara Falls Airforce Base (107th) was in danger of shutting down. Late last year it was announced that it would stay open, with a new mission: to pilot (remotely) drones, rumored to be MQ-9 Reapers. Congressional Reps, Senators, and State Reps all had an active part in securing this mission. This was bipartisan. Any question of morals brought into the conversation were quickly overridden with answers of jobs, jobs, jobs. Translation: Drone manufacturers donate very big checks. Bipartisan-ly.
BTW, in dronespeak, there is tracking, there are targets, there is successful termination, and collateral damage when things go awry. Clean, tidy and clever.
-ty head
and how are drones any different from missiles? other than size.
as for privacy: those security cameras on street corners and satellites googling earth aren’t there just for aesthetics. they’re looking at you.
wholeheartedly agree that patriot act is less than patriotic and makes mockery of that erstwhile virtue now so twisted beyond recognition.
folks, either this is the start of another bad sci-fi movie or we got stuff more important than drones and robot warriors to worry about:
Obama should not get a pass on any policies that continue or expand the unAmerican, unconstitutional policies embodied in the Patriot Act. Hint, if John McOld and Squeaky think it’s cool, be afraid, be very afraid.
If Rant Paul has a point, I think it was an accident. Hope he doesn’t fall on it.
Simply put the Patriot act is an abomination, as is Gitmo.
Both created in what was a trumped up climate of fear to protect us from threats both real and imagined, mostly the latter.The use of drones in any capacity, but most especially on Americans is the logical (illogical) progression of policies rooted in fear, and an admission that terrorists can strike anywhere anytime and there is precious little that we can do to stop them. In short that is why they are called TERRORISTS.
When the history of the Obama administration is written, it will be noted, and fairly so, that one of its great failures was the failure to push back on the erosion of civil liberties that was begun under his predecessor. That so called democrat/progressives were by their silence, complicit in this failure, will be a chapter in and of itself.
“As scrutiny and debate over the use of remotely piloted aircraft (RPA) by the American military increased last month, the Air Force reversed a policy of sharing the number of airstrikes launched from RPAs in Afghanistan and quietly scrubbed those statistics from previous releases kept on their website.”
Apparently someone somewhere was anticipating this discussion. Curious minds wonder who and why?
the govt seeks to control the peoples guns, and the peoples seek to control the govt’s drones.
Really?!
I had wondered who would become the Senate’s hypocrite in chief upon the retirement of John Kyle?
Judging from the evidence, John Cornyn will be a worthy successor.
In “The Exorcist” the older priest tells the younger one, “Don’t listen to the demon. He will mix truth with lies to confuse you.”
This is what sneaky right wing nuts, like Rand Paul do. They take ONE position, that isn’t crazy/evil, and they fool naive liberals into thinking, “He’s not that bad.”
Yes he is.
Forget this one issue and look at all the other positions he’s taken, which are, as I said, both crazy and evil.
rand paul has a point. That’s what all that goofy hair is for--so you don’t notice it.
what nash said, by the way, i agree. ron paul had a few good points also.
The Rand Paul show had two major points. First any Senator or group of Senators who want to bring a minority issue to the attention of the public should get up and make the noise in public and not stop talking until someone listens. Successful for not, the filibuster is the time honored way to alter the actions of politicians by giving the public insight into the alternatives.
This “Mister Smith Goes To Washington” aspect keeps government honest while the “hidden hold” perverts it into a negotiation of evils and stalemate.
Second, drones themselves remove the horrors of war and destruction of freedoms from public view. There is the famous Star Trek episode where citizens of two warring forces quietly report to killing booths as the two sides “cleanly” wipe out whole cities on computers … a strategy of no blood but even worse no victors. We don’t see nude girls running down a dirt robe to escape the burns of falling napalm. There isn’t even the technicolor pyrotechnics of Shock and awe. No movie theater shows burned out buildings and refugees fleeing the rubble.
Drones are so neat and if a little girl in one house over dies in the process … nobody really sees now do they?
http://www.ericidle.com/blog/
” I was seeking some kind of regular pattern and was wondering vaguely if there might not be seasons of the sun: spring when life emerged, summer, fall and then winter when extinctions occurred. In order to see if that might be remotely possible I wanted to know how many times the sun had been round the galaxy and nowhere could I find such a figure. So I made a very simple calculation. I divided the time of our solar circumnavigation of the Milky Way Galaxy, “We go round every two hundred million years,” by the estimated age of our sun. In those days 4.5 billion years was the accepted figure. I was shocked by the result. In a universe where extremely large numbers (millions of billions) were common the result of my simple maths was staggering. The number of times the sun has been round the Galaxy is only twenty-two and a half! That’s it. That’s all! I couldn’t believe it. I checked and rechecked my figures. 4,500,000,000 divided by 200,000,000 is approximately 22.5.”
