Who’s On Your Enemies List?

What’s all this fuss about Hillary Clinton aides keeping a list of who was naughty and nice to her in the 2008 campaign?

Who doesn’t keep such a list? Those who’ve done us wrong are never far from mind.

I’ve got my own enemies list. Like the two people on a slightly drizzly day last week who knocked me in the head with their damned huge umbrellas. Such instruments of destruction on narrow sidewalks should be outlawed. For that matter, umbrellas themselves are an abomination. Wear a hat. Or stay inside. Get a little wet. So what. If we raised an umbrella in the shower there’d be no point to the matter.

Also on my list: The dang fools in the grocery counter line who wait until all of their items have been registered to swipe their credit cards in the machine and slog through the screen prompts, adding at least a dozen minutes to a process that could have been completed before their groceries were bagged.

Don’t get me started on the jerks behind me in traffic who dart around and block my escape when the driver just ahead stops to make a turn.

Or how about those automated phone voices who never give you an option to talk to a real person?

If the IRS worked for me, I’d audit them all. Revenge is best served cold? Hell no, I’d put it in the microwave and walk away.

You go Hillary. Take names and kick ass.

106 thoughts on “Who’s On Your Enemies List?”

  1. I no longer have enemies lists. Leaving politics surely helped in that realm. Leaving Florida also helped me to unwind from the constant irritation caused by people determined to change the unique Florida biota to “Up North” through their selfish ignorance.

    And, when we moved to SC, we chose a university town in which to live and an exurban neighborhood with a healthy demographic mix.

    So, screw ’em, now I’m old enough to just irritate others.

  2. So, screw ‘em, now I’m old enough to just irritate others.



    Although I do keep an enemies list and given the opportunity and means I would do what I could to crush them. I don’t think however I would endanger the office holder

    I’m more into trickster behavior. One of the greatest moments — my candidate should have been on the endorsement card for the local labor council and was “accidentally left off” so we stole the cards and stamped her name on them and nicely returned them

  3. On my daily enemies list: people who do not know how to merge. .and those who get in elevators before people get out arghhhhhhhhhh

  4. Katherine Graham Cracker, amen to that

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  5. My grocery enemies list includes the person with an entire cart filled beyond capacity who sees me headed for the cash with TWO friggin items and runs a race to get ahead of me.. AND forgets one item, wanders away while I stand there with my milk and jar of peanut butter.

    Also on my list — bosses and teachers who insist on employees-students having doctors notes for absences. If I’ve got the flu, the last thing my doctor wants is ME in his-her waiting room coughing and breathing over all his-her other patients.

    I’m not nearly done, but it’ll do for now. Go Hillary!

  6. White automobiles. I’m sorry but everyone who drives a white car is trying to kill you. Not sure what the connection is between the person and the purchase, but it is true … white cars are the engines of death.

  7. Now that I’ve gotten that off my chest, there are still people from that wretched DNC meeting who screwed Hillary over in 2008 with the rush to Obama that are still in my bad graces. Instead of the sensible Clinton/Obama ticket they set us up for eight years of aggravation that could have been avoided with Obama just now being ready to take over for another eight years.

  8. Jamie, I think perhaps the key wretch was from SC. That individual’s entire family has been purged from SC Dem politics. I will neither search for nor utter his name.

  9. Jamie,

    that clinton/obama mention got me to thinking up woulda been scenarios such as the “war against obesity” waged by the 1st laddie in cahoots with the 2nd lady (or whatever a vp’s spouse is called).

  10. I’m with you, Jamie! I don’t think half of whats gone on in Congress would have happened if Hillary had been Pres. Obama has frustrated everyone with his stand on trying to “work” with the Republicans, then giving in to their demands.. Hillary would have used the Bully Pulpit more effectively..

  11. speaking of first ladies
    from bbc

    Mr Hollande was speaking at his first news conference since the allegations in the magazine Closer last week.

