Declaring the 4th

As the holiday week begins it’s time for our annual reading of the Declaration of Independence, but this year with a brand new video I made using paintings from those days, and again with the great Bill Barker as Thomas Jefferson.

May the 4th Be With You!

Edited by Craig Crawford
Performed by Bill Barker of Williamsburg, Virginia

The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us: For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

The 56 signers of the Declaration (in the order of their signatures)

John Hancock

Button Gwinnett
Lyman Hall
George Walton

North Carolina:
William Hooper
Joseph Hewes
John Penn

South Carolina:
Edward Rutledge
Thomas Heyward, Jr.
Thomas Lynch, Jr.
Arthur Middleton

Samuel Chase
William Paca
Thomas Stone
Charles Carroll of Carrollton

George Wythe
Richard Henry Lee
Thomas Jefferson
Benjamin Harrison
Thomas Nelson, Jr.
Francis Lightfoot Lee
Carter Braxton

Robert Morris
Benjamin Rush
Benjamin Franklin
John Morton
George Clymer
James Smith
George Taylor
James Wilson
George Ross

Caesar Rodney
George Read
Thomas McKean

New York:
William Floyd
Philip Livingston
Francis Lewis
Lewis Morris

New Jersey:
Richard Stockton
John Witherspoon
Francis Hopkinson
John Hart
Abraham Clark

New Hampshire:
Josiah Bartlett
William Whipple

Samuel Adams
John Adams
Robert Treat Paine
Elbridge Gerry

Rhode Island:
Stephen Hopkins
William Ellery

Roger Sherman
Samuel Huntington
William Williams
Oliver Wolcott

New Hampshire:
Matthew Thornton

177 thoughts on “Declaring the 4th”

  1. Whoo hoo!!!

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal

    What a noble goal and we are getting closer to the idea even if it is one funeral at a time.
    Yesterday we got the KCPD to send a Spanish speaking officer to the event instead of the usual officer friendly. Progress is often made in small steps but we are making progress.


  2. re bw’s concern for disease brought in by the immigrant children:
    ironic that 500 years later many of the descendants might reciprocate the favor brought by some of our ancestors to theirs.

  3. from wiki, another declaration of independence made in cuba in 1868. note what is in bold:

    Speaking from the steps of his sugar mill, and calling upon men of all races and walks of life to join the uprising, Carlos Manuel de Céspedes gave the following speech, during which he unfurled and raised the new flag of an independent Cuba,[5] and rang the bell tower of his sugar mill in celebration of the proclamation:

    In rebelling against Spanish tyranny, we want the world know the reasons for our action.

    Spain governs us with blood and iron; she imposes on us levies and taxes as she pleases; she has deprived us of political, civil, and religious freedoms; we are subjected to martial law in times of peace; without due process, and in defiance of Spanish law, we are arrested, exiled and even executed. We are prohibited free assembly, and if allowed to assemble, it is only under the watchful eyes of government agents and military officers; and if anyone clamors for a remedy to these abuses, or for any of the many other evils, Spain declares them a traitor.

    Spain burdens us with rapacious bureaucrats who exploit our national treasure and consume the product of our noble labor. So that we may not know our rights, it maintains our people ignorant of those rights, and to ensure that the people are kept ignorant, she prevents the people from participating in responsible public administration.

    Without impending military danger, and without any reason or justification, Spain imposes on us an unnecessary and costly military presence, whose sole purpose is to terrorize and humiliate us.

    Spain’s system of customs is so perverse that we have already perished from its misery and she exploits the fertility of our land while raising the price of its fruits. She imposes every imaginable obstacle to prevent the advancement of our Creole population. Spain limits our free speech and the written word, and she prevents us from participating in the intellectual progress of other nations.

    Several times Spain has promised to improve our condition and she has deceived us time and time again. We are now left no other recourse than to bear arms against her tyranny, and by doing this, to save our honor, our lives, and our property.

    We appeal now to Almighty God, and to the faith and good will of civilized nations. Our aspirations are to attain our sovereignty and universal suffrage.

    Our aim is to enjoy the benefits of freedom, for whose use, God created man. We sincerely profess a policy of brotherhood, tolerance, and justice, and to consider all men equal, and to not exclude anyone from these benefits, not even Spaniards, if they choose to remain and live peacefully among us.

    Our aim is that the people participate in the creation of laws, and in the distribution and investment of the contributions.

    Our aim is to abolish slavery and to compensate those deserving compensation. We seek freedom of assembly, freedom of the press and the freedom to bring back honest governance; and to honor and practice the inalienable rights of men, which is the foundations of the independence and the greatness of a people.

    Our aim is to throw off the Spanish yoke, and to establish a free and independent nation.

    If Spain recognizes our rights, it will have in Cuba an affectionate daughter; if she persists in subjugating us, we are resolved to die before remaining subject to her brutal domination.

    We have chosen a commander to whom will be given the mission of fighting this war. We have authorized a provisional administrator to collect contributions and to manage the needs of a new administration.

    When Cuba is free, it will have a constitutional government created in an enlightened manner.

  4. Half of the men who signed the Declaration of Independence owned slaves.

    On July 4th, all across the USA, politicians will be giving speeches about “democracy and freedom,” while at the same time they are plotting to keep blacks from voting.

    Not much has changed since 1776.

  5. “He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither…”

    And so it goes… but we’ll have fireworks and hot dogs and revel in the freedoms we have decided should be limited to we who have been here a while.

  6. Nash 2.5: Half of the men who signed the Declaration of Independence owned slaves

    that’s what’s so notable about Carlos Manuel de Céspedes known as –- the Father of the Cuban Homeland — ” a landowner, freed all his slaves and invited them to join in a war against the Spanish colonial government of the island.”

    how many of our slave owning founding fathers did that upon declaring our independence?