--Eric Idle
He later checked this number with Nigel Calder, author of TIMESCALE and found it with a bit of an update on the age of the sun to be correct.
i repeat: how are drones any different from missiles? other than size.
and other than they are more accurate than missiles.
instead of that sweet “little girl in one house over” dying, several households full of little girls and boys die. but you’re right, Jamie, it’s usually easier to capture and record the missile shot and it’s mass destruction than to see or know about the drone kills. am not too fond of either method.
but then am not too fond of war period.
with a little more passion for emphasis
patd
I’m with you on not being fond of war. At least with the “big war” images, the horrors are more visible and likely to end the process sooner whereas the “up close and personal” can often continue under the radar for decades and as long as you aren’t on the personal side of things, barely worth the attention.
yep, and for that very reason we should reinstitute the dreaded draft with no exemptions for congress critters. they would be less likely to take us to war if they and their family had to go with us.
Sen. Rand Paul: My filibuster was just the beginning
aaarrrgghh
Where the hell were all the historians and people of Irish descent when the Republicans and then the Democrats were shouting, “We don’t need no damned habeas corpus!”
bbc goody for our friend bill w:
Pat, I think a better question is where on the scale of airborne weapons do drones fall? With, say mortars on one end of the scale and nuclear tipped ICBMs on the other. There’s one common factor -- they are all controlled by us.
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by Taylor Marsh
I’m with Taylor on this one. For the first time in months, I will not wake up at 3:30 AM facing a day that will not end until 9 PM. Tomorrow I will wake at the sane hour of 4:30 AM and still hit the sack at 9 PM. My diurnal clock will now return to normal not to be brutalized again until the coming Fall. For some reason I just don’t shift earlier well.
Arizona needs to do something right once in a while. Leaving the clocks alone may be that one occasion.
Our school district will be on Spring break all next week.
I am busy compiling a list of things that can be put off until Fall break.
Greetings from the desert.
Well said, Mad. There is an active discussion here on the border to use drones for looking for Mexicans and others bringing contraband to the US. Since we know the border patrol has the authority to shoot and kill crossers, what is to stop drone strikes using lethal weaponry?
I approved of Rant Paul’s revival of the traditional filibuster and to his point on drones. The rest; forget about it!
Paul forgot his history on filibustering. When Strom Thurmond filibustered the first civil rights act, he went to the floor of the Senate with a tube and large bottle to use when he needed to pee. Observers said that Paul’s filibuster ended when he had to go to the bathroom after just 12 hours. If he had studied Senate history he would have known Thurmond’s 24 hours and 16 minute record was assisted. Paul might still be talking if he could have rigged himself for the long haul.
See, there is humor in all of this political stuff, too!
Haven’t read the thread yet… we just got home about a half hour ago.
Holy shit Batman… did the weather channel get this one wrong. We got nothing up north. But we were supposed to get about 3-4 inches of snow here at home. We got a foot instead. Rick had to shovel out the door so we could get in. Now it’s at least 50 degrees and it feels like spring has sprung. The maple sap must be running like crazy.
I’m soooo glad to see my cats. I’ll catch up here later.
A new study from Oregon State and Harvard looking at the last 11,300 years, nothing in that record has ever been seen like the last 100 years. The chart with is paper is really pretty grim.
CBS News
AIR FORCE ERASES DRONE STRIKE DATA
by the way Al Neuharth (USA Today founder) sat in front of me on my flight yesterday and when he lowered his seat nearly into my lap i had to punch it with my knee a few times before he got the hint and moved it up some. just thought i’d share that with you
Craig,
You need to make sure your favored airline sees this way to turn all seats into first class http://www.psfk.com/2013/02/comfortable-economy-airline-seats.html
eprof, could be he was equipped with big boy pampers to help him piss away the 12 hrs, but couldn’t handle a bigger load… defecation probably what done him in, not urination.*
well maybe a bit of defamation too (in re ms fonda).
*that gooey goody he chomped on looked a lot like exlax … maybe someone spiked his stash.
I stole this from the comment section of another blog discusssing Maureen Dowd’s column about Cheney.