    He said he would clarify whether Valerie Trierweiler was still first lady before a February trip to the US.

  12. also from above link

    His answer was concise and not especially revealing. Yes, he was passing a difficult moment in his private life. And yes, there would be a decision about the status of Valerie Trierweiler in advance of his planned visit to Washington next month.

    But for the rest, this was a private matter – and therefore he was not ready to say any more.

    The French press accepts this. It is perhaps to its credit that it agrees that private matters should remain just that.

  13. Here’s my current thinking on the Christie thing
    I do not believe his senior staff would act without his knowledge unless they had a prior agreement to not tell him about certain things to give him the ability to say he didn’t know.

    Given what we’ve seen of him in action. I do not believe that ANYONE around him would act without his knowledge and agreement

  14. So the goops using the upstanding citizen Tudy Juliannie are using Christie as just another way to attack Obama

    Not a peep about former Gov future felon Bob McDonald, finally facing indictment, from our friends at” Nonews we wouldnt even know news if we saw it in person”

    The morning crew is going straight to hell for all the lies they’ve told. The others are tools of Satan

  15. The Koch brothers should be on everyone’s enemies list They are trying to destroy environmental regulation.

    They have a lot of money and they hire clever people. They have been using an oyster farm owned by selfish greedy people to do just that

    This isn’t a story about a little guy being over run by the feds This is a story about a guy who didn’t like the choice he made (bought the oyster farm knowing the lease would not be renewed) who hooked up with the most disgusting people in the world.

    They have been denied three times at the appellate level so now they are going to supreme court entirely paid for by the Kochs

    And for all the stupid people supporting them because they don’t know the full story
    wait til the Kochs set up some disgusting plant next to your organic dairy and no one helps you

  16. Flatus,

    Leaving politics and the state were very helpful for reducing a lot of hate issues relating to politics and who I am. Along with a big reduction in the number of letters I got by someone(s) who would carefully cut out letters from newspapers, magazines and handouts and make death threats. The only problem was they were sent to my post office box thereby making the things keepsakes instead of fear makers. The threats under the windshield did get my attention.

    Now I enjoy a life of anonymity, especially going to restaurants. I feel for all the famous people who get hassled when they are out. Most of it is of honest and good natured, but it is still a pain when you are trying to enjoy dinner with a friend. I always warned people that someone might come up to say “HI”, and there were reporters wanting to ask questions during the campaigns. For people who were gay and not out that warning was important because they might be outed.

  17. Forget Iowa, Clinton’s Foreign Policy Will Collide with Progressives
    by Taylor Marsh

    “IN THE Democratic primary for 2016, progressives want an alternative to Hillary Clinton, but Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer isn’t their idea of the perfect candidate. He’s making noise in Iowa, which is getting some headlines, even if the current squawking out of the first caucus state is more about Iowans than it is about Hillary. The focus of Michael Crowley’s piece about Clinton as secretary of state is more relevant.”

  18. What a delightful field of petty and vindictive candidates from which we’ll have to choose in a couple of years time! So much for, “hanging together, or hanging separately”.


  19. …maybe the aides were going to make an excel spreadsheet of HRC’s political accomplishments, but couldn’t fill enough fields to warrant a whole file, so they made an “enemies” list, instead. Hey-Oh!

  20. Ok, that’s all I got, but I’ve still got “it”! Oh, yeah.

    So, I’m on season 2 episode 8, and I just have a feeling that Matthew and “Lady” Mary will have a long, happy life together. Such a looonnnng, happy life. No spoilers, please.

    …back to the ether, from whence I came!

  21. 😈 It seems I hate some aspects of weather the most. Huge banks of snow melt a little in the sun, get the walkways wet, sunset comes, ice again, I can’t properly walk the dogs without fear of falling. I also have love-hate relationship with cars in general; my older van conked out on me last night when I was night-driving.
    I used to hate this snarly post office window clerk, but he retired. I left my big list in the workplace when I retired.