  7. Craig.Crawford:
    patd, ah but then everyone in Cuba ended up as slaves. I’d say our revolution held together a bit better, even if we do need another one.

    Craig, I’m with you. I am not convinced that anything is going to change in our good old USA absent a good many pitch forks in the streets.

  8. a bit over the top emoting, but here’s a rundown of the sacrifices endured by some of the signers.

  9. It bugs me that liberals let the Tea Party take ownership of the American Revolution, and now trash its founders. They were flawed elites for sure, and certainly punted on slavery, but tossing the world’s greatest power of their day is still worth celebrating.

  10. And do we seriously think the British would have freed the slaves within 75 years? Their economy greatly benefited from our slaves. For starters, cheap cotton. Heck, they’re the ones who brought them here in the first place.

  11. Craig.Crawford: Heck, they’re the ones who brought them here in the first place.

    not according to the slavery timeline

    November 1528: a slave called Esteban (or Estevanico) becomes the first African slave to step foot on what is now the United States of America. He was one of only four survivors of Pánfilo de Narváez’s failed expedition to Florida. He and the other three took eight years to walk to the Spanish colony in Mexico. After their return in 1536, the group’s leader, Álvar Núñez Cabeza de Vaca, published an account of their journey through modern Texas and Mexico (1542).

  12. well I must correct myself, they did beat us to it, 13th Amendment was adopted in 1865 — “In July 1833, a Bill to abolish slavery throughout the British Empire passed in the House of Commons”

    But it was easier for them to do having lost the American colonies, they no longer had much economic stake in slavery. Think they would have kept slavery longer if they had won the Revolutionary War.

  13. I think that many of them paid lip service to abolishing slavery because it made them feel good about themselves. The economic activity and commerce associated with slavery made them feel even better.

    Not unlike in my opinion our current debate over immigration. We don’t want people, especially Hispanics here illegally. We don’t want to pay for educating them, caring for their health problems, or receiving any type of public assistance.

    We do however really like them to pick our produce, clean out public facilities, mow our lawns re shingle our roofs clean our toilets and look after our kids. Just to name a few.
    We like many of the services that they provide, just not enough to make them citizens or pay them a living wage.

  14. It’ s worth noting that 2/3 of Declaration signers had no slaves, including one of its authors, John Adams. Franklin had 2 house servants he eventually released and then founded the abolitionist movement. Washington freed his while still alive. Don’t think any serious historian would disagree that, morally wrong as it was to keep slavery, there would not have been sufficient consensus among the colonies to even start the Revolutionary War.

  15. I can just see Jace dancing his kid down the aisle to the opening movement of the Grieg. Kick it up, Dad!!

  16. Ah-ha. So my question about the Mexican government’s involvement is not isolated. The Boarder Patrol is questioning how so many minors could make their way from Central America, through Mexico (which has harsh penalties for illegal entry), to a single point of entry in Texas.
    New conspiracy theory out there that this involved the Obsma admin & the Mexican government; a logistical operation of some sort.

    And while international, air travel means all countries are exposed to illnesses from travelers, so far, there has only been one case of H1N1 (swine flu). We end up with a many cases of super-TB in Texas, soI think this may seem like something that is happening far away to most folks.

    My other question is why they are bring called minors. Yes, some are very young. However, some if the pics show older teens (and without documents, who is to know their real age), but the media like the pics of the younger ones.

    The charitable organizations are strained to the max. Some if them are being sent to Dallas to help reduce the strain at the facilities on the border. They will, most likely, send the youngest ones since Dallas is a big TV market & they’ve got to quell concerns.

    If that many people can get through, why not someine with bad intentions?
    Or, did the Mexican & US governments bring them through?

  17. jace,

    Well, I have cleaned buildings, worked in restaurants, de-tasseled corn & worked in a warehouse. I’m not sure why folks just assume that certain groups of people are doing those jobs. And whoever is doing those jobs should be here legally, have the benefit of labor laws oy protect them & pay tax on their earnings.

    We want people here legally. We want know who they are & why they are here.
    There is nothing wrong with that. There are an estimated 10K Irish in the NY area who just didn’t go home. That’s not right, either.

    A friend’s mom worked for an immigration office & said a lot of people come in in student visas & dissapear. How, given the state of the world, is that not a problem?

    The manufacturing jobs in my company were moved to Mexico.

  18. jace,

    By the way, a lot of the produce down here are products of other countries unless you can get to a farmers’ market.

  19. Two billion? That’s what we’re being asked to build more processing facility on the border? Who would benefit from that expenditure? Why this huge influx of people to create a need for all of this money to be spent? Why wasn’t some spent on securing the border before?
    Something’s fishy.

  20. Hey all, we’re off fishing this week in North Carolina so now is a good time for contributors to offer up their own posts for threads. For those who have not signed up yet as contributors just send me an email and I’ll let you know how..

    Grouper and sea bass beware, we’re coming after ya!

  21. When each man added his signature to the Declaration of Independence, he was potentially signing his death warrant. This was an act of treason.

    We can criticize them all we want for moral failings from our 21st century perch. They were not gods; they were humans with an 18th century outlook and sensibility on life. The truth is each of these men willingly put their lives, their wealth, their homes on the line. Everything. This took an amazing amount of courage I cannot fathom.

    And to each and everyone of them, I say thank you.

  22. sjwny, well said! The very fact that the Founders were elites made their choice for Revolution even more amazing. Hate to think what kind of place we’d be if they hadn’t done what they did. Probably a bunch of warring nation states like Europe I’m guessing. At least we only had one Civil War, tho it was a doozy.

  23. And also thanks to them we can call them a bunch of hypocrite racists and gripe about anyone in power today however we like. Still plenty of countries where that doesn’t happen without punishment.