It is the comment of the day at least in my world.
but what about us copeless humans?
Jamie
All that does is let the airlines put more seats in and pack us in tighter. Besides , don’t mess with my carry on.
Jack
Steve Earle’s new music, pre-order today on i-Tunes, buy it April 16. GOOD stuff.
It sounds as if Louis C K will have something funny to say in April to all of us who have had it with over-hyped, dramatic, super emotional pathos descending to bathos coverage of everything: http://screenrant.com/louis-ck-comedy-special-oh-my-god-trailer-hbo/
Jack
It doesn’t mess with your carry on. You have your own personal compartment above the seat. It’s actually designed for fewer seats but greater efficiency and comfort.
“Oh c’mon xrepub, for mainstream media street cred taking on Ron Paul hardly takes guts” -- Trail Boss last thread.
If that were so, Craig, why did the rest of the msm wait until she asked the Q about his racism? If she had followed blister, tweety, hannify, Williams, or the tall dude, I’d agree, but the rest of the msm just wanted to talk about wrong pol’s Audit-the-Fed plan or his opposition to us forces outside the US.
I’ve been writing since I got here that the rip up Congress gave babybush carte blanche to kill anyone not already in custody in the name of eradicating al qaeda. The ripper SCOTUS affirmed.
Now come the rippers, whining and gnashing their teeth about “Obama killing” al qaeda linked American terrorists abroad without the benefit of due process of law. He who lived and profited by the War on Terror has no business whining about it now. Until the rippers who set up this violent law get the guts to amend it & to provide for fair trials for the enemy -- something they can’t do because it would raise the ire of their blood-thirsty constituents -- let them feel the cold sweaty terror that they too could be the target.
Rich roman senators who voted to proscribe their enemies were always surprised when they and their families were subsequently proscribed.
French revolutionaries who eagerly beheaded others were surprised when they found themselves and their families riding the tumbrils toward the guillotine.
rippers who were happy to slay anyone suspected of being sympathetic to the taliban and other terror groups should expect that the turn of republican terrorists will also come.
nash said earlier “Forget this one issue and look at all the other positions he’s taken, which are, as I said, both crazy and evil.” to which I would add with regard to senator rant the monkey theorem per wiki:
however current congress critters like said senator are more likely to perform this way (also from wiki)
When Runt Paul and Jon Stewart agree I say that’s a good thing
People are always complaining about not finding common ground.
As for Senator McCain — please retire soon and take your pet monkey with you
COTT HORTON: Well. And Article II of course meaning exactly what – does that mean that the commander-in-chief power overrides all, or does that mean that just the words “Article II” say that there is somewhere unlimited authority in the hands of the president of the United States?
MARCY WHEELER: Well, I mean, what the government, what the executive branch maintains – so this is written up in OLC opinions actually written by John Yoo but they’re still out there – they maintain that the president – and sort of within the scope of the AUMF, they say well Congress can’t limit that at all. They can’t tell him who’s included, who isn’t Al Qaeda. They can’t tell him how he’s going after Al Qaeda. They can’t limit that.
SCOTT HORTON: And so it’s just as simple as that, is that the Author– so you’re saying the Authorization to Use Military Force against the people what did the attack past back in 2001, the loophole is that they can define the enemy however they want. And that’s it. That’s all they need to say that they can use any of this unlimited right because that Authorization to Use Military Force would have covered the Marine Corps, the CIA or anybody else at the employ of the executive branch to do their bidding, right? And you’re saying this is the loophole that they’re driving a star destroyer through.
MARCY WHEELER: Well it’s a loophole in the AUMF, but in fact the president signed the memorandum of notification for counterterrorism the day before the AUMF was signed. He signed it on September 17, 2001. And that’s actually what first authorized torture, what authorizes targeted killings, what authorizes partnering with dictators in Syria and Libya, and that’s what is the primary authorization for a lot of this. And so when you see the president saying, “Well, the Constitution and the AUMF authorize this,” you know, which was signed first? Actually the Memorandum of Notification authorizing covert operation was signed before the AUMF. And so you got to imagine, and the general counsel of the CIA has as much as said this on the record, that for them it’s just the presidential authorization, that the AUMF for them is just gravy.
SCOTT HORTON: Right. Yeah, that’s like their extra backup argument, I see. And, well, in a way, they’re right, aren’t they? I mean, Washington did it. I mean he didn’t kill everyone involved in the Whiskey Rebellion, but he was about to kill them all if they hadn’t surrendered. And nobody authorized that.