  22. Iggy so glad to see you.

    I see Robert Gates is wearing a cervical collar while doing interviews –probably to protect him from the whiplash of his bullshit statements

  23. on newshour last night

    JUDY WOODRUFF: You spent most of your career working in intelligence.

    And, of course, there’s been a lot of criticism at home and abroad over the National Security Agency’s surveillance practices, especially since the Edward Snowden revelations. Do you think that the NSA in many of its programs and practices has gone too far?

    ROBERT GATES: The question is whether NSA developed capabilities and applied those capabilities that went beyond the guidelines or the left and right curves, if you will, that the president and the Congress expected and were briefed on.

    And that’s why I think that the White House review and the congressional review are so important. And if the program did go beyond those guidelines, did go beyond those limits, to get it back within those limits and if, in fact, there were people who knowingly went beyond what the president had approved, that they be held accountable.

    JUDY WOODRUFF: How much damage do you think these revelations have done? And do you think Snowden is a traitor or a hero?

    ROBERT GATES: I think that the revelations have done a lot of damage.

    They — it sounds like they have the potential to do a lot more. I think he is a traitor. You know, we built — we spent 40 years building institutions of oversight for intelligence since the mid-1970s in the Congress and the executive branch and in the judiciary.

    There are multiple avenues for people who believe that the rules are being broken or that the law is being broken to pursue in order to bring those problems to authorities who can evaluate whether or not somebody is breaking the law in the intelligence community.

    And for a 29-year-old basically to take it upon himself to ignore all of the institutions that have been built up by Republicans and Democrats in Washington over the last 40 years, I think, is an extraordinary act of hubris. And then to flee to the protection of that notorious protector of human rights and privacy and civil liberties, Vladimir Putin, I think, speaks volumes.

    If he truly is as highly motivated and as idealistic as he says, then he should come home and face the music, much as earlier whistle-blowers like Daniel Ellsberg and others did.

  24. from daily beast re

    …. Verizon, AT&T, Time Warner Cable or whoever provides your Internet connection can now block, slow or otherwise mess with websites, apps and other services.
    The silver lining is that there’s nothing in the court’s decision that prevents the FCC from reversing its earlier misguided decisions and treating broadband under the law as the “telecommunications service” it so obviously is.

    Well, there’s nothing stopping the FCC but a lack of political will and the lobbying might of the telecom industry (which spends more to influence Washington than anybody outside the drug companies).

    But both Tuesday’s decision and a prior decision by the Supreme Court in the 2005 Brand X case clearly establish that the FCC must “reclassify broadband” if it wishes to have any lasting ability to prohibit ISPs from blocking websites or discriminating against apps.

  25. Unfortunately, the first on my enemy list is my ex-husband. I hope he stays in Mexico. His son changed his last name that is how much distance the ex-family is keeping from him. I was pursued, wrongly, by collectors ten years after the divorce. It was how I made a friend of an AG investigator. She taught me how to deal with the predatory…even if they are wrong in their hounding. Collections ‘R Us…and my credit is good, thank you.

  26. Gates and his collar are now on Fox and Steve Doocey spent five minutes telling gates what he had written and then Gates corrected him and pointed out many of the same problems happened in the Shrub administration
    Doocey practically said whatever

    Now they are showing clips of Harry Reid and asking Gates to comment…

    no wonder he needs that collar

  27. Iggy… good to see you surface… now we need to find WhskyJack.

    My enemies list includes all telemarkerters and all political callers… especially during the presidential primary season.

    I’m not into coronations… I hope lots of different people run for prez on both sides of the aisle. And yes, I know it means our phone will ring, ring, ring before the NH primary… sigh…

  28. Renee

    I’m around, just to busy to engage in serious commenting.

    Here is something to enjoy
    back to work


  29. patd,

    I agree with Dr Gates. Adding, once again, that the contracting-out of our security vetting system has failed us. Mr Snowden should never have been allowed to be put in a position where he would ultimately be called a traitor. In that sense, we failed him.