  24. Craig.Crawford,

    My Dad’s folks came from an area beset by stupid, petty 19th Century squabbles between Grand Duchies ruled by inbred idiots. Oh and let’s not forget the deprivation and financial ruin caused by the Napoleonic Wars not that much earlier. Seriously, Europe was effed up. Coming to America was Grandpa’s & Grandma’s dream – as hokey as it sounds – but dammit I understand why and can’t thank them enough for coming here, as I am sure millions of my fellow Americans can understand too.

  25. Sjw……I feel the same gratitude about my dad moving to the Carolina lowcountry out of Alabama in ’40……..Thanks, Dad. :)

    Our oldest ancestor dude in the USA came from Westphalia in 1748 at age 18……..Thanks, Old Ancestor dude, :)

  26. Jace…
    I thought about you and Cheryl yesterday. I hope the both of you and your daughter and new son-in-law had an awesome wedding.

  27. Hey everybody
    I’ve been busy getting my thankyous out for last weekend. Now I will do things like mow the grass that is 10 inches high. With all this rain everything is growing. including the weeds in my garden. I will try to take a picture of the garden to share on my blog. but later.

    things I learned this week end,

    1. I’ve got lots of friends and supporters. In the neighborhood, city wide and of course here.

    2 Hispanics like hotdogs(I didn’t buy enough) Anglo’s eat carne asada and everybody chowed down on my Samoan neighbors marinated chicken legs. Well everybody except me and Mrs. Jack. We were to late to the table for the chicken. But I’ve a quart of his marinade in the fridge and I know where to buy chicken legs. Maybe for the 4th of July.


  28. Well we are now officially a Theocratic County ruled by Corporations and Evangelical Christian American Taliban Churches.

    Mussolini’s Chief Fascist Judge Antonin Scalia and Hitler’s Chief Nazis Judge John Roberts just made a ruling that gives preferences to the American Taliban Christians and their Corporate owners.

    I was under the impression that laws that gave special legal status or treatment to one particular group or class of people was unconstitutional. It appears that I was wrong.

    The SCOTUS has just endorsed the Christian Religion as a Protected Religion under Our Constitution with all rights that are meant for the people and not Corporations or Religions.

    They have just breached the Wall of Separation between Church and State and like Iran and many other Mid-Eastern Countries are ruled by Ayatollahs.

    I think that now would be a good time to boycott Hobby Lobby and Conestoga Wood Specialties Corp. of PA. and hurt them where they will be hurt the most, in the pocket book.

    Also I would like too see all female employee’s of both Companies if they can afford to do so resign/quit. I’m sure there are plenty of submissive women who will do as their Religious bosses and Churches tell them whats best for them.

    Now we can all sit back and watch all the lawsuits pile up from Religious Institutions and Companies fighting the ACA health care law.

    Have a great day and week.

  29. So, what happens when a Christian Scientist doesn’t want to cover his employees because it conflicts with his beliefs?

    What happens when an employer says they don’t believe in Western medicine, without the benefit of a religious conflict (just a claim of his personal world view)?

    Single payer time, at last? It would come out of everyone’s taxes & shut the Hobby Lobby lobby the heck up.

  30. blueINdallas: My other question is why they are bring called minors

    well, for one thing it helps them slip in under laws passed during w’s time which delayed if not prohibited the deportation of unaccompanied minors.

  31. I’m sorry, but anyone against easy availability of “Plan B” contraceptives for young women is a lunatic.

  32. Another RW idiotic take on first amendment rights. This time money = religion. Now what else in the first amendment could money be equal to?


    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    OK when will the decisions come down that establish that money = the press, peaceable assembly and right to petition the government? Can’t be long now. God I hate the RW Court.

  33. Dallas Morning News editorial gives us something to think about for the 4th: Big Brother is Watching:

    Congress hasn’t significantly updated federal privacy law since the Electronic Communications Privacy Act passed 28 years ago, leaving private communications online far less protected than telephone conversations, mail or paper documents stored in an office file drawer. “

  34. Craig.Crawford: British merchants sailed an estimated 10,000 slave voyages to the Colonies

    The quantity of slaves shipped to the colonies is stunning, equally stunning is how many people were shipped from England, often as endentured servants. A step above an African or Native American slave because they might actually be freed. Freed if they did not die. Somewhere in my research notes is that approximately 25% of indentured servants died in the field, roughly the same as the African and Native American slaves.

    The growth of the colonies from various European country explorers to delivery place for English rejects and cousins of royals, is amazing. Hundreds of thousands each year left the homeland to be settled in the Colonies to raise tobacco.

    One branch arrived here in Maryland roughly thirty years after St. Mary’s was settled, about 1660. Other branches arrived shortly later. Loyal subjects, perhaps. By the 1770’s they were not only disloyal, they freed their slaves and joined the Continental Army.

  35. Flatus:
    I can just see Jace dancing his kid down the aisle to the opening movement of the Grieg. Kick it up, Dad!!


    I did. Thanks so much.

  36. RebelliousRenee:
    I thought about you and Cheryl yesterday.I hope the both of you and your daughter and new son-in-law had an awesome wedding.


    Thank you so much. It was amazing.
    We shed a tear or two and proceeded to have the time of our lives.

  37. Not like we couldn’t see this coming …

    Baghdad, Iraq (CNN, 7:01 PM EDT) — The United States has increased its military presence in Iraq, ordering 300 more troops to the violence-ravaged nation, the Pentagon announced Monday.
    The new troops, 200 of whom arrived Sunday and Monday, will provide security for the U.S. Embassy, the Baghdad airport and other facilities in Iraq, Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. John Kirby said.
    The deployment includes “a detachment of helicopters and unmanned aerial vehicles, which will bolster airfield and travel route security,” Kirby said in a written statement.
    The 300 troops are in addition to 300 U.S. advisers who will help train Iraq’s security forces. They will bring the total of American forces in Iraq to about 800 troops.”