MARCY WHEELER: Right. But I think – you know, and I think you can go back and you can say, well, you know, and you can also look at the times that the president has mobilized the military, you know, to integrate schools and stuff like that. So there are certainly those historical precedents, and I think what’s different in this case and where the administration is clearly overreaching even those prior precedents that we know of, is precisely that. That he’s operating in secret, that he’s not making clear who we’re at war against, that he’s not making clear the extent of which he would or could use this authority, and so that – and that’s I think one of the things that Paul has said quite well is that had we used the standard that’s being used in the war against terrorism in which people like Awlaki and Samir Khan were writing terrible things about the United States, but Samir Khan in particular was primarily writing against the United States, and there are cases of people in the United States who have been prosecuted for basically translating jihadist literature, and he said, and he’s right about this, “If we had used this standard during the Vietnam war, they could have used a Hellfire missile to take out Jane Fonda.”
SCOTT HORTON: Which, you know, probably a lot of Americans would have supported. It would have done a lot to help the antiwar movement in the last decade if she wasn’t around, if you ask me, but. Naww.
MARCY WHEELER: (laughs) Well, and the other thing he said, is he said, “Well, you know, and people – he’s like, “People once were really horrified by what happened at Kent State.”
SCOTT HORTON: Right.
MARCY WHEELER: “But no more.”
SCOTT HORTON: Or at Waco. Well, let’s not pretend that Janet Reno did the Waco massacre. That was Bill Clinton. Because Janet Reno doesn’t have any authority over the Army Delta Force, the Combat Applications Group Team B, that’s Bill Clinton’s private army. And they can’t machine gun and firebomb Americans to death without his say-so.
MARCY WHEELER: Right.
http://scotthorton.org/2013/03/06/3613-marcy-wheeler/
I think that R. Paul will always have the left and the right going crazy……
satan will make short work of dick cheney.
--bongo seville
if origins mean anything at all bush sr did waco.
Hello Solar,
I hope that your long absence here has been the result of work picking up.
Damn glad to have you back.
Satan would eat Dick Cheney, and then proceed to spit him right back out, that’s how nasty he is.
no, i beg to darfour…..satan will eat cheney and crap him out with the morning news.
That’s the way Satan rolls.
hello Jace,
Can’t say too much. Jack told me to shut up cos I talk too much…..
Here’s looking at you, kids……
http://bluescrab.blogspot.com/
Craig at post# 2: “Where are the Dems and Libs who were grabbing their pitchforks and megaphones when a GOP prez was pulling this crap?”
Well, I for one was predicting that it would come to this. And if the Armed Forces were to hellfire babybush, cheney, rumdumsfeld, frist and hastert, who invented this monsterouslaw, I wouldn’t shed a single tear for the lot of them them.
Solar,
You are like our own Solar flare, no telling when you will arrive , but when you do, you burn with a lot of light and fun and a fair amount of heat. We all know that.
Oh yeah, Solar just reminded me. Add john yoo to my 6:38pm list. Hell won’t be complete until yoo is there.
Sturg,
They say that we all have a look-a-like….nice pic.! Hey did hear about them watering down the friggin Budweiser?
I spent some time with the Gospel of Matthew today.
Made me feel kind of bad about myself.
I’m sorry for all the mean things I’ve said, except for the Dick Cheney comments. I hope to get some sort of dispensation for those. Remain confident that it will be forthcoming.
Carry on.
XR,
Hell doesn’t work overtime.
I prefer mini and microbrews. Summit makes a hoppy ale.
Schells make a pilsener so light on the hops that you taste the barley.
HA.! Jace,
My TM side-kick, Patd likes to introduce me to new hands just like that. She tells them : Solar aint, well we all know that she would never say aint…she tell them that im not around….but when I do show up…i would have both my pistolas out and shooting at everyone, make the whole town nervous, hey but thats just Solar,nothing to fret about…..love that Gal……
Solar,
Too True, Patd is very understanding of the various idiosyncratic souls that travel this trail.
XR,
Both those beers sound good? Haven’t got an extra in the fridg?
As for watered down Bud, it’s been around for years, they called it Bud-lite.
Cheryl is traveling with students today, don’t expect her back until tenish. I have decided to go all out for supper tonight and have a four course meal.
Toasted cheese sandwich, chips, a pickle, and a beer.
I have always been an advocate of ‘fine dining’.
… yumm.
Now that’s my idea of fine dining too. I also love ‘simple’ food. Enjoy, Jace.