  30. thanks, jack. good to see you back.

    for those who couldn’t make out the words, cnn graciously provided some of them:

    Singing to the tune of Springsteen’s classic “Born to Run,” Fallon kicked off the song dressed up as the legendary rockstar.

    “In the day we sweated out on the streets stuck in traffic on the GWB / they shut down the toll booths of glory cuz we didn’t endorse Christie,” Fallon sang, strumming his guitar.

    A couple lyrics later: “Maybe this bridgegate was just payback / It’s a bit** slap to state Democrats / We gotta get out while we can.”

    Then he hit the chorus: “We’re stuck in Governor Chris Christie’s Fort Lee, New Jersey traffic jam.”

    Emerging from backstage, the New Jersey born-and-bred Springsteen joined Fallon, dressed in the same outfit.

    “Governor, let me in, I want to be your friend, there’ll be no partisan divisions / let me wrap my legs round your mighty ribs, relieve your stressful condition,” he sang. “Man I really gotta take a leak, but I can’t / I’m stuck in Governor Chris Christie’s Fort Lee, New Jersey traffic jam.”

    Fallon and Springsteen also took a shot at Christie’s nearly two-hour press conference last week, in which he announced he fired two of his top aides and said he was never involved or had any knowledge of the plot to close access lanes to the George Washington Bridge.

    “Highway’s jammed with pissed off drivers with no place left to go, and the press conference went on and on,” Fallon sang.

    Springsteen jumped in: “It was longer than one of my own damn shows.”

  31. New Twitter Meme. Feel free to create your own:

    GOP: We can’t date if:

    you think the deficit went down under Obama. I don’t care what your stupid “graphs” say, it’s not possible.

    you don’t want to watch Reagan/Rand porn. Because… who wouldn’t want that? Come on. Seriously.

    you don’t realize that Obamacare is totally just the liberals’ way to distract from Benghazi. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

    you think Jesus wasn’t obsessed with homosexuality and tax rates. He TOTALLY WAS. It’s in the Bible somewhere…

    you’re gonna cry “racism” just because someone says black people seem lazy. “racism” is a hurtful word, you know…

    you think only science should be taught in science class. THAT’S BIGOTED!

    you’re all uptight about laws that require doctors to force 10″ ultrasound “wands” up inside you. STOP nagging.

  32. I am not a fan of keeping enemy lists. It is petty and beneath the office to which she sought. I have the same problem with Governor Chris Christie. You cannot act like this, when you wish to govern over 300 million Americans and the laws that govern them.

  33. Enemies list? I don’t have one.

    I like everyone.

    Except people who have enemies lists.

    They should all be rounded up and placed in “re-education” camps.

  34. For goodness sake, Nash, where’ve you been? It’s too cold for you to be out lobstering.

  35. Heyyy, Reneeee, spark ’em up! Your state legislature just made possessing 1 oz of pot legal!

  36. jaslf,

    who dubbed them enemies? was this a term used by the candidate, the staff or the media (in order to spice up the story)? isn’t it reasonable whether one is running a campaign, trying to persuade colleagues, managing and marketing to research opposing opinions and to weigh where strengths or weaknesses are? makes sense to identify folks who you can call on and folks who are otherwise taken so not to waste precious time and money as well as emotions and mental health.

  37. haha.. sorry Renee. Never thought you had to pass a vote to debate something. :)

  38. Hey Craig, Lot’s of news and reports from the Hill !! Any going to make the blog?

    How about a head liner….
    Mitt did not deserve the election as he did not stand up to Candy with her inappropriate comment

  39. How about no headline because Mittens lost because a majority of Americans did not vote for a rich a–hole with no understanding of how 99% of Americans live

    Only the delusional who don’t understand polls or evolution thought Romney was going to win

    Here’s a headline the goops have a weak field for 2016 Their choices are a classic bully, a new age bully, a man who hates women, an exorcist and number of other losers. Bring back Tom Tancredo
    his kind of hate might be back in style and of course there is always Jeb Bush the man who ripped off Florida’s teachers pension for Lehman Bros how does Jeb explain that commission?