    Please don’t misunderstand me. I have no desire to have anyone here illegally.

    I do however, find it the height of hypocrisy for so many of the loudest critics of immigration reform to be so opposed to a pathway for citizenship, while at the same time being so willing to avail themselves of the services and goods that are provided by what is essentially, an underground economy.

    How long should we ask that these people be full contributors to society, without offering them the benefits and protections of that society?

  39. Craig.Crawford: The 300 troops are in addition to 300 U.S. advisers who will help train Iraq’s security forces. They will bring the total of American forces in Iraq to about 800 troops.”


    Correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t we train Iraq’s security forces once before?

  40. I haven’t done this rant in a long time.
    This isn’t about “illegals” what ever the f**k that is.
    It is all about bad policy on our part.
    When our economy is working we need a source of quality low skill workers. Those left behind in our educational system are the dregs. They are the charlies that we had on the construction crew that not only couldn’t read a tape measure but they couldn’t be taught to read one. our Mexican crew members for all the language barriers quickly learned the basics. They were quality workers.
    So some how we need a way for them to come up here and work. It benefits us all. If we all want to be Chiefs then we need a steady supply of Indians.
    Or as I told some one long ago. when I am in the nursing home and low wage workers are wiping my ass, I much prefer the person be someone who is grateful for the job rather than some one who is pissed because it is the only job they can find.

  41. `and anytime I play Garth Brooks I remember Patsi
    The Thunder Rolls


  42. re: Revolutionary War

    The British today have a society with more equality of income, and less racial discrimination than the USA.

    The UK is a better place to live with more progressive values.

    Maybe we would all be better off if we had remained subjects of King George III.

    The American Revolution was really just about lower taxes, after all.

    Then and now, the people who always call for lower taxes are the ones with the most reactionary values, and the most destructive social agenda.

  43. Happy independence day and thank you for the post, Craig…never tire of seeing Ben Franklin in paintings. And the visual is very telling of the time, no humans of color or women! But at least the elites were open to amendments!

    Well, well, the world is falling apart this summer…faster than usual. And once we realize that immigration is not us against the Hispanic world, maybe we can address refugees and immigration. Look at how well things turned out for the Ruskie immigration into the US. We created Marathon bombers and some of my friends have adopted Russian children who are now in college. I wonder if anyone is interested in fostering or adopting the children from Central America? We obviously do not want to fast track them into citizenship like the Russians. If these were children from Europe, would we feel the same? The lesser than attitude continues.

  44. “The UK is a better place to live with more progressive values.”

    -unless you value teeth. Hey-oh!

    …but seriously, are any of those statements true?

  45. blueINdallas: So, what happens when a Christian Scientist doesn’t want to cover his employees because it conflicts with his beliefs?

    or a devout sharia law believing muslim family owned business of which there are many?

  46. blueid,
    more penguins
    and even sesame street penguins

  47. Banking collusion, soccer hooliganism, race riots, poverty riots, thug-controlled districts, social and economic stratification, alliance with the U.S. in almost every international engagement, discrimination against immigrants and minorities (“pakis”), Simon Cowell…

    I could go on. Thay have better actors, I’ll concede that much.

  48. Am I reading into it wrongly, or can I assume that the current Supreme Court would overturn anti-discrimination laws based on perceived sexual orientation, such as the “gay wedding cake” issue in the news, recently? I’m asking, I don’t know.

  49. just noticed I forgot to link the cite for the unaccompanied minors comment. here ’tis
    from irishtimes

    The White House is preparing an emergency request to Congress for more power to allow fast-track deportation of tens of thousands of unaccompanied children from Central America who cross the US border illegally.
    The administration has had to adhere to anti-trafficking laws passed during the presidency of George W Bush which set out protocols for handling unaccompanied minors and which had the potential for delaying deportation.

    Unlike migrants from Mexico and Canada, children from countries without a border with the US, including Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, are first screened by a US border control agent. These have a limit of 72 hours for detaining the children, who are then transferred to the office of refugee resettlement, part of the US human services department. The department is required to “act in the best interest of the child”, which often means sending them to foster care or a relative in the US.

  50. update to above

    (Reuters) – President Barack Obama said on Monday he would take executive action to revamp the U.S. immigration system and move additional resources to protect the border after hopes of passing broad reform legislation in Congress officially died.

  51. I keep losing comments while looking for supporting links using tabbed browsing on mobile, so I give up, but I tried.

    Have a good day.

  52. Ignex:

    “Are any of those statements true?”

    If the USA has any flaws we can always take comfort in the belief that we are still better than every other nation.

    Whether this is actually true or not isn’t important, because that is what we believe.

    One of the things that defines “being an American” in the eyes of the rest of the world is our unquestioning belief that we are the best, in spite of any evidence to the contrary.

  53. “In spite of any evidence to the contrary”

    Feel free to post when you have some. Everything I found contradicts your subjective value judgements, but like I said, I lost the links, and really, the onus should be on you, in this case, at least. Am I right? Despite evidence to the contrary, I’m choosing to believe I am (because I am)!

    Damnit, I’m going to shift the onus with such arrogance. Ok, I’m not getting any younger, good day, again.

  54. The Hobby Lobby case will soon be added to Retired Justice Stevens list of Court Mistakes

  55. There is a little tiny town on the Russian River that takes their 4th of July celebration very seriously..Villa Grande (also known as Villa Pretentious)

    Every year they dress up and march around town and then go down to the beach and shoot off their cannon (I think the because they have the cannon that’s the real reason for the party)

    the rest of the River thinks they are a bit like the children of the corn.

  56. Just catching my breath and catching up.

    Top 4 reasons republicans should never hold the White House again.