Conventional (D.C.- based MSM) wisdom…
“Rand Paul has SOME good ideas.”
No, he doesn’t.
“McCain is a maverick.”
No, he isn’t.
Chloe,
Fine dining is directly proportional to the number of dishes that need to be washed. In this case almost none.
Four stars in my book.
“Rand Paul has SOME good ideas.”
Nash,
So did the serpent.
Some of Rand Paul’s other “good ideas”…
*Thinks it should be legal for a business to exclude black customers.
* Opposed to the Americans with Disabilities Act.
* Wants to get rid of the Federal Reserve System and end the regulation of banks.
* Wants to get rid of the Department of Education.
* Wants to privatize the Social Security system and get rid of Medicare.
* Wants to get rid of ALL health insurance, both government and private.
* Wants to eliminate federal income taxes.
* Thought the government was too hard on BP regarding the oil spill, saying “Accidents happen.”
* Voted for government shutdown, rather than raise the debt ceiling.
* Wants to cut food stamps by 30%
* Believes that fertilized eggs should have legal rights of citizens
*Thinks the children of undocumented workers, if they are born in the USA, are NOT citizens
*Thinks “terrorists” should be tried in military tribunals, not courts
* Opposes same sex marriage
* Opposed to ALL gun control legislation
One more thought…
Rand Paul is running for President.
This will cause all the MSM pundits to pronounce that Jeb Bush is now an “electable moderate.”
Of course, Jeb has already started to move to the right. By the time of the first primary he will have changed all of his positions 180 degrees.
And then the pundits will say, “He’s just doing that to win the primaries. He’ll move back to the middle for the general election.”
It worked for Romney, right?
Nash,
The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Rand is all over the map just like his pop.
Like a broken clock he is right about twice a day, but mostly you just want to say to him, “simmer down son, shut your mouth until you know what you are talking about.”
Jeb Bush, “I don’t remember what I said yesterday, but whatever it was I stand by it, until I don’t.”
Very Romneyesque
Poor Jeb. First his brother screwed him out of his birth right, and besmirched the family name, and now Marco is the GOP flavor of the day. Life aint fair, even when you have a silver spoon.
By 2016 he won’t be able to carry Florida.
Jeb just wrote a book, the first step to running for president. On CBS the other morning he was in “i’m not one of those crazies” mode.
Jack
Solar
You are such a delicate flower. Just one word from me and you shut up? lol
Jack
“Fine dining is directly proportional to the number of dishes that need to be washed.”
… yep, Jace.
I said I like simple food, but I should have added ‘easy’ food too.
“Jeb just wrote a book, the first step to running for president. On CBS the other morning he was in “i’m not one of those crazies” mode.”
Jack,
I’ll bet the Heritage Foundation, and the Club for Growth get tired of buying those books by the thousands.
Hell, they’ve still got all those Sarah Palin books to get rid of, no place to store a bunch of BUSH books.
Chloe,
When I’m really on a roll I don’t even pour the beer in a glass.
Yo Soy Chicano
Texas Tornados -- Soy de San Luis
Frankie Yankovic -- Just Because
Lol @ Liberal character assassins. God forbid anyone with a divergent opinion resonates with the public consciousness.
Johnny Billy Goat -- Boozoo Chavis
“Frankie Yankovic — Just Because”
What did people who set Angelina Jolie publicity pictures to polka music do with themselves before Youtube? Hm, I wonder.
I’ve listen to the accordion in 4 different languages so far.
French, Spanish Polish and English
Flying Bulgar Klezmer Band
And Yiddish
Thats right. U hurt my feelings…..Im sensitive.!
Your Lordship, Good question but I’ve seen worse.
The music was clean not a microphone stuck up next to the speaker. There were several of those too.
Jack
Cant be in a bad mood when you hear the accordion….
So Solar, tell us what you doin’ besides keeping Judy happy?
Jack
Welll Mr. Jack….thats a full time job in its self….but I do get out and do a little work, when it comes across my desk.
Been Playing General Contractor….and subbing out (hey is that out-sourcing?) most of it…..going to try different banks this year….maybe get lucky for a loan on building some homes…..
Been reading a lot, just started transcendental meditation not too long ago…..
Oh, and did I tell U that Im sensitive?
Rand Paul has 2 points , one the top on his head and the other is his index finger.
This was done for the real wingers . If one is a part of that right wing gun nut culture, we do want Obama flying drones over our fortress compounds do we ?