  40. from politico

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein says she once found a drone peeking into the window of her home — the kind of cautionary tale she wants lawmakers to consider as they look at allowing commercial drone use.
    She singled out drones used by the government as needing close scrutiny and recommended a search warrant requirement.

    Feinstein said she is working on legislation with the Commerce Committee and urged senators to move swiftly to create “strong, binding enforceable privacy policies that govern drone operations … before the technology is upon us.”

    hmmm, m’lady di must have had one too many to be seeing a drone that close-up… “inches from her face”? so she exaggerated a little. she does have a point tho’…

  41. latest poll on chris from cnn

    The poll indicates that 44% of the public believes Christie is mostly telling the truth, with one in three saying he’s not and nearly a quarter unsure.

    Sixty-nine percent of those questioned say the controversy hasn’t changed their opinion of Christie with 18% saying the scandal’s made them like Christie less, with just 5% saying they now like him more.

    At last Thursday’s news conference, Christie declared that “I am not a bully,” in response to questions about his brash style of politics. Nearly half of those polled say Christie comes across as a “strong leader,” with a quarter describing him as a “bully.”

    More than seven in 10 say they know a lot, or some, about the controversy.

    2016 impact

    The poll indicates that Christie’s lost ground to Clinton in a possible 2016 matchup.

    Christie trails the former Secretary of State by 13 percentage points. He was only down 3 points last month. And the survey suggests that Christie’s small advantage over other possible contenders for the GOP nomination has shrunk in the past month.

  42. Should an authority figure be held accountable if they knew this child in Texas (or any school threat) might take deadly action, And they do nothing?

  43. mr. pong, so good to see you back in the ‘hood.

    what do you mean by “And they do nothing”? assuming the school is aware of certain proclivity or threat is a warning to the parents of the child something or nothing? should state child protection agencies or the police be called? at what point is it okay for the school to prohibit such a student from school grounds?

  44. this accountability issue can also be brought up in cases where family become aware or suspect mental instability (including Alzheimer’s) in their loved one and do not take away the car keys or remove firearms or anything in the home that may be a danger to them or others.

  45. Obama Steps in to Disarm Chuck Grassley’s Obamacare Bomb
    by Taylor Marsh

    It didn’t have to be this way, but since it is, thanks to Sen. Chuck Grassley’s prominent position on the Senate Finance Committee, all the anti-Obamacare hysteria is being inflated with a lot of oxygen that is aiding Republicans in their defund Obamacare squealing they intend to ride into the 2014 elections.

    The media is lying to the public because they actually don’t know what they’re talking about and don’t seem to care enough to get educated. Democrats won’t put the blame squarely where it belongs, on Republican machinations started by Chuck Grassley, so more people are becoming confused about ACA, something that long ago reached its apex.

    This is all in the Republican planning, but even after all these years the Democrats still can’t make a cohesive case for universal health care when it’s attacked that is easily understood.

  46. Ping Pong,

    Greetings, Ping! I trust you are well and are in warmer climes.

    My daughter, Sue, has been in executive positions with the Boys and Girls organizations and Communities in Schools (CiS). This year, not being thrilled by the results being achieved in one school district, she has gone “back to school” as the CiS leader in a Columbia middle school.

    She works directly with struggling children who are referred by the teaching staff, psychologist, assistant principals. In turn, Sue will figure out what the problems really are by engaging in home visits, finding tutors for the kids, making sure the children have food and clothing, helping them through homework, being their advocate with teachers and administrators, and generally, loving them.

    She has gone to the leadership at Fort Jackson securing “volunteer” tutors to work with the kids and be their mentors.