    1 Roberts
    2 Scalia
    4 Alito

  57. Congratulations Jace on your wonderful event.
    We went to a wedding over the weekend and it’s always wonderful to see two people in love and who want to share it

  58. jace,

    Exactly my point. They have been shooting of the cannon for a long time but only recently dressing up.

    For a couple of years they kind of invited the general public but now they’ve decided the fewer outsiders the better

  59. sturgeone,

    Hah! Star Wars meets The Rifleman.

    WRT the unaccompanied minors – I think most of them should request asylum. They are fleeing countries with the highest murder rates in the world. They could each at least make a colorable claim.

  60. Jace, I echo (exactly) KC’s 10:28 comment, right down to attending a wedding over the weekend.


    A step in the wrong direction IMHO.

  61. KGC and Pogo,

    Thanks. It was lovely and fun!
    Janna is the first of our children to marry.

    Mom and dad managed to keep their emotions in check. For the most part.

  62. Pogo,

    I wasn’t making a case for American social superiority, as much as I was making one against English social superiority. If it were Germany in question, I’d have a harder time, but England?! The Scottish don’t even agree with that, and they live on the same island!

    …and how bad could America be, with people dying in shipping containers trying to get here, and warehoused like chickens when they do?!

    Burkina Faso has less income inequality and racial discrimination than the US. Who’s moving, and can I have your car?

  63. Eventually the immigrants will stop coming.

    That’s what we should be worried about.

  64. You can criticize the British, but their government isn’t held captive by a minority of right-wing religious fanatics.

    Which is what we have here in the USA.

    This is the elephant in the room that no one seems to notice.

  65. Won’t surprise anyone I’m on Ignex side when it comes to Brit bashing. You know how that whole monarchy thing pisses me off. And with no Constitution they could do stuff like put people in jail for just speaking the IRA’s name on the airwaves.

    Jace, I’ve been remiss in not congratulating you on your daughter’s wedding. Have any pictures to post, or did I miss that too?

  66. There is always dropping a line or crab pot into the Bay. My plans are changed to stay home on the 4th and go to the boat after the heavy weather moves on.

  67. yep Blue, yesterday I was hopeful because the Hurricane Hunter flight found it hadn’t yet organized itself into a cyclone, but now it has, barely getting to Tropical Depression status. Getting over warmer water soon and now losing the wind shears that were holding it down, about to head north and pick up speed to minimal hurricane numbers by Thursday off the SC coast.

  68. whskyjack:
    It has been an interesting week. Looks like we got those white folks all stirred up, lol
    Just over leadership training in Spanish. They were fine with a park until that popped up.Last week they were doing their best to give our childrens park away to a group that want to provide education to at risk young adults(read criminals) and today as we forged ahead they pulled their financing(we got a grant to pay for this but it is in their name)
    So old Jack has his dander up and is ready to kick ass and take names.

    Ya see I promised the kids in the neighborhood a party and by damn they are going to get one even if I pay for it all out of my own pocket.

    Further more it looks as if the grant is a goner too or at least that is what we told the group that is creating the training for us.

    Folks I’m pissed and ready to tear certain folks a new one. So I’ve never done this but I’m asking for your help. I’ve created a paypal button on the McCoy Friends y Amigos blogBut it is not just the party$300. if we can raise another $500 I can hire a smart young intern I just met to help me organize the folks over there and we can take our case for a park directly to the parks department where we have a friend on the commission and to the city infrastructure funding commission where we also have a friend (she likes children!!!) Also if anybody has a spare $5000 laying around I can do 8 sessions of training for my Latino neighbors really drive the neighborhood association nuts.
    So any help is much appreciated or just pass the word to some one who can help.


    Jack, one more group of resources that should certainly be grovelled to is the United Way of Greater Kansas City and its affiliated organizations.

    Although the people at the United Way itself may not want to offer you a grant, they may very well be pleased to steer you in the right direction for free expert guidance and an organization that would be eager to take your project under its wing. The Guadeloupe group might be one such organization.

    Hope you got my paypal donation.

    In any case, for your own protection and that of your volunteers, it seems that you absolutely must come under the umbrella of some sort of charitable IRS subchapter, and spend some of your donated money for personal liability protection (errors and omissions?) policy. Obviously, I’m not the expert on this sort of thing. But you are clearly at the stage where you will be assuming more risk than may be advisable.


  69. A good hurricane always makes vast improvements in all the oceanfront property around here, but as usual, that’s god’s business…….mine not to reason why, mine but to help them rebuild……..if its enough of a hurricane, I get to see the mountains again……..

  70. pogo: A step in the wrong direction

    to paraphrase: a small step for obama but a leap into the void for democrats…

  71. Ig, sorry, missed the precursor posts about England between you and Nash. You two can haggle it out.

    Yes Craig, the monarchy is an anachronism that today provides little value beyond entertainment. Of course what would the daily rags in London do without it?

  72. from bbc

    The European Court of Human Rights has upheld a ban by France on wearing the Muslim full-face veil – the niqab.

    A case was brought by a 24-year-old French woman, who argued that the ban on wearing the veil in public violated her freedom of religion and expression.

  73. Ig, btw, the weather in England generally is worse than here (at least parts of here) from what I hear, although the week I was there many years ago it was very pleasant.

  74. The British Royal family is a living museum exhibit.

    They have no political power, and no important role at all in society, except to do stupid things and embarrass themselves.

    On the other hand, WE have the Bush family.

    I think the British win that one.

  75. Gloom and doom, gloom and doom…
    Pessimism is the easy way out: moaning and groaning about how terrible things are, nothing changes, nothing will change – and yep, our national stage is plagued by bad actors. Always has been. Always will be. Next question?

    Mock optimism if you choose, but that little light within us spurred on the abolitionists, the suffragettes. FDR was optimism personified. We gave ourselves a decade to land a man on the moon, and we did. Gay people actually have Rights. I’m not going to give into the darkside when any of these accomplishments are threatened. Progress is slow, it stutters, but it never stops moving forward, because I’ve chosen to never give up on helping it along.