Yeah, I heard tell and I believed too. That wasn’t me snickerin’ that was one of them other people back there.
Good to hear you have a little work now and then. Keeps a body out of trouble.
Mostly the same for me, working on a house, not too fast, just me and playing in the hood. Making sure the wife is happy.
speaking of which, I think it is bed time. Take care
Later Jack
I will not trade Federal Government for local “War Lords”.
We’ve seen the fruits of that in South Central Asia.
And Selma, Alabama.
Let Rand Paul write the new drone law, and let him try and pass it.
Just so you all know , the carbon we have already dug-up, and dumped back into our thin gas shell has opened the door back to a time when all these fossil fuels were laid down in the rocks.
I looked-up the age of the shale gas in Penn……… 320 million years old. Oil from Odessa, Texas comes 70 million years later.
No creature on Earth has ever done this,……. removed the stored carbon from the entire history of the Earth, and dumped it back into the atmosphere, all over the world all at once.
In a geologic nano second .
The Earth has never conducted such an experiment. So this one is on us.
If one still doubts the effects of CO2 , the USAF could not have made heat seeking missiles, without understanding that CO2 absorbs, and re-emits heat energy.
When they began the building of this weapon, the CO2 blinded the heat source. Because of CO2 re-radiation, the heat blinded the first experiments.
I’m sorry that I missed the exciting character assassination. Would you please do it again so I can watch ?
Oh. snd Mrs. LaFarge wants to see it too. She says it helps her to knit.
It was the best of times; it was the worst of times.
It was neither here nor there.
rant pol also wants to decriminalize marijuana use and kidnapping, two activities he enjoyed during his time at the Southern Baptist Convention’s Baylor U.
Very religious is rant pol. To save the University and the Baptists embarassment, pol didn’t turn himself in for his crimes. That just shows how considerate he is.
Bedtime. G’nite all.
When I was 22 and living in a small rural apartment, friends would come over for my tasty, perfect cheese omelets. I recall using an electric skillet and simple fillings, and a combination of cheeses including colby and even a little Velveeta. In those days I made a mean jelly omelet for myself.
I was The Omelet King.
Then…I lost it…my omelets began to burn, they began to be served runny in the center. Steps taken to rectify my newly-found incompetence made it worse. Try as I may, I kept cooking omelets a pig would not touch, they were so nasty looking. My pals would stop by and say they were going to the diner, come along, they said, freeing me of my lost art. I have never been able to cook another omelet like I did when I was a young man. Yesterday I tried…ended up scrambling the whole mess and burning that, even, just a little, and I still ate it, but it’s a shame.
Toasted cheese sandwiches are different. I have always made good ones, followed by inedible sandwiches that had to go into the garbage. There is no consistency. So many ways to ruin a grilled cheese! Butter the bread on both sides, add cheese? Sort of fry the cheese sandwich in a little olive oil? High temp to scorch the bread a little, or cook slowly in a non-stick dry pan over low temps? Such challenges!
So far my pancake and waffle making is still OK…it is hard to mess up a recipe out of a box, add water, cook. (Hint: top off with real butter…I quit using that damnable margarine altogether)
“Believes that fertilized eggs should have legal rights of citizens” -- Mr. 2.5 @ 8:18pm.
Ya, he wants them to serve on juries.
So, why don’t corporations serve on juries ? They’re citizens too.
G’nite.
The real problem with grilled cheese sandwiches is that they are invariably infested with cheese.
G’nite.
Jace,
Whenever I pour myself a brew, I’ll pour one for you, too.
G’nite.
Now, we can kill anyone who walks on the Earth. Just because we understand heat, and how it works.
I seems like Stephen Colbert is writing Obama’s jokes. Hm, I wonder.
“I’m sorry that I missed the exciting character assassination.”
Oh, you…
I have friends tonight watching cracks in the ice , and worrying , all because we can see what the USAF learned with their heat experiments.
Their fear -
The Arctic will melt faster than we have ever seen .
Sadly the answer is yes. Then the methane bomb explodes.
Then the Antarctic begins to really melt . All of this happens very fast. In just a few 100 years.
Will life go on ? Yes it will . Do we make it ? Only in very small groups in a very shattered world.
Our guns will do little help to us. Because the things to shoot will crash as well.
Billions of dollars of ammo being buried in the ground. No one will ever gig it up.
All of this comes in the next 20 years. Then it gets really bad.
3C degrees above today. This is nearly 3 times more than the Earth has seen in 125,00 years.