    Tying things together, her school, seems to have all the resources in place to prevent, if not identify, someone from going over the edge. Clearly, it is not a single person’s involvement. And, at Sue’s school, there is always the 27-yo resource officer who gets along well with kids and staff, alike.

  47. “The Department of Defense announced today the death a soldier who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.

    Sgt. Daniel T. Lee, 28, of Crossville, Tenn., died Jan. 15, in Parwan Province, Afghanistan, from wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his unit with small arms fire during combat operations.

    He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 3rd Special Forces Group (Airborne), Fort Bragg, N.C.”

  48. It’s entirely possible Senator Feinstein saw a drone outside her window. She has a house in wine country and many vineyard managers are using them to scare birds

    There are a lot drones in commercial use in California

  49. Where is the accountability for “every child in public school left behind”

    Still waiting for Shrub to apologize for the mess and lies in Iraq

    No gooper has any standing when calling for accountability

    GOP grand old petulance

  50. This morning’s Journal has a major Front Page story on the fleecing of (mostly) young soldiers and their families by banks catering to the military.

    Really, if the article is accurate, and I have no reason to believe it isn’t, we should all be furious at the individuals responsible for this despicable practice.

    Well done to the WSJ.

  51. from salon
    Time magazine kicks off what promises to be two years of stupid magazine covers about HRC and 2016

    from huffpo

    Isn’t there any way to discuss female power without resorting to stiletto metaphors and flailing, helpless dudes? For the love of all things good, can’t we be a little more imaginative next time we try to represent a powerful woman? Let’s leave the man-crushing, kitten heels behind. If we don’t, it’s going to be a very long road to 2016.

  52. Who Can Stop Hillary? It’s Not Chris Christie
    by Taylor Marsh

    So, the truth is that only Hillary can stop the possibility of making history for Democrats, this nation and women.

    For a woman who is always talking about women and our responsibility to keep working for each other and the world, to bow out of seeking the presidency, especially when the entire Democratic party is waiting for her to lead, it would be a breach of duty, an abdication of an opportunity that American women have waited to see for over two centuries. I don’t see this happening.

    The trick is to stay out of the limelight until the very last minute. The spotlight will be waiting when she walks into it and it’s looking very unlikely that Chris Christie will be anywhere in sight.

  53. How the media created Chris Christie
    He never was a scandal-free moderate, but mainstream pundits had to invent one to ignore unrelenting GOP extremism

    Mark Halperin is, as always, a good example. Now, to be fair to Halperin, the biggest news he and John Heilemann broke in their “Game Change” sequel had to do with the Romney team’s misgivings about Christie as a running mate in 2012. They weren’t just about his temperament, as in Christie’s self-promoting loose cannon, though there was some of that. They were ethical, going back to investigations he endured into abuse of power as well as overspending back when he was U.S. attorney. It was fascinating reading.

    Yet Halperin immediately praised Christie’s Thursday press conference, otherwise known as his two-hour pity party, as a “virtuoso” performance. And on Sunday Halperin Tweeted:

    Best ’16 political news for @GovChristie : no one else in the field is strong/rising or had a great ’13. He remains as strong as anyone else

    — Mark Halperin (@MarkHalperin) January 12, 2014

  54. sturgeone,

    Christ-a-mighty, it’s late, sturge, I thought you typed Joe Camel.
    We had some kind of freak snow blizzard here. We were supposed to get light flurries, but it’s a damn mess with heavy wet snow everywhere, and driving and walking are slip-slidin’ challenges. The snowplows are making my dogs very upset…extra-loud today for some reason.

  55. So Oprah is whining because she wasn’t nominated…doesn’t the academy know she can buy a $30k purse

    Why doesn’t she just paint herself international orange and stand in the middle of the street

  56. Katherine Graham Cracker: paint herself international orange

    It was when we were stationed in the Canal Zone that Kumcho finally decided to learn to drive. I tried fitting her in the driver’s seat of my car, but even with pillows behind her and styrofoam blocks on the pedals, it was clear that it wasn’t going to work.