  76. SJ, not gloom & doom – reality. Without taking a realistic look at our weaknesses, we never will improve. Most of our problems are a result of providing insufficient resources to address the demonstrable weaknesses. (We can’t afford it whine the ‘can’ts). Rosy optimism and American jingoism doesn’t help improve where we need improvement. And right now in soccer, we’re tied with Belgium at the 62nd minute. Go USA!

  77. btw, Through 70 minutes Belgium has had 19 shots to our 4 with time of possession being 50/50. Dangerous stuff.

  78. Nash 2.5, the Brits have no constitutional protection against a popular monarch in bad times from seizing power and disbanding Parliament. A member of the House of Lords agreed with me once when I posed that scenario. And at least our taxes don’t support the Bush family lifestyle like the useless Queen and her freeloading inbred family.

  79. In stoppage time (3 min.). Tim Howard is a magician. 31 shots on goal by BLG to 6 for US. Still 0-0.

  80. pogo,

    Of course it is reality. How do you choose to react? We have an awful situation right now in our government, society. Talking about how terrible things are, let’s move to England, blah, blah, blah is fine but accomplishes nothing unless you stand behind your words and put out. Doing something is…oh saints preserve us… optimistic: You believe there is something worth fighting for and are willing to fight for it. We need Liberals, Democrats, Progressives, anyone willing to stand up and grow a pair, to put themselves on the line and less hiding behind pessimistic words. The Reality is optimism accomplishes much; pessimism accomplishes little.

  81. re: “Britain vs America” debate

    Monty Python’s John Cleese provides a very timely explanation of …

    … the difference between soccer and football.


  82. Anyone on the southeastern Atlantic Coast should be paying close attention to Arthur. This is an unusually erratic and unpredictable storm, could be a dud but also worse than predicted. Today’s tracker plane couldn’t even safely fly through it to get accurate data. And water temps are higher than usual, wind shears dissipating and other factors allowing it to gain strength. as a long time student of the hurricane centers usually understated advisories I can tell by the conversational tone of their language they are beginning to get really worried

  83. Well I might have to ride this bastard out…..won’t be the first time………but I predict that young Arthur will by-pass and wreak its havoc further north. If I’m wrong I will stand corrected…….

  84. I got into this argument with this republican friend of mine about ten years my junior….hurricanes came up and I said I remember Hurricane Charlie early fifties……he says no way……they name hurricanes after women……..I says they only started doing that later in the game……but nooooooo…..he’s not wrong. So when I got home I emailed him a weather site…….Reply from him, no that’s wrong. I says, goddammit, that’s the real McKoy right there…….they named hurricanes after Able, Baker, and Charlie….he wasn’t just greenin’ me, he really would not give in that he might be wrong. I mean, he’s from Greenville, whattafuck he know about a hurricane?

    Effin’ republicans.

  85. sjwny: We need Liberals, Democrats, Progressives, anyone willing to stand up and grow a pair, to put themselves on the line and less hiding behind pessimistic words. The Reality is optimism accomplishes much; pessimism accomplishes little.


    A real progressive with a heart of fire and balls of steel could run a very effective campaign on income inequality, Citizens United,, the rights of workers, the rights of women and the need for comprehensive immigration reform.

    The can’t s have set the table, all we need is for someone to pull up a chair.

    Sadly I see no one willing to take advantage of the situation.

  86. sturgeone,
    Flatus, I’ve been suspicious of this storm from the get-go (Of course watching it closely for impact on my fishing plans). A late starter not expected to become a hurricane but defied the odds and now it’s in perfect conditions to accelerate and grow.

  87. Flatus…..were I to come, I would come with a backseat full of near pristine records of a lot of French music I have remained almost totally unfamiliar with……it may yet be……. Really will regret if David’s record collection goes the way of all flesh……….

  88. Flatus,

    Yes we got your donation, and thank you very much and a thanks also to Pogo and others who donated quietly. The total after paypal expenses was $309 and some odd cents.

    Interesting you should mention Guadalupe center inc. They were the ones that came in and took over the St Paul campus after we drove off the “hot shot Republican lobbyist” last fall. They are good friends and advisors to us. They have also found us translators that have made much of what we are doing possible. We have given them permission to distance themselves from the fight because we understand the danger for them.
    There are a number resources available for properly organized groups. and that is where we are headed in the long run. One thing we have been doing ever since last fall is expand our contacts and build upon them. We have been very successful and have friends throughout the city.
    Right now we are at a standstill in regard to the grant until the neighborhood association decides what they are going to do.
    But that doesn’t mean we are stopped. We are putting pressure on them from several directions We have contacted a group that does conflict resolution, talked to the city civil rights division about the email and the behavior of the group. And started up conversations with our council people.
    What we need is for the city to recognize the organization we want to form. Then there are all kinds of grants available from numerous organizations. so Mrs jack and I are on several tracks some of which may seem disconnected but all headed toward the same object. We maybe crazy but we think we can pull it off.
    Although right now we are felling like the guy in a bar fight who keeps getting knocked down and his friends keep helping him up pushing him back in the fight while assuring him he is winning the fight.
    But hey what can I say, we are having fun


  89. jace,

    A sad situation. Every time NPR, BBC, NYT etc run an interview or feature on an up-and-coming Republican/Conservative it = free publicity for the potential candidate which then translates into $ freed up in the Party coffer to use elsewhere. It also gives an aura of credibility to that person in the eyes and ears of the listener.

    Always curious as to why the Democratic Leadership has an acute phobia to promote itself and its’ talent. If it has few prospects, then why isn’t it actively scouting? Who, What, Why, Where are the Democratic Party Leaders? They’ve had so many golden opportunities to exploit in their favor, yet what should have ended in a roar with these situations ends in a whimper or crickets. How would that inspire confidence in future candidates and why would they want to play on this team?

  90. I wasn’t trying to bash the English, I’ve enjoyed a great many of their cultural exports over the years, and our societies are more similar than not. What I was trying to ” get at” is that, due to the economic interconnectedness and the fast and free flow of capital and labor across international borders, income inequality and immigration are challenges being faced by the entire developed and Western world. You think we have an immigration problem? Ukraine gas an immigration problem. Hey-oh!

    Oh, and how about all the nefarious stuff, including indentured servitude and homocidal negligence, of which FIFA is being accused concerning the construction of facilities in Rio for this World Cup (ugliest trophy ever, and not a even a cup, by the way). If American society is inherently evil, and I make no judgment there, rest assured that we certainly don’t have a monopoly on it.

    I also agree with Mr. C., that the British royal family, as well as other European latent monarchies, have more power than some might realize, and could assume even more overt power in some sort of hypothetical political shake-up, so let’s hope our society is not so similar, or someday we may be genuflecting before dictator-for-life Caius Kanye West Kardashius Caesar.

  91. Jamie,

    Without reading Quora, I will venture a guess – based on being forced to listen to terrestrial radio while the car is in the shop and the loaner aitn’t got Sirius/XM. Because they conservatives play to prejudices & fears and bash shit out of Obama. All done in pseudo argument style that sounds very reasonable, but based on the conlusions they ar reaching rather than the facts that should underlie the arguments. For instance – I heard the fat one bashing Obama’s favoring of Wall Street interests , because they were his donors and he’s beholden to them. This was on the same day a study regarding campaign finance sources was released – showing Obama at 6% for financial based contributions, with the Clintons at 12% and Romney at 13%. I’ll go read Quora and see what it says.

    OK, I agree with many of the Quora comments to an extent. The styles are different, but really, I’m one of the liberals Fatboy bashes, so I guess I am at fault.

  92. from huffpo

    Wilkerson, who formerly served as chief of staff to Colin Powell, recently blogged for The Huffington Post about Cheney’s imperial nature. When he joined HuffPost Live to discuss the former vice president, host Alyona Minkovski asked whether Cheney was immoral or amoral.

    Wilkerson said that to many Americans, including those “interested in the progress of this country, the progress of international criminal justice, human rights, human dignity and so forth,” Cheney is considered immoral. But Wilkerson has a different take.

    “I think amoral is a better and more precise, descriptive term. With Dick Cheney, it’s all about power. Yes, it’s about wealth coming from that power, too — he’s worth $70 million or $80 million now, so one can hardly say that’s not the case — but I think the power aspect of it … is more important to him than the amassing of wealth,” Wilkerson said.

    He added that an amoral person makes for “a more dangerous individual” than an immoral one.

    “Immorality is something that can be ferreted out, checked and balanced. Amorality is an altogether different affair, especially when you’re exploiting the politics of fear in order to carry out state purposes, which is what Dick Cheney’s forte is,” he said.

  93. sturgeone,

    Well, you all are welcome to come. We have comfortable couches and plenty of floor space.

    Craig, We are on the NE side of Columbia–make your decision soon.

    Sturg, should it make a shift towards you, traffic will become insurmountable very quickly, so…

    I think we are well stocked with necessities, including vino, and there is a fresh cartridge on the turntable and Jasper and I just refoamed the AR3a’s.

    So, bring it on!

  94. Good morning, I hope everyone stays safe this weekend. There is less birth control out there.

    I saw the winning side of the Supreme Hobby Lobby case declare their fertility is not a disease. Well, either is menopause, but it was declared a disease in the 1960s. This recent soft attack on Roe vs. Wade is disgusting. Birth control is bio-chemistry, not a moral failing. Vagina hoarding by the religious right continues.

  95. Deficiency disease in women.

    If a Hobby Lobby employee want a penis pump, they may get one through their insurance. If a Hobby Lobby employee wants hormone treatment for menopause, they will get it. Hypocritical, for sure.

  96. Flatus,

    WHOA!! A trip back in time – what better way to seek refuge to escape a storm? I remember the AR3a – JBL L100 head to head battles (I was a fan of the ARs) – with Bose being the “nontraditional” alternative. I ended up with a pair of ESS AMT 1Bs (floor models) that were just fricking impressive – I had ordered the bookshelf model, but they shipped the floor model – said I could keep or return at my option. I kept – and dragged those 100 pound beasts (and the 50 pound amp needed to drive them) around for 25 years before I finally bid them adieu. Haven’t had that kind of bass response and shimmering highs since – but there is nowhere in our family room that the beasts would sit without displacing a chair or blocking shelf doors.

  97. What sucks is that Hobby Lobby has a really good selection of items for a large variety of hobbies. I’ll try to shop at an outlet that has less managerial contempt for women, if I can, henceforth.

  98. When I evacuate I take the back roads almost always empty of traffic……..during Floyd I shot up straight to Augusta the back way about two hours ahead of the storm and while everyone else was stuck on I-26 looking for bathrooms on the side of the road I was kicked back with an iced Bud at Windsor Springs water company in Hepzibah…..

  99. pogo, there was a young man from China on PT playing his double base as if it was a violin. The ARs shown in all their glory! For the rear speakers, I have AR4a’s. They do very well in concert hall mode.

    In the other room I have moderately priced speakers (5-channel) supported by a 15-inch Kurzweil subwoofer. It makes some of that internet music sound acceptable.

    The big problem these days is finding receivers with the proper assortment of preamp inputs.

  100. sturgeone,
    We were in Myjamee for a convention as Andrew was arriving. We didn’t bother checking out, got in the car and raced across Alligator Alley then up US 19. No freeways.