    Then, a couple of days later, a captain from Puerto Rico said he was selling his Daf 44, a two-cylinder belt-drive automatic transmission four-seat car from the Netherlands. I saw it. It was about the size of a small Fiat, had only two pedals, the seat adjusted perfectly, and it ran like a top.


    On the way home, I stopped by the PX and picked up four big cans of Rustoleum International Orange. As soon as Kumcho finished cooing over her new beauty, she and I masked over the car and proceeded to transform its invisible beige to the most brilliant International Orange you ever saw.

    She obtained her learner’s permit, we hired a professional instructor, and within a month she had her license.

    Seeing her, the two girls, and Faden the dachshund, driving down the street was truly a sight.

  57. Flatus….
    I LOVE your stories about Kumcho… the one above was particularly good… :smile:

  58. Flatus, loved the story about the car. In response to the WSJ piece on predatory practices towards military families, Holly Patraeus visitied Ft. Bliss in El Paso last year. That is her job to help educate military families and alert them to sleazy financial pratices. I do not know if she still heads the office, but she was working with families in the field. In Texas, it is all about that pay day loan, car title loan.

  59. BW:

    There’s a long history of businesses exploiting military members, especially the youngest, most naïve kids who just got out of boot camp.

    Every major military base in the USA is surrounded by bars, pawn shops, loan companies, used car lots, etc. High prices, poor product quality, and fraudulent practices are typical.

  60. from raw story video of maher interview with greenwald

    Bill Maher acknowledged his respect for former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden during Real Time‘s return episode on Friday, while comparing him to former Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) during an interview with journalist Glenn Greenwald.

    “I agree with what he says, I nod along,” Maher said. “And then he says something totally batsh*t.”
    “What I said is, every time he opens his mouth, he always says something f*cking nuts. When he says, ‘They know every friend you’ve ever discussed something with,’ we’ll just have to agree to disagree on what’s f*cking nuts.”

  61. sorry to bring up the above irrelevant subject of privacy, but it brought up an item on the enemies list for me.
    just got an email out of the blue from target (an establishment at which i have not shopped for months prior to the announced hack job) warning me of possible credit card security breech.
    okay. i understand about the evil hackers and the nsa peeping toms, but how did target get my email address?

  62. patd,

    I received a like email. I have used a credit card there, but not during the period in question. I did receive my flu shot there this year. Probably gave them my email then, and, also, I returned some merchandise earlier in the year, may have given it then.

    But, your point is well taken, the actions by the “private” sector are a helluva lot more insidious than those of our NSA without Snowden.

    In his address yesterday, the prez gave the “community’ some well earned and necessary strokes.

    I remember when our kids were young and they asked what I did at work. I told them I was a cook. They were really impressed and held bragging rights over the other kids.

  63. I’m writing from darketest Yucatan, which turns out to be pretty sunny and bright. The nearest village is Uaymitun. The nearest town is Progreso. The temperature here dropped down into the high 60s a few nights ago, and folks were griping that they were freezing.Sheeseh. We were walking around in shorts and light short sleeved shirts. The locals had long pants, shirts & sweaters, with jackets or overcoats.

    More later.

  64. xrepublican: The temperature here dropped down into the high 60s a few nights ago, and folks were griping that they were freezing.

    LOL, Xr!!
    Welcome to my world! Anything under 75 is cold!
    Hope you show us some pics and share things that you learn about the culture there. I love traveling without going anywhere. Enjoy!

  65. chloe,

    He he, yes! Its 61 here today, cold.. I have the heat on 75 in the house.. Very strange cause in Michigan i would have a few windows open, lol… :roll:

  66. Chris Christie Machine Held Hoboken Hostage
    by Taylor Marsh

    BEYOND BRIDGEGATE, Steve Knornacki had a revealing report Saturday on MSNBC that depicts Gov. Chris Christie as an old time political boss in the tradition of Chicago’s Richard Daley. The reporting alleges Christie’s machine held the mayor and citizens of Hoboken hostage in order to benefit connected developers, while using much need Sandy funding as the lever.