  101. pogo,

    One of the conclusions was that Conservative outlets always blame others because their listeners are “real Americans” while Liberal outlets demand individual action by the listener … Eat your veggies, take public transport etc.

  102. I imagine that the governors of southern states actually want to get hit by hurricane Arthur.

    Chris Christie showed them what to do: take the federal disaster relief money, then use it to reward your friends and punish your enemies.

  103. Flatus, you take me back…Yeah, inputs for a reel-to-reel, cassette deck, cd/DVD player, turntable and now a TV, cable,DVR and internet feed – WHEW!!!

    Jamie, I saw that & that’s probably a valid conclusion. I think there is a more basic difference – progressive shows (in my experience) provide the listener informationbut don’t tell the listener how to think about that information. Conservative outlets provide information AND tell the listener what conclusion they should reach form that information (even if it the information is wrong – like the example I pointed out above), doing the thinking for the listener and taking any effort out of the mix. One comment I thought really drove another point home was teh comparison of RW entertainment talk shows versus progressive information shows. That is probably the simplest explanation.

  104. Huffington post has so much distracting crap on every page that’s it’s almost impossible to read.

    Every time I try to open a new page, it takes 30 seconds to load all the damn intrusive video ads.

    Every once in a while, I go back there to see if it’s any better, but it only gets worse.

    daily kos is much better, with better writing and less marketing crap.

  105. Good advice, Nash.

    Flatus – or should the slogan be Don’t shop where the owners hate women? (Of course in certain areas “women” cound be “hispanics”, “poor folks” …

  106. pogo:
    Flatus — or should the slogan be Don’t shop where the owners hate women? (Of course in certain areas “women” cound be “hispanics”, “poor folks” …

    The broader message is, if they hate “You”, they hate mankind to include women and all other groups.

    I think the messages must be kept short and simple. For instance, Discrimination Against One Is Discrimination Against All!

  107. In northern Maine (far from the sea) we LOVE hurricanes.

    They drive some of the “New York summer people” on the coast up here so we can overcharge them for motel rooms.

    Some of the owners have already raised their rates as high as $69 a night!

    The rooms with color TV are even higher.

    They only get two stations, but if you fiddle with the rabbit ears you can sometimes get the Canadian channel, which is OK if you speak French.

  108. I just checked out Google Earth and they actually have a “street level view” of my house.

    This is on a side street, off of Main Street, in a small town in the middle of nowhere, otherwise known as northern Maine.


    Downtown Boston, OK, even downtown Bangor is reasonable, but a STREET VIEW of a short residential street in a small rural town?

    What is even more interesting is that my house has Halloween decorations on it.

    At any moment I expect a knock at the door, and it will be a couple of nasty-looking androids.

    “We are from Google, and we demand candy.”

  109. Well, Nash, Google Maps doesn’t have street view for my home, but then again, it has me living in the little town next door (a real shithole I wouldn’t want to be caught dead in – other than to drive through it – not that our town is anything to write mom about). I do have to compliment GE, though, the new pic is much better than before (musta been in the last 6 months, there’s snow in the shadows.)

  110. pogo:

    I still can’t believe they got my house.

    If they don’t have you, they soon will.

  111. Tropical storm/hurricane Arthur is now on the coast of Georgia and, like General Sherman, is marching north.

    There will be extensive destruction of property, but probably not the freeing of any slaves.

  112. Jace:

    In my ideal world, Bernie Sanders would run for President, and win.

    I send him campaign contributions, and I don’t even live in his state,

  113. from nbcny

    … the National Hurricane Center said early Thursday. Residents of one barrier island in the Outer Banks were ordered to evacuate, as it’s expected to hit the area tonight before making its closest approach to Massachusetts’ Cape Cod, Martha’s Vineyard, and Nantucket Island late Friday or early Saturday, according to The Weather Channel.

    hope our trail buddy osh has battened down the hatches or at least will be happily ensconced in her favorite irish bar for a hurricane party.
    looks like she will get the direct on brunt of it, but hopefully not the fearsome northeast quadrant.

  114. A brilliant way of starting out a day. From yesterday’s PT


  115. from fox

    BOSTON – The annual Boston Pops Fourth of July outdoor concert and fireworks show, one of the city’s signature events, has been moved up a day because of potential heavy rain ahead of Hurricane Arthur.

    The celebration is being rescheduled for Thursday, to what appears to be the better of two potential bad weather days, organizers and public safety officials said Wednesday.


  116. patd,

    Knowing Kathleen… she’ll be fine. I talked to my lobsterman brother last night. He will be hauling lobster traps out of the water today… the surf is suppose to be very rough along with buckets of rain tomorrow.

    Rick and I traditionally spend the 4th at the family camp. We’ve decided to party on Saturday instead.
    At least it looks like the fireworks will go off tonight around here as well as Boston.

  117. Nash 2.5,

    I echo your sentiments.

    BTW… you’ve been on a roll the past couple of days… thanks for the laughs.

  118. Well it’s that wondrous last day of work before the long weekend holiday. The weather forecast for the weekend is almost perfect, and if the forecast is correct for NC, Arthur will miss or at least be gone from the I77 corridor that I will be travelling. There are Mojito ingredients that will be picked up today to address the long delayed unofficial start of summer (the serving to Mrs. P of a proper Mojito). I foresee chicken, ribs and burgers being cooked on the grill, Sousa and fireworks and who knows what else? I may even set out enough time to watch John Adams again. So to all ‘mixers, enjoy the fourth (and to those who are staring Arthur in the face, batten down the hatches and shelter in place).

  119. Nash,

    I hope Sanders runs. I am tired of watching the political pendulum swing to the right. It’s time for a progressive insurgency, and I can think of no one better to lead it than Bernie Sanders.

  120. sturgeone:
    How did the founding fathers feel about marinades?


    They were fine with them provided that they were rum based marinades.

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