    In this account – supported by email, public records and Zimmer’s own diary entries – Christie’s inner circle was willing to cut off devastated constituents, muscle a friendly mayor and arrange public funds to finance a study for a project the governor supported.In a news conference last week, Christie rejected the notion that his administration engages in retribution or seeks political payback. Zimmer’s account paints a different portrait. Zimmer claims they leaned on her twice to get their way. By the second encounter, Zimmer said – this time with Constable – the 45-year-old mayor and mother of two young children was despondent, according to her own notes.“I was emotional about governor Christie,” she wrote in a diary entry she provided that is dated May 17, 2013. “I thought he was honest. I thought he was moral. I thought he was something very different. This week I found out he’s cut from the same corrupt cloth that I have been fighting for the last four years.”New Jersey Democratic Rep. Frank Pallone told UP Saturday that Zimmer’s accusations suggest an “abuse of power” by the Christie administration. “This is something that the U.S. attorney should be looking at, and has to be further investigated,” he said.

  67. Flatus,

    my only target transaction for the whole of last year was in store with the swipe of a shell mastercard. i may have surfed their products online (no more than once) but never ordered anything. again i ask, how did they get my email address? and what else pray tell?

  68. flatus and xr, i too ditto your commendations on the speech.
    the reference to historical intelligence gathering from paul revere to civil war balloons to ww2 code breakers was a nice touch.

  69. also agree with these lines in
    Obama’s Speech on N.S.A. Phone Surveillance

    …. our nation’s defense depends in part on the fidelity of those entrusted with our nation’s secrets. If any individual who objects to government policy can take it into their own hands to publicly disclose classified information, then we will not be able to keep our people safe, or conduct foreign policy.

  70. I’ve really been enjoying this meandering thread. sorry I haven’t put a new one up but have been busy in the boiler room since our crash the other day. Contributors, as always, are welcome to send me a new post. Or likewise let me know if you’d like to become a contributor.

  71. Tonyb: Very strange cause in Michigan i would have a few windows open

    How quickly we acclimate, Tony. When you mentioned having your heat on 75, I was wondering how you ever lived in Michigan.. all I can think is how cold it is there (Mi). Your winters in Florida are warmer than our winters here in Houston. Next winter, we want to travel down as far south as necessary, during the Christmas holidays, and soak up the sun.

  72. chloe,

    Oh yes, i wonder how i lived in Michigan all my life as well.. Yes, we acclimate quickly.. I have been here now almost 10 years so i guess my body rejects anything under 75, lol… Spoiled i am.. Still i wore shorts and a tee shirt today, with a long sleeve shirt, ah Florida in January..

  73. Ha, Tony. In S. Ca. I could wear shorts (on and off) most of the year around, often with a sweat shirt in the winter. I was running a few miles every morning up until a couple of years or so before we left there, and my metabolism was in good shape, so the cold (what little there was) didn’t bother me much. I’m less active now, and I think that’s part of the reason I like being warmer.

    Now you, the kind of work you do, I bet that keeps you going all day. Hard work does keep you very healthy, and I know you don’t let up much.

    Have a great weekend (what’s left of it)! If you’re like me, you’re still recuperating from the holidays.

  74. httpv://youtu.be/0szHqIXQ2R8

    Sunday Serendipity.

    Craig, If you are in the boiler room, stay away from the ‘steam heat’. 😉

    Have a great Sunday all.

  75. Craig:

    I have submitted a contribution.

    (My e-mail isn’t working, so I’m telling you here.)

  76. patd,

    My snifter would be in the piccolo range. But, it is crystal and I’m always careful to bump it against something else when I’m retrieving it. It’s bell-like clarity will sound for perhaps 10-12 seconds after the gentlest tap.

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